Judge Sentences Hacker to 6 Years Without Computers

[Twilight_guy]

To anyone who likes hackers: People don';t like that movie because it does not know how computers work (despite being about computers), and that is actually an understatement.

OT: It could have been a lot worse for him. Yeah, it might hinder his ability to do whatever but he can skill practice his skills, so long as someone watches so he can still make useful programs (not network oriented program though) if he really wants to. (course if he's just a little shit that wanted to mess with people he'll find some other way to mess with them).

 

[Gilhelmi]

How exactly is this to be enforced? Because unless someone is with him 24/7 this is a joke. If anything, I heard of these lovely places called internet cafes that offer anonymous access to the internet. Heck, screw that, if he doesn't do anything stupid he could use the internet to his heart's content with a laptop/netbook/tablet and some free wi-fi...

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind. Either punish the kid or don't, this is just silly.

My thoughts as well. I do know of some very good software that is advertised on Christian Radio for monitoring the internet, then only have the parole officer have access too the monitoring software. Still that is very labor intensive. Even logs take time to search.

Though the lawyer is crazy, I would gladly take ANY punishment over Youth Detention (I have heard horror stories).

 

[Sean951]

keep of any computer for six years or you will go to jail.

okay *pulls out new smartphone and starts to hack*

yes, the smartphones are getting there..

They did specify networked devices, so no internet for him.

People are calling the internet a human right now? No. The ability to speak your thoughts, a fair judicial system, and to believe in what ever deity/lack of deity you want are human rights. The internet is a luxury that facilitates speaking your mind, but it is hardly required. It isn't something that exists in all American households, let alone households world wide, and until 20 years ago, the idea of everyone having the internet was laughable.

I would also like to point out that we consider freedom to be human right, but we all tolerate jails because we don't want a murderer or rapist out and about. Same thing. We don't want someone who has stolen personal information out and about online.

 

[CJ1145]

I thought internet had turned into a human right over the years?
Apparently not

When you abuse your human right to commit theft, amongst other crimes, you kind of lose some entitlement.

 

[Zburator]

I thought internet had turned into a human right over the years?
Apparently not

When you abuse your human right to commit theft, amongst other crimes, you kind of lose some entitlement.

Specifically when you start abusing OTHER people's rights. The people tend to like their personal information nice and secure, thanks.

Kid deserved the punishment and I don't care a whit if he is some Mozart. People, regardless of intellectual level, should be equally subjugated to the punishment of the law.

 

[Strazdas]

It's still a bit fascinating to me how there's nothing legal you can do to get more rights as a minor but there are a number of illegal things you can do as a minor to get you treated as having the recognizance an adult.

No display of maturity as a 17-year-old will make it legal for you to bone somebody, drink, smoke or vote; but if you kill enough people as a twelve year old you can get tried as an adult. Modern society is fun that way, isn't it?

well, actually, in some states from 16 year olds you can legaly leave home. theres a lot of beurocracy, and you have to find people who are willing to "take you in and sign on it" but its possible. this is usually limited to cases where parent has to move to another place for work reasons and the kid wants to stay in same school/with same friends but technically it can be done for other stuff.

P.S. capcha suggests: new york city
bad capcha, learn law




OT: well thats the worst punishment for him. a hackers life is all about computers, they pretty much locked him out of his only free time. he will have to re-learn to live. And internet is not human right, despite what some prisoners who got acess to internet would say to you.

The people tend to like their personal information nice and secure, thanks.

if that was truth facebook wouldnt exist. its hard to imagine what people put there.

I doubt any of you guys would be so lenient if he stole some of your personal information... Just a thought.

i got nothing to hide.....

 

[SextusMaximus]

Like taking away Mozart's Piano? This is more like taking away an assassin's favourite gun. Yes, they may be astoundingly talented with it, but that doesn't change the fact that he uses that gun to break the laws. That's exactly what this person did and deserves day of those six years that he gets.

It's not cruel or unusual to take away someone's means of crime. Next time he should think before he acts.

Don't think you've quite understood that metaphor.

 

[Reginald the Butler]

It's not at all like taking away Mozarts piano. Mozart wasn't being an asshole with his piano,

I don't know man, have you seen the movie "Amadeus"? Mozart was a bit of an asshole.

 

[AngloDoom]

I thought internet had turned into a human right over the years?
Apparently not

No, not in the Land of the Free.

Some people can't afford internet access and those who can might not always have coverage. People live in areas where they can barely get mobile telephone connection these days in the Western world; I don't quite see how internet access is a 'human right'. The teen still has internet access anyway, he just has to ask before he uses it. I don't think that's particularly unreasonable for a fifteen-year-old.

OT:

Punishment fits the crime like a glove. The kid has to use his talents for something more constructive on his computer, he (hopefully) cannot repeat the crime, he still can use the internet so long as he has written permission (from whom I don't know, but I assume the parents), and it avoids dragging a teenager out of his home and community and banging him inside a place built to hold dangerously misguided youths.

I'm all for this, really. The fact that people are equating this to torture is a bit...

Spoiler: well,

 

[Shuguard]

Catch me if you can(movie) much? Also no, this kid knew what he was doing so he deserves to be punished. Also computer has a more uses than just the internet. While most cannot relate to this fact a computer was created before the internet. Plus the kid gets to probably play minesweeper, pinball or freecell, he got off way too easy.

 

[surg3n]

It's like every story that remotely relates to hacking has to have that damn screenshot of that terrible hackers movie... get over it FFS!

"At some level it's like taking away Mozart's piano," the lawyer said.

The lawyer is an idiot - this guy hacked into Paypal and Amazon accounts - the computing world does not need his services, we have enough malware and spyware and fucktard hackers who shouldn't be allowed to procreate, never mind use a computer. Boo fricken hoo his career, his skills, his talent - 1 less hacker to worry about.

 

[Olas]

So he can still use the Wii

Ya, because the Wii doesn't have any form of internet access. ಠ_ಠ

The lawyer is an idiot - this guy hacked into Paypal and Amazon accounts - the computing world does not need his services, we have enough malware and spyware and fucktard hackers who shouldn't be allowed to procreate, never mind use a computer. Boo fricken hoo his career, his skills, his talent - 1 less hacker to worry about.

Ya, because there's no way his talents could be used for anything else besides stealing information. ಠ_ಠ

 

[K84]

This is cruel and unusual punishment.

No man should be without internet access.

If you start a UGGs Nazi movement, you deserve way more cruelty.
Seriously, retarded Germans with equelly retarded footwear, what was he thinking?

 

[surg3n]

The lawyer is an idiot - this guy hacked into Paypal and Amazon accounts - the computing world does not need his services, we have enough malware and spyware and fucktard hackers who shouldn't be allowed to procreate, never mind use a computer. Boo fricken hoo his career, his skills, his talent - 1 less hacker to worry about.

Ya, because there's no way his talents could be used for anything else besides stealing information. ಠ_ಠ

Nothing that would actually benefit anyone, that's for sure. People need to give up on this idea that hackers are in any way positive - like they took a wrong turn in life and ended up trying to rip people off, otherwise they'd be president, or cure cancer, or some other pish because they are sooooo smart and mis-understood... give me a break. They are the lowest of the computer world low, the equivalent of a mugger in the street. He wasn't hacking to proove a point or support anyone, he was hacking to steal money, if he could, he'd be taking your money right now.

 

[9thRequiem]

The lawyer is an idiot - this guy hacked into Paypal and Amazon accounts - the computing world does not need his services, we have enough malware and spyware and fucktard hackers who shouldn't be allowed to procreate, never mind use a computer. Boo fricken hoo his career, his skills, his talent - 1 less hacker to worry about.

Ya, because there's no way his talents could be used for anything else besides stealing information. ಠ_ಠ

But it wasn't.
If someone is really good at shooting, then goes on a killing-rampage, no-one's going to advocate letting him use a gun again "Because his skills could be used for good".

 

[Warachia]

Like taking away Mozart's Piano? This is more like taking away an assassin's favourite gun. Yes, they may be astoundingly talented with it, but that doesn't change the fact that he uses that gun to break the laws. That's exactly what this person did and deserves day of those six years that he gets.

It's not cruel or unusual to take away someone's means of crime. Next time he should think before he acts.

Get the hell off my internet.

Next we'll be hearing about how it's ok to tell someone they can't read books anymore because they learned how to create makeshift weapons in some novel they read.

That book gave them the information on how to make a weapon, it was not used as a weapon. The person in question used a computer as the weapon against these sites, and as a possible crowbar into people's personal lives and details.

Bullshit, now you're trying to twist this in a way you shouldn't.
The internet gave him the knowledge, the computer gave him the ability, the book in that statement is just as much of a "means of crime" as that computer as it also gave him the knowledge and ability he otherwise wouldn't have.