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Zersy

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First of all this not meant to be Rascist it's a Discussion

Im sure all of you are aware that Japenese seem to be the most
functioning and technological and creative society in all the world
the practically made everything from the walkman which was then copied by amercains and later
turned into a ipod then to the Playstation which was copied again by the american's and was
made into a Xbox but that's not the point

the point is the basically made verything cool think about ? ninja's ,samurai, doors that go "woosh" ,effeicnt cars, game shows that are actually fun to watch and even eating good food of a hot model thats NAKED! they ven made NARUTO and all the other cool animes and manga's like DBZ or Full Metal Alchimest (Don't forget Death Note)

seriously what makes them so Dam good at everything ?

you gotta admit without japenese people a whole lot of things wouldn't be invented

but i wanna know what makes them so unique because their still human

(Maybe it's all the fish they eat)
 

ZeroMachine

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It's just the different society. Asking why they're different is asking why people in northern USA are less tan than people in southern USA. Not saying that to sound like a dick, that's really just it. Different society, different ideas, different skills.

Not saying that takes away from the awesomeness of some of those things you mentioned =P
 

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From what I can tell, the Japanese have some kind of amazing SUPER DRUG, that allows them to create all that awesome stuff.

Or maybe they're just naturally awesome. Who knows?
 

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Because the Japanese are great at everything.

The fact is, the Japanese were extremely brutal and unforgiving in the Second World War, and were before so. They were widely known for utilising highly unorthodox torture techniques, and were even the last government to formally comission crucifixion as a punishment. Of course it's true that they have invented a great many things (not nearly as many as the Chinese or, in fact, the British I might add), but they have also had their fair share of humiliation, defeat and moments of evil intent.
 

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curlycrouton said:


Because the Japanese are great at everything.

The fact is, the Japanese were extremely brutal and unforgiving in the Second World War, and were before so. They were widely known for utilising highly unorthodox torture techniques, and were even the last government to formally comission crucifixion as a punishment. Of course it's true that they have invented a great many things (not nearly as many as the Chinese or, in fact, the British I might add), but they have also had their fair share of humiliation, defeat and moments of evil intent.
Its also interesting to note that they forced pows into working for their factories owned by Japanese companies, many still around today (with no reparations in sight).
 

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curlycrouton said:


Because the Japanese are great at everything.

The fact is, the Japanese were extremely brutal and unforgiving in the Second World War, and were before so. They were widely known for utilising highly unorthodox torture techniques, and were even the last government to formally comission crucifixion as a punishment. Of course it's true that they have invented a great many things (not nearly as many as the Chinese or, in fact, the British I might add), but they have also had their fair share of humiliation, defeat and moments of evil intent.
and for all their awesomness, samuarais are hell-a cool, they didn't make this


 

Zersy

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curlycrouton said:


Because the Japanese are great at everything.

The fact is, the Japanese were extremely brutal and unforgiving in the Second World War, and were before so. They were widely known for utilising highly unorthodox torture techniques, and were even the last government to formally comission crucifixion as a punishment. Of course it's true that they have invented a great many things (not nearly as many as the Chinese or, in fact, the British I might add), but they have also had their fair share of humiliation, defeat and moments of evil intent.
your right from your post i was reminded how brutal they were in the war

DAM that just makes them more awesome and unique
 

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UNKNOWNINCOGNITO said:
First of all this not meant to be Rascist it's a Discussion

Im sure all of you are aware that Japenese seem to be the most
functioning and technological and creative society in all the world
the practically made everything from the walkman which was then copied by amercains and later
turned into a ipod then to the Playstation which was copied again by the american's and was
made into a Xbox but that's not the point

the point is the basically made verything cool think about ? ninja's ,samurai, doors that go "woosh" ,effeicnt cars, game shows that are actually fun to watch and even eating good food of a hot model thats NAKED!

seriously what makes them so Dam good at everything ?

you gotta admit without japenese people a whole lot of things wouldn't be invented

but i wanna know what makes them so unique because their still human

(Maybe it's all the fish they eat)
What you are doing here is called cultural ideation, i.e. Where as traditional racism looks to another culture or race and says how hopeless and stupid they are, in this case you've done the exact inverse and built them up. It is a kind of racism because it shows no true knowledge or understanding of the culture and often feeds stereotypes and misinformation (those Japanese sure are good with computers, we should team them up with the financially astute Jews to make the world a better place)

If you want to look at technological development, up until about the mid nineties Japan was better known for it's constant influx of cheap-ass stuff that was more inclined to break than save you any money. A lot of primary engineering concepts that later spawned into major industry which Japan is known for came from Europe and America (Automotives, film and animation, video games... well computer tech in general is primarily a product of American engineering) But this is because of the Period of Japanese isolation up to the Meiji period that ultimately required them to advance technology by a couple of hundred years to catch up with the rest of the world.

And the idea that a walk-man translates to an iPod (which normalized the mp3 file format that wasn't really driven by Japanese technical development) is reaching.

You would have been better off using text messaging as an example of Japanese innovation, texting being a direct result of Japan's "girl / pager revolution" in which Japanese school girls were using pager tech as a means of elaborate communication, basically because of a cultural push to be polite (i.e. quiet) in public settings.

Pick up a book and don't start threads that demonstrate your Asian envy (it's kind of sad)
 

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rottenbutter said:
From what I can tell, the Japanese have some kind of amazing SUPER DRUG, that allows them to create all that awesome stuff.
I have a feeling it's something to do with the radiation still being admitted from the two bombs, like spider man radiation=awesome results....'cept for the the death and carcinogenic affects.
can't really say much for their TV though I hate animé and I remember on channel four I saw this programme about the most controversial programmes in the world and they reserved Japan for last. there was one which involved a man having anal sex with a woman and then the trick at the end was he's been filmed and the girl was actually a guy, in a sort of Punk'd fashion. I'm still pretty sure to this day that I nodded off and dreamt that but friends told me they also saw that.
 

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Right now, in a Japanese forum, people are probably asking the same question about Caucasians. "How did this Cliffy B fellow come up with a chainsaw gun??? GENIUS."

Although I guess they sorta already had a precursor idea with the sword-gun thing from Final Fantasy 8 and that Machine Girl movie.
 

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UNKNOWNINCOGNITO said:
curlycrouton said:


Because the Japanese are great at everything.

The fact is, the Japanese were extremely brutal and unforgiving in the Second World War, and were before so. They were widely known for utilising highly unorthodox torture techniques, and were even the last government to formally comission crucifixion as a punishment. Of course it's true that they have invented a great many things (not nearly as many as the Chinese or, in fact, the British I might add), but they have also had their fair share of humiliation, defeat and moments of evil intent.
your right from your post i was reminded how brutal they were in the war

DAM that just makes them more awesome and unique
How did this turn into a discussion about WWII?
I thought we got tired of these years ago!
 

Ezekel

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I think you like them a little too much. Not to say that Japan isn't as good as everywhere else but they are certainly not in any way superior to anywhere else. Sony is a good company, but so is Microsoft, and Macintosh.

Also look up the Stereo bolt, which was a similar invention that can do the same thing the Walkman can do which was actually made before it by a German inventor, but he didn't get any financial backing. Atari made the first home console, which was copied by Nintendo. IPod is better than Walkman MP3 players, or is in my opinion so I don't see how they copied them. If you mean a similar product then yes, but everybody in the business world does that.

Anime is a style, it is no better than any other style. Beside Pinky and the Brain and Animaniacs own everything ever created. I find most Japanese game shows stupid, and much prefer American Gladiator. Might just be because I have no idea what they are saying.

They are not good at everything. They are good at alot of things, but then so is everyone else.
 

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The main difference in Japanese culture I believe is the freedom. I mean seriously... they do EVERYTHING, from things that we find amazing to absolutely repulsive and unlike most countries, they use everything they make. Like the new cell phone instead of credit card thing, it would take us ages to start using the thing and even then people would create theories why it shouldn't be used and they just use it... Hell they don't even let people have guns, now that's a thing I praise.
 

Ronwue

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I laughed aloud when I saw the title of this thread. Now when I see where the discussion is going, I can tell that probably I'll learn a thing or two.
 

Fire Daemon

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This, pretty much. It's late and I don't feel like making a long and winded post so I'll just quote mark_n_b here and say this so I can show how I agree completely with what he's saying.

Know what you're talking about before you talk about it.

This thread is walking on a razors edge between racism and culture worshiping. Either way the ignorance shows.
 

Frank_Sinatra_

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A.) Damn is spelt with a "n" at the end if you are trying to swear.
B.) The Japs are ridiculously awesome because of the radiation we blasted them with in WW2.
C.) Just kidding they are good at that kind of thing because (in my opinion) they have to step up and bring their family honor.
 

Captain Wes

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Jursa said:
The main difference in Japanese culture I believe is the freedom.
Really!? Do you know anything about Japan? I don't mean to be an ass (maybe a little) but seriously.
 

Fraught

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The Japanese also have a long history of being the most fuckin' wierd people in the world.

And the Playstation was copied by the Xbox? I mean, are you for real?

But yeah, technologically they're advanced and all.

Ezekel said:
IPod is better than Walkman MP3 players, or is in my opinion so I don't see how they copied them.
That mostly comes from the fact that it's an iPod.

Really, go see some of the Walkmans. I have a Walkman that's battery lasts up to 50 hours of playtime, and it has 10 out of 10 reviews always every place that makes reviews about MP3s.
The iPod is just a popular, pointless device.
 

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curlycrouton said:


Because the Japanese are great at everything.

The fact is, the Japanese were extremely brutal and unforgiving in the Second World War, and were before so. They were widely known for utilising highly unorthodox torture techniques, and were even the last government to formally comission crucifixion as a punishment. Of course it's true that they have invented a great many things (not nearly as many as the Chinese or, in fact, the British I might add), but they have also had their fair share of humiliation, defeat and moments of evil intent.
You eh, do realize we're talking about modern Japanese people, right?

And in their defense, we've all had our fair share of dark days. Germany and Italy were in the same boat as the Japanese during WWII, and where they had that, all of Europe had the Crusades. The Spanish had the Inquisition. The French had the Reign of Terror. We've had the Civil War and Vietnam (a situation witch the Japanese respectfully declined to jump in to), to say nothing of Iraq.

Also keep in mind that part of their Xenophobia stemmed from the early Tokugawa Shogunate (If I recall correctly, may have been Meiji Era), where they outlawed Christianity because of missionaries uprooting their traditions and values. At that point, only the Dutch were allowed to enter, and the Japanese had built a small island specifically for trade with them. (My world history may be a little shakey, but I don't recall any other artificial landmasses built around 1641. Tenochtitlan notwithstanding.) Point being, they weren't the only dicks of the world, and it all started for a fairly good reason, albeit a reason that was twisted and warped into WWII.

Back on topic, the OP is wrong in a sense. The Japanese have actually invented very little, as their resources simply don't allow for it. What the Japanese excel at is taking and already-made technology and bettering it, see castles, robotics, computers, and the automobile. This probably stems from their culture and work ethic, which since the early days has taught them to perfect the profession they choose.

On a more cultural note, the relaxed, kooky anime and pop-culture that most foreigners see is only one side of the coin. Once again, their tradition asks for a great deal of work ethic, which requires discipline. Lots of discipline. However, their serious side is counter-balanced with their genuinely awesome and quirky sub-nature. True, things like furries and CP have gotten far more widespread because of them, but it's still beside the point.

Put short, the modern Japanese (and most likely the ancient ones as well) are a people of extremes. Hard at work one moment, laughing at a trick port-a-potty TV show the next. (No, I'm not making that up.)