Jack Thompson's bill approved
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Perhaps we should stop cracking down on the retailers (since a lot of stores in Canada actually follow the rules for that) and start cracking down on the PARENTS that ignore these warnings, and buy their damn 12 yr old the rated M (or even A-O) games!KeyMaster45 said:
Just a thought...
I hate that JT was behind the law, because we all know he's a giant but it's not a bad idea.
Kids under 18 shouldn't play things like Hitman. Sorry.
The problem is that 9 times out of 10 a parent will buy the game without bothering to look at it...I was working as a clerk at a big retail store *cough* once, and this kid annoyed the living crap out of me (he was being so very rude) so when him and his mom came up to purchase his game (think it was one of the GTA series) I turned it over and handed it to her, all sweetness and light, and said, maybe you should take a second look at this game. She read the back and freaked out. She was all, "I'm not buying this for you!" The look on the kid's face was hilarious. Take that, you little...
*cough* I digress. The POINT of that story was that she was going to buy it without even reading it or knowing what it was. (The kid, by the way, was about 10 or 12 or so)
What I think is sad is that we need laws to help parents parent their children.
So...boooooo to Jack Thompsen, but these laws are a good thing. Sorry kiddos.
Kids under 18 shouldn't play things like Hitman. Sorry.
The problem is that 9 times out of 10 a parent will buy the game without bothering to look at it...I was working as a clerk at a big retail store *cough* once, and this kid annoyed the living crap out of me (he was being so very rude) so when him and his mom came up to purchase his game (think it was one of the GTA series) I turned it over and handed it to her, all sweetness and light, and said, maybe you should take a second look at this game. She read the back and freaked out. She was all, "I'm not buying this for you!" The look on the kid's face was hilarious. Take that, you little...
*cough* I digress. The POINT of that story was that she was going to buy it without even reading it or knowing what it was. (The kid, by the way, was about 10 or 12 or so)
What I think is sad is that we need laws to help parents parent their children.
So...boooooo to Jack Thompsen, but these laws are a good thing. Sorry kiddos.
I honestly don't see what is the problem with that bill - Heck, I don't see why that bill shouldn't be enforced everywhere. I really don't see why M-rated games should be handed down to kids.
And I agree with the fact that kids playing M-rated games online are ruining the experience for the rest of us.
For all I care, ban these kids from Xbox Live until proven old enough to play the damn game.
With this bill, Jack Thompson is doing something right, but for the wrong reasons.
And I agree with the fact that kids playing M-rated games online are ruining the experience for the rest of us.
For all I care, ban these kids from Xbox Live until proven old enough to play the damn game.
With this bill, Jack Thompson is doing something right, but for the wrong reasons.
Same here, its even already standard here in Colorado. I see no problem with this. Now if he made it illegal to sell M-rated games in the state (i.e. you have to buy them online) then I would have a problem.Gxas said:
These jerkoffs need to make up their #^@*ing minds.
That kid who shot his dad's pregnant girlfriend is 11 years old and was charged as an adult. That's fine, I think, but if they're going to do that, then the kids (well... not that kid in particular, he needs some serious medication; but kids in general) should be able to buy whatever game/movie/magazine they want, get a job, vote, join the military, own property, own a business, drive a car, pay taxes, and walk into any bar & buy a bottle of Jack Daniels.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jfUUCNd8ljeuLU4Qr3BF_5pwHXlwD96G89UO4
This law doesn't really bother me (it actually seems reasonable, especially when compared to Jack's other epic fails), it's the godamn double standard that makes me sick.
That kid who shot his dad's pregnant girlfriend is 11 years old and was charged as an adult. That's fine, I think, but if they're going to do that, then the kids (well... not that kid in particular, he needs some serious medication; but kids in general) should be able to buy whatever game/movie/magazine they want, get a job, vote, join the military, own property, own a business, drive a car, pay taxes, and walk into any bar & buy a bottle of Jack Daniels.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jfUUCNd8ljeuLU4Qr3BF_5pwHXlwD96G89UO4
This law doesn't really bother me (it actually seems reasonable, especially when compared to Jack's other epic fails), it's the godamn double standard that makes me sick.
Too be honest, if this bill is "Age ratings on games and movies become mandatory by law" then its ok. In essence, most stores over here already act like that, even though it isn't law. Its more an unofficial rule to avoid any possibility of lawsuit.
However, this may keep Jack Thompson alive, so...
However, this may keep Jack Thompson alive, so...
Hell yes!Darkside360 said:Jack Thompson just needs to die....in a fire
First of all, this is a pointless law. In my experience stores already police their own sales; heck, I've been carded for M-rated games more often than not and I'm well past the 17-year mark. Also it's not kids buying copies of Manhunt on their Visa gold cards, is it? The big source of Mature-rated games for kids is their own parents. So this really doesn't address Jacko's big problem with games; it's not even a stepping stone on the way.
Secondly, similar laws have been ruled unconstitutional many times before. I Am Not A Lawyer, but I doubt this one among all the others will survive.
Thirdly, from the phrasing of the law I can see a possible perverse reaction to it... the law only fines stores for selling to minors if they say they won't sell to minors in print. Unless there's another point in this legal abomination that I missed (and that's likely, as I didn't read it terribly closely) it's going to act as an incentive for stores to withdraw that promise and shovel anything over the counter to anyone who asks.
Fourthly, it's Jacko. You know it's not going to stop there; he's going to try to leverage off of it to something stricter.
And that's as much brainpower as I wish to dedicate today to Florida's Least Wanted. I now go to rinse my cerebral folds in bleach.
-- Steve
Secondly, similar laws have been ruled unconstitutional many times before. I Am Not A Lawyer, but I doubt this one among all the others will survive.
Thirdly, from the phrasing of the law I can see a possible perverse reaction to it... the law only fines stores for selling to minors if they say they won't sell to minors in print. Unless there's another point in this legal abomination that I missed (and that's likely, as I didn't read it terribly closely) it's going to act as an incentive for stores to withdraw that promise and shovel anything over the counter to anyone who asks.
Fourthly, it's Jacko. You know it's not going to stop there; he's going to try to leverage off of it to something stricter.
And that's as much brainpower as I wish to dedicate today to Florida's Least Wanted. I now go to rinse my cerebral folds in bleach.
-- Steve
Why stop there? Its the parents fault that these children exist! Come on...every teenager can save some money he got on his birthday or christmas or sell some of his toys to get the money for a game. You will hardly find some parents that give their kid 50bucks so that they can buy Gears or CoDoliveira8 said:
Unfortunately, not all that true.Why stop there? Its the parents fault that these children exist! Come on...every teenager can save some money he got on his birthday or christmas or sell some of his toys to get the money for a game. You will hardly find some parents that give their kid 50bucks so that they can buy Gears or CoD
I know that kids freak out and scream, but it's a basic issue. Parents SHOULD be protecting their children. The vast majority of R rated games are really and actually fine. A ten year old should be able to play them and not care. HOWEVER there are R rated games that are R rated for a very good reason.
I agree. It SHOULD be the parent's job to check those games. To read the back, for gods sake. To do a little research. Five minutes on a computer and you'll know everything there is to know about the game.
But they don't. That's the point.
I think that's perfectly reasonable. What exactly is everyone getting so riled up about? or is this simply because it's Jack Thompson?
Forgetting that you need to have a credit or debit card to shop online. Mostly owned by over 18s.Lucane said:
I imagine the system will be alot like it is here in the UK. It's all too easy for a parent to buy a game for their child. We'd even ask if an underage child had a parent around that could buy the game for them. Once it's in their hands, it's totally up to them what they do with it. In my opinion, the problem isn't selling games to kids, it's misinformed parents.
At the end of the article: "HB 353 will now move on to the full Utah House for consideration."
It has to be approved by both houses before it will pass. Not to mention the rather bizarre "voluntary" aspect of the law. I get that this potentially solves the free-speech problem but...why would anyone agree to this?
It has to be approved by both houses before it will pass. Not to mention the rather bizarre "voluntary" aspect of the law. I get that this potentially solves the free-speech problem but...why would anyone agree to this?