The shield is even getting Portal, which is pretty insane for a mobile device.Jimothy Sterling said:I have seen that list. That says nothing about audience adoption, only games coming out. The Wii U had plenty of launch support, and the Nvidia Shield has a pretty damn big library. Still niche products for specific audiences.MinionJoe said:RE: A cute little niche thing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_Oculus_Rift_support
Jim, your autobiography should be titled "The Audacity of Common Sense". Those points are just too logical and obvious when stated, thank God for you.Jimothy Sterling said:It could have been worse. VR was probably destined to be a niche anyway. Wait and see.
Agayek said:Which is very true, it really isn't (unless the technology changes dramatically before it's released).Jimothy Sterling said:What? No. Niche products are GOOD. I was not insulting OR. Just saying it was not "The Future" Zuckerbergs hopes it'll be.
What is the future is Miniature Fantasy Jim Sterling IMO. No real idea why, but 300,000:1 odds it will take the world by storm.[
You are in no way wrong; I have moneys and I would Like a miniature Fantasy Jim Sterling Talking Plushie. Shut up and take my Moneys!
The thing about VR catered as a specific niche market product is that eventually it is going to go away, or at least it will never go anywhere interesting. It is the very definition of a novelty luxury good. It really only exists as a cool toy for tech heads. And this isn't really a problem, if you don't think VR tech has any real potential. If it is just a cool gadget and that is all it ever can be then appealing only to the niche market that wants that gadget is perfectly fine, and is in fact a good thing. I like niche products. I own many niche products.MinionJoe said:Er... well... yes, of course that's entirely true. But how's Facebook getting ownership of Oculus VR hardware the lesser of all evils?Jimothy Sterling said:What? No. Niche products are GOOD. I was not insulting OR. Just saying it was not "The Future" Zuckerbergs hopes it'll be.
I agree that a game company getting a hold of it would have been far, far worse. Same with Microsoft/Sony. They're not interested in catering to niche markets. But neither is Facebook.
So a product that is designed from the ground-up for a niche market that is then bought out and converted for a wider audience isn't going to be good for that niche market. No matter who buys it.
Sure, maybe there's still some hope for the OR under Facebook that doesn't exist with other companies. I mean, the PS4 has root-level Facebook integration, and people can still play games without having to link a Facebook account. I just hope that remains true for the Rift. And it's possible the hardware will remain unlocked enough to work with third-party programs. Personally, I was really looking forward to trying it out with Euro Truck Simulator 2 (about as niche as one can get).
But as a specialized, niche-market product, the Oculus system is very likely dead. Especially if other on-board developers pull out as Mojang has already done.
Agreed. Even if things don't go crazy with FB integration, I can't find it inside myself to ever say this whole episode has been a good thing for those who put their time and money into making Oculus possible.Scrumpmonkey said:Still, i think Facebook's core philosophies, lack of regard for users and business practices are wholly abhorrent.