Jimquisition: To Play The Villain

[Muspelheim]

*Swirls limoncello around a glass*

Hmm... Most delightful...

You have a divine talent in reading erotica, Jim. Please, use it again, sometime. I am... Most eager to hear more.

Thank God for Jim.


More on topic, I rather like taking on a more unclear role between villain and hero. Like, either someone with villainous plans being rather kind and helpful to people to gain trust and recognition, or someone working as a force for good by rather unwholesome methods.

 

[Arqus_Zed]

Same here, I felt genuinely disturbed by some of the actions the main characters do. But at the same time, it intrigues me, because their morality is so radically different from what I'm used to and because of that, you can never really tell what is going to happen next - how low will they go?

I mean, if movies, books and plays can get away with it, why not games?

Also, I nearly died at the end. Seriously Jim, never change.

 

[Darth_Payn]

Well, now I have 1 more thing to expect the next time I'm asked to verify my age. I had to mute the last 30 seconds before I felt like vomiting.
As for playing villains, I don't mind it depending on presentation. I'm going to the dark-side in STAR WARS: The Old Republic because, hey, I'm a Sith Lord and those guys kick ass, yet I'm also like a cool Big Brother to my crew. I like the idea of playing Evil Genius (while actually playing it gets hair-pullingly frustrating at times) because I'm a charismatic Bond villain building a lair with minions! I blame the push towards "realism", because the more realistic the games we play get, the less comfortable we are with playing the kind of unrepentant lunatic who could exist in the real world (a.k.a. the thing we turn on our gaming system of choice to ESCAPE from).

 

[Goliath100]

b) The fact is that the villains in GTAV aren't just straight up murderous fantasy figures. They're actual characters with motivations and feelings, regardless of the fact that they're irredemably twisted. So what you say doesn't really hold water at all.

I was talking about the protagonists, not the antagonists.

 

[Hawk eye1466]

That's really my feelings on the subject too, I mean I saw the escapists review and I was a little worried I'd hate the characters as much as Niko annoyed me near the end because as fun as parts of GTA 4 were it just ended so depressing. But I just like villains a lot it's fun to be the good guy but Jim's right being the evil bastard that does whatever they like is just great, I played each of the protagonists a little differently so it wouldn't seem like they'd all gone kill crazy but honestly I had a lot of fun playing as Trevor and Michael, a little less as Franklin only because he's supposed to be the moral compass sort of but he was fun too.

I am glad they decided to end the game on a much lighter tone than the last one it fits with the location in GTA 4 yeah it's new york no one's expecting a ride into the sunset and it ended about as happy as you'd expect from a city that's portrayed that dark and gritty, 5 on the other hand is in a sunsoaked town if it ended badly I'd have been pissed because throughout most of the game I was just smiling and enjoying the mayhem everyone was creating and it wasn't in a sadistic way most of the time it was just their professionals doing their job and dammit it was exciting to do that.

Bottom line Jim thanks for putting into words what I was having a hard time with, and thanks for reading gay furry porn as my roommate walked in I needed that.

 

[Psychobabble]

I totally agree that anti-heroes and villains can be amazingly deep and interesting characters in films, books, and video games. I disagree that the characters in GTA 5 are either deep or interesting. To me they are shallow cliche unlikeable dicks. To each their own I guess.

 

[kickyourass]

I disagree, but only slightly, I personally have no problem playing anti-heroes or even outright villains, some of my favorite characters are the villains, but if I'm supposed to be playing said villain, I would rather like to have a good reason for the terrible things they do. Not morally good reasons, that would make the point entirely moot, but if my morally repugnant protagonist is doing morally repugnant things, just because, that's not very satisfying.

That's why I love Saints Row 2, You do some absolutely terrible things to people in that game, and you don't have a single morally good reason for doing almost any of it. But the reasons that you do them all make some kind of sense that most people can understand even if they're repulsed by it. The main complaint I heard about GTA V is that you aren't given any such reasons for why the three terrible people you're playing as do such terrible things, and they just come off as shallow bastards and I can understand not liking that.

I'm still going to play it and form my own opinion of it, but that's the complaint that was made.

 

[AntiChrist]

As soon as I saw the age verification I thought to myself: "Dear God, what sort of perversive filth has Sterling included in his video this time?"

You never seize to amaze me, you magnificent, dirty bastard.

 

[XDravond]

[sub]Kinda hoping for pics[/sub]

I've never been able to wrap my heart around games with an indecisive moral slider. If I'm gonna be the villain, than I better be able to partake in some villainous hijinks! Any game worth its salt in portraying antiheroes (Disgaea lovelove) is enough for me, but rare is the game where I truly enjoy my adventure with/as the bad guy. Couldn't hurt to have more games like that.

(well I'm sure you can google "school daze furry" if you now happen to be interested, I'm sure there's a forum for you there.... I think I will skip that though...)

I don't find GTA interesting yet, much because I haven't sat down and played it for more than a few minutes to try it out but I do see the appeal of playing a villain every now and then to get a break from "humanity's last hope"...

Now let's go and find people to chock with showing the last min or so...on loud volume.. Maybe at work... hehe... Gay furry porn must be hard to top, wonder what people will send "god-like" Jim next to show their appreciation...

 

[Muspelheim]

[sub]Kinda hoping for pics[/sub]

I've never been able to wrap my heart around games with an indecisive moral slider. If I'm gonna be the villain, than I better be able to partake in some villainous hijinks! Any game worth its salt in portraying antiheroes (Disgaea lovelove) is enough for me, but rare is the game where I truly enjoy my adventure with/as the bad guy. Couldn't hurt to have more games like that.

(well I'm sure you can google "school daze furry" if you now happen to be interested, I'm sure there's a forum for you there.... I think I will skip that though...)

I don't find GTA interesting yet, much because I haven't sat down and played it for more than a few minutes to try it out but I do see the appeal of playing a villain every now and then to get a break from "humanity's last hope"...

Now let's go and find people to chock with showing the last min or so...on loud volume.. Maybe at work... hehe... Gay furry porn must be hard to top, wonder what people will send "god-like" Jim next to show their appreciation...

Well, it'd loose all of the magic without Jim doing the presentation. It's like the little man in a straw hat at a carneval, it's not nearly the same without the build-up.

I'm going to keep my fingers crossed for a christmas-themed version when that time o' the year is coming. That'd be a lovely moment!

[sub]Even if I must write it myself...[/sub]

Captcha: bad books. Yes, as if you were any better, Captcha, I know what you're like.

 

[loa]

There's stories in that mag?
How boring. That didn't even sound furry, no squidmen with huge, throbbing tentacles, no spider people shooting their hot, pulsating egg load into eyesockets, no nothing.

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

A good rebuttal to Tito I must admit but I'm still on the side of the argument where I want to do horrible things in game... but have a reason beside my own characters written psychopathy.

Also we need to send Jim more things. MORE THINGS!

 

[Highlandheadbanger]

I guess I can see Jim's point about wanting to play someone irredeemably bad, I don't personally have a desire to explore real evil though and that's what made me skip on Saint's Row 2 and GTA5.

I work with politicians on a near daily basis in a highly corrupt state. Evil and irredeemable is something of a norm for me, not something I want in my escapism.

 

[Adultism]

I'm glad other people enjoy the villains as much as I do. I love a good hero, but a good villain makes the game amazing. Especially if you get to play as one, or three with the new GTA. Trevor is amazing and makes you feel like you are playing a psycho.

EDIT: I was saying EXACTLY! over and over during this video.

 

[Alien1375]

So playing a psychopath torturing a man by pulling his teeth out and waterboarding him is fun, but a game where you rape a woman is bad mmmkay?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/5972-Rape-vs-Murder

Hypocrite much? mmmmmmhhhhhmmmmmmhhhh.....

 

[webkilla]

Who on earth sent Jim School Daze?

It is some of the most blandfurry porn you can get. Mind you, its not Associated Student Bodies (but I consider that almost more parody than real porn) - but still

If it doesn't involve stuff that'd probably get you instantly perma-banned from this forum, why even bother sending it to Jim - he's clearly made of sterner stuff