JoshChristian100...

[Kuchinawa212]

Oh I just checked Johnchirstian100's youtube account got suspened. Well that ends that

 

[Firia]

I hope everyone here knows that this kid got trolled by 4chan a few days ago.
Ah, I love the smell of /b/tards flaming people that deserve it.
It smells like...
Victory.

yeah, I caught the youtube video of him getting the sheriff called on him hours after it was posted. Totally crazy!

I really hope the kid grows up to be well adjusted when he's older. Cause really? What this kid could turn into scares Future-me. Kids being our future, after all.

Well, this kid is what? 12?
That would make me about 2 years older then him, so there is a small chance.
And I would love the video of that!
Link please?

You asked, and you shall receive.

Spoiler: Video; Rated R for Ridiculous

 

[Legion]

We can trust science because science gains knowledge from observation, you know, actual phenomenon, not just a prophet high on methane. The evidence is all around us for evolution. It is an established scientific fact with no competing hypothesis, therefore you do not believe in it, you accept the fact or you remain wilfully ignorant and reject the fact(if you have a testable hypothesis competing with Darwinian evolution, please elaborate, there are none save Lamarckian evolution which has been disproven). We have witnessed scores of species undergo speciation, a very good recent example is the sympatric(without a barrier separating populations; the populations co-mingle) speciation of Hippocampus subelongatus(a sea horse species).

EDIT: We know climate change happens(global warming is a pretty bad term, since the world doesn't uniformly warm in a disrupted climate), we just don't know how much it has been affected by our activity. The best hypothesis so far is that we have warmed the planet enough to be near a tipping point, for example methane gas trapped under permafrost in the arctic is now being released thanks to the melting of said permafrost.

All very good points, but again, when you say we you are referring to men in white lab coats who make these claims. The vast majority of our species have not witnessed this for themselves and as such are using almost as much faith as any religious person.

Yeah I've witnessed evolution first hand. You yourself did it yourself in 9 months. I will agree that the masses promote their beliefs like religion however the difference is that science can be tested and should re-tested, where areas like religion cannot be tested.

Religion can be good for the people but in our modern time and I dare suggest an overly secure society(at least here in the states) religion isn't really needed to fulfill one of its important roles:ethics. I think(emphasis on think) that religion is essentially the most basic level of ethics. It tries to teach right from wrong and demonstrates the consequences and evil of man. For some people they need that God whether out of fear or other motive to be ethical.

Now U.S. society has gotten to the point where we have such elaborate rules where ethics is built into our laws and social interactions teaching us what is right and wrong. But then again I'm rambling.

Very good points, although in the UK, religion hasn't played a major role in society in over one hundred years so I while I see your point, it's not something I (or anyone I know in real life) has had to deal with really.

Uhm. Except that it's a logical thing. Doctor House explained it on a nice example:

Three cavemen see a stranger, charging at them with a club. One runs, one fights and the third guy invites him for dinner. That one didn't live long enough to have kids.

Survival of the fittest. Animals have been doing that for a looong time - mothers often eat or kill the weak or sick babies. The stronger tribes of monkeys will prevail and pass on the superior genes. Makes more sense than "God created the universe in 6 days and it was already few billions of years old, and he just dropped all the animals from the sky... oh, and he dropped the bones of non-existing animals and buried underground to screw with us" explanation.

Dr. House is the most hypocritical character on television so I don't think quoting him is a good way to prove a point.

While I agree that science is more logical than faith, believing what a scientist says simply because he has a nice white lab coat and a degree is scarcely more rational than believing that there is more to the world than we can understand.

The thing is: Humans work against the evolutionary theory. By that theory men should rape women. Men should kill other men to get the women they want. We should kill the mentally and physically ill because they weaken the gene-pool. We shouldn't adopt children, we should let them die (I know these things happen, but I mean they should be considered normal as they are from an evolutionary standpoint).

You also brought up the point I knew would inevitably come up: You are basing your dislike of religion based purely upon Christianity, I made no mention of specific religions and was simply referring to the belief in God as opposed to coincidence. Most Christians do not believe in the 'God created the Earth in 6 days' story so using that as an arguing point is about as accurate as saying all scientists believe we evolved from monkeys.

It really pisses me off how most anti-theists can only use Christianity as an example, rather than simply discussing the concept of God itself.

while i agree with your point, there is solid evidence of survival of the fittest AND adaption, both of which are major parts of evolution. EXAMPLE: Darwin discovered on his journeys that animals who live in a cold climate have heavy skin/fur, and animals that live in warm climates have light skin/fur/scales. This is recorded fact.

While I agree (remember I said I believe in evolution) I was making a point about individual belief. There is indeed convincing evidence for evolution, but if you asked a hundred random strangers about it, how much do you think they could tell you? Most people probably know as little about evolution as they do religious beliefs, I mean, if I hadn't taken psychology at college I would know very little about it myself.

Oh definitely people take evolution on faith, I like that you called scientists prophets....[sub]tickles my funny bone because ignorant people totally treat them like that.[/sub]

I am of the camp who doesn't really care about either, I mean I find it intriguing and I have educated myself on both sides of the debate but when push comes to shove I don't think it really matters, well....if the bible is true it does but whatever.


By the way, I think global warming is natural and is part of a planetary cycle, just in case you were curious. =-)

I am in complete agreement.

actualy we can watch evolution, people just dont realise it, each year when flu season comes around we are seeing the evolution of the flu virus. There is also a story of a silver fox farm in russia some where and over the course of them breeding foxes for thier skins they accidently bred the fox out of them, they turned them into dogs with floppy ears and no more silver coats, Its evolution baby.

Really alot of the scientific resistance you see is because ppl just dont know how to read the data or just dont bother to really research it.

Again, while I agree with you, what I was getting at is that a lot of atheists don't know any of this stuff, and have not witnessed it for themselves (or as you rightly said, they didn't understand/research what they saw). As such they are taking it on faith.

Like gravity. I know fuck all about how it works, but I believe in the basic theory, I am taking it on pure faith. I have seen no concrete evidence to back up the Earth having magnetic pull or whatnot, but it is the most logical theory to me so I accept it. It is still faith though.

 

[Abedeus]

Dr. House is the most hypocritical character on television so I don't think quoting him is a good way to prove a point.

He's hypocritical about himself. This example is actually good.

While I agree that science is more logical than faith, believing what a scientist says simply because he has a nice white lab coat and a degree is scarcely more rational than believing that there is more to the world than we can understand.

Why? We can't see God or his effects. We can't see wind, but we see the leaves blow and hurricanes. We can't see the void of space, but we can experience its coldness (about 2K, last time I checked).

Again, paraphrasing House "You can't trust someone who hides in the closet".

The thing is: Humans work against the evolutionary theory. By that theory men should rape women. Men should kill other men to get the women they want. We should kill the mentally and physically ill because they weaken the gene-pool. We shouldn't adopt children, we should let them die (I know these things happen, but I mean they should be considered normal as they are from an evolutionary standpoint).

No, humans TODAY work against the evolution. Stupid and spoiled kids get rich because of the rich parents, lazy idiots can bribe teachers, cops and employees to overcome problems. But in the old days.. the stronger people usually won wars, and the weak ones lost and had their children killed.

You also brought up the point I knew would inevitably come up: You are basing your dislike of religion based purely upon Christianity, I made no mention of specific religions and was simply referring to the belief in God as opposed to coincidence. Most Christians do not believe in the 'God created the Earth in 6 days' story so using that as an arguing point is about as accurate as saying all scientists believe we evolved from monkeys.

I dislike most religions. The only one I tolerate is Buddhism, only because it technically isn't a religion and Buddhists don't consider it a religion either. Or at least Buddha didn't want to be worshipped as a deity.

In theory I'm a Christian, but I haven't been to church in God only knows how long. I think that at least since my sister's wedding in July.

It really pisses me off how most anti-theists can only use Christianity as an example, rather than simply discussing the concept of God itself.

I'm not anti-theists. As long as Christians and religious people don't force their beliefs on other people. Or when they call names and insult homosexualists.

Concept of God is... uh.. A giant, bearded anthropomorphic creature that can smite people with the thumb. I'll believe it when I see it.