HellsingerAngel said:
No one did say it. I felt it was implied and was asking you.
It was not implied. As such, you distorted my statement. That's the strawman fallacy, even if not as polarising as your Wikipedia example. Sorry honey.
Accusing me of confirmation bias would be saying that that statement is opinion driven, which everything is always going to have an opinion.
Wow. that's kinda false on every level. Confirmation bias isn't an issue of "opinion," strictly speaking, and not everything is opinion driven. One could go by statistics, for example. You know, data. Data is rarely opinion.
Not sufficiently, no. I'd also care for you not to be snarky about it.
Honey, that wasn't snark. When I'm being snarky, you'll know it. I was asking a question. For someone who keeps saying "I was asking a question" you might want to try practicing what you're preachin'.
You do know that has something to do with parity of your dollar, that inflation still exists, right,
Except you implied correlation where this does not.
that some genres of books don't take exactly 400 pages to all the information inside a book and may go under or over?
Which is nice, but those books existed before, so it's completely irrelevant.
Even ignoring all that, has the quality of books gone down? Since when has something to be considered art been about quantity? That's sort of what we argue with games, no? That the quality of a game can sometimes outweigh the quantity presented?
You're trying to shift the goalposts. It's cute, but let's try and stick with the objective things that we were actually discussing. Printing costs are increasing, so it's costing more to put out books.
"X pages should always equal X dollars" would be silly.
It would be. Thankfully, nobody's saying that.
No, it's not.
Care to enlighten me with cost figures
So you can dismiss them? Hmm. Seems pointless.
Exactly as you put it. Since they've entered the market, as in, they had no infrastructure to begin with in these areas.
Since meaning "after," not "as."
Buyt I love how you're trying to play both sides. "Prices haven't gone up, but no surprise if they have, because of reasons that don't exist and aren't true!"
Except...
Current prices for The Hunger Games
eBooks.com - 21.95
booksonboard - $16.03
Barnes & Noble - $8.99
Kobo - $7.99
Sony - $5.00
Amazon - $5.00
Yes, ONE BOOK certainly proves things wrong. Except you can find single books where the Kindle price is higher than the paperback price. Oh, maybe that's why dealing with averages and statistics are a better model than "I saw a book that was cheaper, that means there's no trend."
I have a black friend, after all.
Well, no, it's impossible for me to prove that they're using cost to fund their infrastructure. At least I admit it.
Then don't make the statement. If you demand proof when others' talk, don't make a statement and then later pull back.
Then again, I can prove that prices are overall lower at larger eBook companies, just not that all that money they aren't taking is going to infrastructure.
In one case.
I think my last post even mentioned there are exceptions.
I'm sure if you continue to look, you will offer up another demonstration of confirmation bias. You will look specifically for examples where the book is significantly cheaper.
Now, here's an interesting phenomenon: Publisher-set prices. And here's where the prices really go up. The Dresden Files series, for example, was between 5 and 6 bucks for all but the newest books until publishers started setting the prices. The publishers do not have to worry about infrastructure, BTW, since that's all on Amazon's end. All the old Dresden Files books have been raised to ten bucks, in-line with the physical books.
"But Zachary," I hear you say, "that's just an exception, lol your a hypocrite." Well, no. The "Price set by publisher" thing is incredibly common.
Incidentally, when I bough the Dresden Files paperbacks, they were 7-8 bucks new, list price. This was several years ago, when they were new. So while I'm sure you think inflation was significant enough to raise it three bucks (almost half again) asking price, older works tend to depreciate, even with inflation. This is not the only example, but it is the easiest (since I was already looking it up).
Wow. Two birds with one stone. COOL.
Didn't you just complain that the pricing for eBooks has shot up and that pricing only used to be fair before the large companies got a good hold on the market, even though their prices are better? Hypocrisy indeed.
Mmm...Lying. I like it.
I suppose that's just bias on my part.
Kinda like your whole argument.
Then again, I don't see many people calling movie-goers or music enthusiast self-entitled and whiny.
Which is just bias on your part.
rather than spit acid at each other.
Ironically, implying that both parties are doing it. And yet, you take parting shots even as you say you're done and try and pretend to be above it.
But yes, complain about my conduct. Throw stones from that glass house.
