Jimquisition: Why Do People Hate EA?
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Yeah, there's a reason that I haven't bought anything on Origin. I only own three EA-published games; two were bought on Steam sales, and one was bought used for the PS2, well after the PS3 was released.
If EA wants more of my money, they should stop trying to treat me as a pirate the moment I buy their game, and their systems should work properly. After I bought the new NFS: Hot Pursuit on Steam, I got an online keycode. When I entered the code in, the game told me the code was already in use. It took a half hour with their online customer service to get that fixed. This is my favorite racing game, EA, I want people to play against! Stop scaring them off!
(I would like a Gravity Rush shirt please. Also Jim is sexy.)
If EA wants more of my money, they should stop trying to treat me as a pirate the moment I buy their game, and their systems should work properly. After I bought the new NFS: Hot Pursuit on Steam, I got an online keycode. When I entered the code in, the game told me the code was already in use. It took a half hour with their online customer service to get that fixed. This is my favorite racing game, EA, I want people to play against! Stop scaring them off!
(I would like a Gravity Rush shirt please. Also Jim is sexy.)
Once upon a time, EA put out Dead Space, a creepy and very fun Action-Survival-Horror-Sci-fi game and Mirror's Edge, a very different, colorful game that emphasized creative movement and parkour more than combat. They seemed to be trying to become something different and I loved them for it.
Now, even though I want to like them, since they do own companies that put out games I like, I just can't anymore. When Wal-Mart, FUCKING WAL-MART, is considered less evil than you, you have FAILED at being human beings. It's just so sad.
And is it just me, or was Jim really working that black coat today. Don't know what, but there's just something about him that just turned me on this video. Mmm. Keep it up, Jim.
(by the way I'd like the T-shirt)
Now, even though I want to like them, since they do own companies that put out games I like, I just can't anymore. When Wal-Mart, FUCKING WAL-MART, is considered less evil than you, you have FAILED at being human beings. It's just so sad.
And is it just me, or was Jim really working that black coat today. Don't know what, but there's just something about him that just turned me on this video. Mmm. Keep it up, Jim.
(by the way I'd like the T-shirt)
Dead Space 3 must sell 5 million? It must have a cover system? It must.....be made for a broader audience?
WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK?!!?!?!?
WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK?!!?!?!?
You're going to find it hard to maintain the smug misanthrope pretense if you keep giving me this kind of warm, sunny glow, Jim.
I had two particular insights in the wake of IGN's article.
One: the most sharp, vivid, and painful difference between Origin and Steam can be summed up thusly: because of Steam, I've bought and played games I otherwise wouldn't have (Lone Survivor, The Binding of Isaac, Magicka, and even big-name titles like Warhammer 40K Space Marine and Resident Evil 5.) Because of Origin, I haven't played games I otherwise definitely would have (most notably, Mass Effect 3.)
Two: The "Of course, they're a business, they're in business to make money" argument is incredibly f@#%ed up. It's cart-before-the-horse.
If a company just wanted to make money, they should be managing hedge funds or trading commodities or making super-villain hand gestures as they contemplate the diminishing world stock of petroleum.
A business has to make money to survive. They must take in a certain amount of profit in excess of their costs in order to make their payroll, pay for their supplies, and so forth.
But a company like EA shouldn't be in business to make money; they should be in business to make video games. That's their job; that's why they should go to work in the morning. To the extent that they're in business to make money, they're doing that job wrong, and many of their bad decisions can be traced back to exactly that. Perversely, it's ultimately self-defeating: analyzing their customers and treating them like a revenue stream rather than like people causes their use as a revenue stream to diminish (i.e., you piss people off, they stop buying your products.)
[And I would be happy to have a t-shirt, Jim, you sexy beast.]
I had two particular insights in the wake of IGN's article.
One: the most sharp, vivid, and painful difference between Origin and Steam can be summed up thusly: because of Steam, I've bought and played games I otherwise wouldn't have (Lone Survivor, The Binding of Isaac, Magicka, and even big-name titles like Warhammer 40K Space Marine and Resident Evil 5.) Because of Origin, I haven't played games I otherwise definitely would have (most notably, Mass Effect 3.)
Two: The "Of course, they're a business, they're in business to make money" argument is incredibly f@#%ed up. It's cart-before-the-horse.
If a company just wanted to make money, they should be managing hedge funds or trading commodities or making super-villain hand gestures as they contemplate the diminishing world stock of petroleum.
A business has to make money to survive. They must take in a certain amount of profit in excess of their costs in order to make their payroll, pay for their supplies, and so forth.
But a company like EA shouldn't be in business to make money; they should be in business to make video games. That's their job; that's why they should go to work in the morning. To the extent that they're in business to make money, they're doing that job wrong, and many of their bad decisions can be traced back to exactly that. Perversely, it's ultimately self-defeating: analyzing their customers and treating them like a revenue stream rather than like people causes their use as a revenue stream to diminish (i.e., you piss people off, they stop buying your products.)
[And I would be happy to have a t-shirt, Jim, you sexy beast.]
I have yet to even finish the first Dead Space, but after seeing Dead Space 3 in Game Informer, I'm saying goodbye to it too.vxicepickxv said:
Thank you Jim you were right on top of that one. I read the article and I was like "really ign you suck this much cock?" So yeah they needed to be called out and the payoff had better be worth it they have lost my respect now.
Also Id like to have that gravity rush shirt.btw jim stirling is a sexy sexy man.
Also jim i live in tupelo ms it would be nothing to send that shirt to me. Me also being a fan of the game itself.
Also Id like to have that gravity rush shirt.btw jim stirling is a sexy sexy man.
Also jim i live in tupelo ms it would be nothing to send that shirt to me. Me also being a fan of the game itself.
After skimming this whole thread I only saw one mention of this video:
And as a literal copy paste of the video's description, this might be why people hate EA:
-This is for buying out some of the best game companies and turning them to mediocrity.
-This is for having some of the worst customer service in the gaming industry.
-This is for deliberately holding back game content for the sole purpose of making customers pay more for it later as DLC.
-This is for strictly enforcing copyrights on content that you did not even create.
-This is for taking the Need for Speed franchise and completely ruining it.
-This is for supporting the S.O.P.A.
-This is for overworking some of your employees with no benefeits, demolishing any creative talent they have.
-This is for making terms of use that allow you to backstab your customers any time you see fit.
-This is for releasing the same things every year, an increasingly large number being the only difference.
-This is for forcing your customers to stay online to even play several games you publish at all.
-This is for backstabbing Valve, preventing the developers you publish for from releasing their games via Steam for the sole purpose of promoting your own platform.
-This is for overhyping your games and not delivering the content you promised.
-This is for increasing the funding of media review organizations to get better reviews of your games.
-This is for monopolizing the entire gaming industry and crushing all that oppose you.
[I would like a Gravity Rush shirt please. Also Jim is sexy.]
And as a literal copy paste of the video's description, this might be why people hate EA:
-This is for buying out some of the best game companies and turning them to mediocrity.
-This is for having some of the worst customer service in the gaming industry.
-This is for deliberately holding back game content for the sole purpose of making customers pay more for it later as DLC.
-This is for strictly enforcing copyrights on content that you did not even create.
-This is for taking the Need for Speed franchise and completely ruining it.
-This is for supporting the S.O.P.A.
-This is for overworking some of your employees with no benefeits, demolishing any creative talent they have.
-This is for making terms of use that allow you to backstab your customers any time you see fit.
-This is for releasing the same things every year, an increasingly large number being the only difference.
-This is for forcing your customers to stay online to even play several games you publish at all.
-This is for backstabbing Valve, preventing the developers you publish for from releasing their games via Steam for the sole purpose of promoting your own platform.
-This is for overhyping your games and not delivering the content you promised.
-This is for increasing the funding of media review organizations to get better reviews of your games.
-This is for monopolizing the entire gaming industry and crushing all that oppose you.
[I would like a Gravity Rush shirt please. Also Jim is sexy.]
I think Activision's been doing that thing with Call of Duty (dragging out a franchise while avoiding original ip's like the plague) for years though, with examples being Tony Hawk's Pro Skater and Guitar Hero. These IP's weren't bad, they just got drug out to a point where there was no way for the developers to make new ideas in time for their yearly release, and so they just got more and more bland until they (eventually) died with a whimper.WaitWHAT said:
Also, they ride the whole day 1 DLC bandwagon a lot along with generally useless DLC. Remember during the days of COD MW2 when they charged $15 dollars for 2 new (ugly) maps and 3 maps from COD4? So, they basically try to rip you off on the value vs. content level all the time.
I have been waiting for this episode for a long time. This episode was even longer then most and it still couldn't touch on all the crappy crap EA does. I bet much of Jim's points didn't even need much research because it's all too easy to recall the shit EA puts it's customers through on a daily basis. Seriously, fuck this company and thank God for Jim!
[I would like a Gravity Rush shirt please and Jim is sexier then EA is evil. That's a whole lot of sexy.]
[I would like a Gravity Rush shirt please and Jim is sexier then EA is evil. That's a whole lot of sexy.]
You know, Jim may be smug, he may be arrogant, but my god does he hit the nail on the head so many fucking times, it's unbelievable. His show went from shit not worth watching to Extra Credits levels of interesting.
Also...
[I would like a Gravity Rush shirt please. Also Jim is sexy. All of that in one thing. So do that and then, I willlll contact one person at random with a private message on the forums and if you give me your address, I'll send you this and nothing else threatening or bad. If you want. US residents only because I'm very cheap and I just want to mail this by normal mail. That's it really, thank god for me and you can get a shirt or something if you want.]
=D
Still doing it, even though I'm not a US resident and he won't send it to me, that cheap, sexy fucker.
Also...
[I would like a Gravity Rush shirt please. Also Jim is sexy. All of that in one thing. So do that and then, I willlll contact one person at random with a private message on the forums and if you give me your address, I'll send you this and nothing else threatening or bad. If you want. US residents only because I'm very cheap and I just want to mail this by normal mail. That's it really, thank god for me and you can get a shirt or something if you want.]
=D
Still doing it, even though I'm not a US resident and he won't send it to me, that cheap, sexy fucker.
The hilarity of this video is increased exponentially by the fact there is an article about EA slashing prices on origin games, after it said not a few weeks ago that Steam was cheapening IP's by slashing prices and doing insane sales.
The hypocrisy is nearly mind boggling! I have no idea what is going on with EA, we can see all the symptoms, contradictory press statements to actual actions undertaken by the company, horrible manipulative marketing, crappy reboots and dead studios littered across the floor and of course game budget inflations to the fucking extreme.
We can see those things happen. We can't see what's causing those things to happen. I don't believe all people are morons at the echelon of EA. I don't believe that. I don't believe that they are all money hungry leprechauns ready to kill for a nickel.
It just seems that EA is incredibly incredibly Naive. Yes Naive.
I just can't see them as similar to Activision, the company run by Kotick, a man who went on record stating he hated gaming, games, game making and gamers in general. It seems more that every single time they try something it starts out with a good intention, like syndicate.
2K was doing an old franchise reboot and EA thought, let's do that to. However the farther and farther they got in the less they actually knew what to do with it. So then they fumble it by making a shooter, break it with a generic by the numbers story, then hide it under the carpet by adding coop mode and then hope mom doesn't find it.
It's not their fault they can't change, they just don't have any kind of leader figure on board that can take the reigns.
[Also I would very much like that L sized shirt. I will shrink it down to an M with a few washes in no time.]
The hypocrisy is nearly mind boggling! I have no idea what is going on with EA, we can see all the symptoms, contradictory press statements to actual actions undertaken by the company, horrible manipulative marketing, crappy reboots and dead studios littered across the floor and of course game budget inflations to the fucking extreme.
We can see those things happen. We can't see what's causing those things to happen. I don't believe all people are morons at the echelon of EA. I don't believe that. I don't believe that they are all money hungry leprechauns ready to kill for a nickel.
It just seems that EA is incredibly incredibly Naive. Yes Naive.
I just can't see them as similar to Activision, the company run by Kotick, a man who went on record stating he hated gaming, games, game making and gamers in general. It seems more that every single time they try something it starts out with a good intention, like syndicate.
2K was doing an old franchise reboot and EA thought, let's do that to. However the farther and farther they got in the less they actually knew what to do with it. So then they fumble it by making a shooter, break it with a generic by the numbers story, then hide it under the carpet by adding coop mode and then hope mom doesn't find it.
It's not their fault they can't change, they just don't have any kind of leader figure on board that can take the reigns.
[Also I would very much like that L sized shirt. I will shrink it down to an M with a few washes in no time.]
Me too, man. I remember after I heard about them saving Brutal Legend thinking: "Sweet! EA's investing in original IP's and is making Activision look like a bunch of ponces!"darthzew said:
It took about a year afterwards to realize that EA's one good deed had to be one of the last. Also, Online Passes have no excuse in a pro-consumer market, and the fact that EA acts like they are their basic right pisses me the hell off.
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You said it, Chewie.
Judging by how biased IGN's interview was, I was under the impression that they were EA.subtlefuge said: