Jimquisition: To Play The Villain

[Terminate421]

I'd kill just to know who sent him Gay Furry Porn?

Not because I want it, but because I want to know why he'd do it. Do they love him so much they think he'll like it? Or do they hate him so much he'd be despised about it.

 

[Seracen]

I was wondering about the age gate until the last 15 seconds, haha...

TROLOLOLOLOL

I will posit that it's interesting to play the bad guy. But I will also posit that the best baddies are those we can empathize, if not sympathize with. Conversely, it would also be fun to play over the top villains.

Not having ever gotten into GTA (never cared much for the stories), I can't speak to those games. However, I imagine a compelling story would allow me to get over the hump of playing an atrocious human being.

 

[tzimize]

What can we possibly send him (that's legal) that tops that!? I don't even know.

You've broken me, Jim! Completely and utterly!

Too fucking funny.

I think we should all buy Jim a seperate piece of a sex dungeon and send it to him.

Huh, wonder why there was a age ga- *Jim proceeds to read furry porn.*


[HEADING=2]Welp.

That's enough internet for today.[/HEADING]

I bet Amaterasu was into it.

OT: Villians are fun but i'm abit of an emotional pussy so I find it hard to really get into it when I play, even in Overlord.

I couldn't even kill horses in RedDead.

Hah! Everything in this post is funny! ^^

OT: Playing a bad guy can be cool as long as they're not stupid. Stupid bad guys are even worse than stupid good guys.

I hated GTA IV, almost as much as I hated GTA SA. I barf at the whole "gangsta" culture, and cant even like it when its ridiculed. Nico belic was just dull and the music was horrible. GTA Vice City is where it at.

I might give GTA V a try eventually, but I'm in no rush. Where is RDR 2 Rockstar? Where is it? Hm?! WHY ARENT YOU MAKING THAT?!

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

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He wasn't complaining about GTA 5. He says several times he likes playing the villain.

Watch the video before whining about it perhaps.

He said he hates the characters but that's what makes playing it all the more compelling. Maybe don't cast yourself as the authority on who is allowed to play which games.

Nooooo...

what he said was these people were villains that he not only didn't like, but didn't like what they were doing. Kane and Lynch for example. Didn't like the concept of shooting up innocents for the sake of it. However, by definition, playing the game requires you to participate in the story and that action. A subtle form culpability, by the way. Not in the Kane murdered someone therefore you are a murderer way, but in the idea that by buying the game and playing it, you can't distance yourself from saying you support it. Saying you don't like what the characters are doing WHILE doing it sounds weak.
"Oh I'm sorry, the game made me shoot you. If I had a choice, I wouldn't but its the plot so oh well."

That's my point. If you find the characters so repugnant that the very idea of them winning is sickening but then you play through the game, which requires you leading the characters to victory...well guess who doesn't get to claim neutrality?

Hint: You.

 

[Orekoya]

Gay furry porn

Spoiler: Yep, gay furry porn.

Now if it was a gay furry porn between Starfox and Sly Cooper, or two pokemon (there are doujins for that), that would have been fantastic! Jim is a video game journalist after all, at least give him something he can proudly display with his E3 swag.

That's kinda a problem because this is a published graphic novel for sale that someone sent him and comics that contain copyrighted characters don't tend to be published for sale because of legalities.

 

[Rad Party God]

Having recently bought Dungeon Keeper II and playing The Nameless Mod with the "evil" side (hilarious BTW), I can't agree more with you Jim. I like to play as the good guy as much as the next person, but when a game is completely made around playing the bad guy (not 2 different paths like most games like to do nowadays), I'm instantly hooked.

 

[Alcom1]

"I relaxed and let the slimey cum pool i-"

NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE.
NOOOOOOPE.

 

[ninjaRiv]

I still don't see why people think the protagonists in GTA V are that bad. I haven't finished it yet, so maybe they do something a lot worse at the end? or is it just the mean old torture scene that makes them so terrible? I'm not saying they're nice guys, not at all. I just don't understand why people think they're that evil.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

And here I was thinking that the age verification thing was for the torture scene. Instead we got gay furry porn.

After hearing that I think I'd much prefer to watch the torture scene, but maybe I'm just broken. Or something's wrong with me. I dunno.

Anyways, I don't mind playing as villains if it's done right. I'm not a fan of GTA, that's more of a personal preference more than anything else, but I can see how people flock to the game to be a total bastard. I think it all depends on the context for me and if it makes sense, and being a total bastard just for the sake of it with no meaning is more off putting to me more than anything else.

 

[xPixelatedx]

That's kinda a problem because this is a published graphic novel for sale that someone sent him and comics that contain copyrighted characters don't tend to be published for sale because of legalities.

I was under the impression you could buy henti books of copyrighted characters. I've seen hundreds of them for everything pertaining to anime, video games, etc. When these things are posted online, they are usually labeled as 'scans' from their respective books as well, and they certainly look like they've been scanned from a book. That said, I don't know if the people making these should be making them, nor will I agree/disagree with the practice. Just saying they exist.

 

[DeadlyYellow]

Huh, wonder why there was an age ga- *Jim proceeds to read furry porn.*

....Yeah.

Though somehow it was still less disturbing than his poem about miltank.

 

[soulfire130]

Oh crap. what gay furry porn was he sent? O_O

*Sees it School Daze*

Oh that. Could have been worse. *shrugs*

 

[Vale]

I love Niko to bits. Even though his name is as unsubtle as it gets. "Niko" sounds Eastern European, but is not an actual Serbian name. It comes from "Nikovo", Russian (Niko is a Serbian, mind) for "Nobody". "Bellic", is from bellicose, or just "war" (Latin: Bellum, i think) in general. Nobody from the War. That's him. That's a miserable, arguably suicidal, crestfallen, self-loathing, fatalistic, nihilistic, but noble cynic. Noble, in that he feels obligated to protect the very few people he finds himself drawn to. It's like some murderous but not-quite-completely-evil revenant of some horrifying event (Yugoslav Wars).
Problems are:
1. There's nowhere for him to go, no self-betterment possible, no dream to struggle towards, no victory to achieve. He acknowledges as much himself. His story as a human being ended with one of the most inhuman conflicts of the 20th century.
2. He's a genuinely awful person in most of the ways that count, but he is definitely not the type fit as an open-world crime game protagonist. He's far, FAR too reserved for that. He may kill you if given a reason (money being a good enough one, usually), but he's not going to just flip out and initiate Operation Blaze of Glory.
Thus, GTA IV had a decent-ish story with a decently written (I thought) protagonist, and was also incredibly jarring.
Oh yeah and BIG AMERICAN TITTAIS gets annoying after a while.
Driving without mods was shit too.
Maybe it was just not a great game.

 

[Fiairflair]

GTA is dystopian. In gaming and literary senses, I quite like some dystopian worlds: They are interesting and thought-provoking, and the notion of playing the bad guy is best realised in such an environment. But this collection of all the worst parts of American society (exaggerated to the point of non-semblance to the original; I'm not having a go at America here) has never presented a character compelling enough or gameplay fun enough to hook me.
I don't believe for a second that these games influence real life violence, or that playing the villian in games is connected to wrong behaviour. But I just don't want to explore GTA's crude, socially ugly worlds. They are intended to be ugly: it isn't that way by accident. Guns, drugs and crime lack any appeal in this context. Vice City came the closest to providing a compelling narrative, with a few characters that I enjoyed listening to. But that is part of the problem.

Listening to dull, lifeless dialog from lowlife characters, separated in equal measures by running/driving to the next point, clumsy shooting and aimless urban wandering is not fun for me.

That said, if there is something new and amazingly different with this new one then I'd love to hear about it. The heists didn't look too bad.

 

[Thanatos2k]

So playing a psychopath torturing a man by pulling his teeth out and waterboarding him is fun, but a game where you rape a woman is bad mmmkay?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/5972-Rape-vs-Murder

Hypocrite much? mmmmmmhhhhhmmmmmmhhhh.....

I was hoping someone would point this out. Would Jim really be so eager to play as a "reprehensible" villain who was also a rapist? I mean, that's something criminal scumbags do in real life. Happens a lot.

Still excited to play as the villain?

 

[leviadragon99]

Mm, personally I prefer to run paragon, while I do find villains fascinating and many of them quite endearing in a twisted kind of way, they're not the kind of individuals I want to BE, and that sense of discomfort is enough that I just can't even get into the role on the level you're talking about.

 

[TakeyB0y2]

The second I read the title of the book you pulled up in the beginning, School Daze, I literally spit my drink out.

"I won't show you the pictures inside, they're a bit... Salty for the children"... Indeed, you could even say they're quite Sea Salty...

...

Engh... ._.

 

[evilcorgi]

I'm not sure what's worse, the fact that I recognised that comic the moment he held it up, and can name the main character and the author's screen name, or the fact that he has a solid copy that I didn't know existed.

 

[Tanakh]

Good vid Jim. What I have found interesting in the wake of GTA V is how invested people are having the idea that they are good.

Personally I am more for interesting stuff that allows me to grow and learn, experiment and know the world a bit more. Don't remember the last time I did something because it was the right thing.

I actually have a hard time playing a bad guy. I don't know why, I know these are virtual worlds, no one really cares what I do in this world.

Brain is not that good at differentiating virtual from real. Let me frame that, your brain does know with their higher functions, but not the lower more instinctual ones; that is why you can see people crying when a celebrity dies even though they never met and rightfully they shouldn't give a crap about them, but the brain has seen the celebrity enough to form an emotional connection. Fun trivia, did you knew your brain is active in almost the same areas when you jack off to something or have sex with someone?

 

[evilcorgi]

Indeed, you could even say they're quite Sea Salty...

I'm watching you.