lol yeah sounds like TF2. I just ignore basically every one.
Another good peice of advice is to see who every one else on your team is playing as. Pick a class that you're good at and there is few or none of on your team.
And if you're not a good sniper don't pick sniper. Unless you can get a headshot 3 out of 5 times you're just spy bait.
And yeah don't let spys ruin it for you. If you keep getting killed by spys switch to pyro and sweep every one and every corner. It pisses them off as much as getting backstabbed pisses you off.
Okay. Fine. I'll reinstall the damn game, and I'll try using 'start playing', and I'll fave any servers I find which are at least reasonably nice to me, and I'll try to stop minding that I'm terrible because I don't have enough time to spend just playing it, and I'll wear the PoP, and play Medic, and all that. I shouldn't have made this thread, though. I should have just asked for advice. That way, it wouldn't be a strain on my sanity.
So now that I've admitted over and over that I fail at life, please, please, please, please...
Welcome to the internet, you have no control over the information that gets on there.
Anyway don't use the stupid matchmaker, this is PC not a console and real men use a server browser. You just need to know what you're looking for.
If it's a 32 player server than it's most likely going to be a spamfest. If it's a 12 or 16 player server it may be kitted out more for coordinated play which you should avoid at this stage of your career as a mercenary for RED/BLU. If the server is on a 5 point CP map such as CP_Badlands, CP_Granary, CP_Well or Yukon etc then it may house a higher proportion of players involved in PUGs and competitions (so you should avoid it unless you want to learn by example i.e. watching them tear the shit out of you). NOTE: One of the most telling signs of a server is its map rotation, if it's CP only then it'll often have more "pro players", if the rotation has a mix of payload and some CP then that's what you'll want.
Some further advice, don't play instaspawn payload. It's unbalanced in favour of the defenders since their spawn is usually right next to the final capture point. Only go on 24/7 instaspawn 2 Fort servers if you want to mess around. I.e. learning to play sniper, practicing rocket jumps or just hunting for frags. If you want to play to win go elsewhere.
If you can't convince any of your friends to play a FREE GAME THAT'S AWESOME then go on to all-talk servers. This will at least simulate human contact. If it looks to be some kind of community's server (and mostly they will be if it's all-talk) then I'd avoid idly talking too much for your first games there. Then once they get to recognising you (i.e. like 6 or so games with the same people, ideally playing as a class that'll get you noticed through conspicuous acts of helpfulness/ownage) then you might consider chatting a little or finding their website and joining their forums. (Use your own discretion, I'm sure you know how to make friends).
Finally you could move to Australia. We don't have as many server's as you guys but most people on there seem fairly nice. Again it's all about picking the right servers and this is something you'll learn with time.
ADDENDUM: Playing an online competitive FPS is like going clubbing. Sure there's douchebags out there but you can often have a great time (especially with friends). Also when you're dancing (playing) don't go about being all conspicuous (talking a lot, telling your team how to play) especially if you don't have the skills to back it up. Get out there, have some fun, focus on your own performance and maybe you'll get asked to dance... that metaphor went a lot longer than I thought it would.
(Use your own discretion, I'm sure you know how to make friends).
Finally you could move to Australia. We don't have as many server's as you guys but most people on there seem fairly nice. Again it's all about picking the right servers and this is something you'll learn with time.
For the backstabbing thing, do you ever stop moving? Do you see an enemy and stop to aim? I haven't played TF2 for a while but if there's one thing i remember, never stop moving.
Yeah it throws off your aim, but it makes you a harder target.
Also make it a habit to turn around randomly when you're walking around. If you see anyone suspicious, shoot em.
For sure. I don't even play RTS games online any more because of this. It usually starts less them 60 seconds into the game.
No one wants to be the worst player but if you worry too much about being the best you'll still end up with a bad score. Filling the holes in your team's defense or offense is how you get a good score.
Like I said try the Demoman he's pretty easy to learn. And USE THE DEFAULT WEAPONS until you learn how to play a class. Default weapons are almost always better then the new weapons. The minor bonuses they add destroy your flexibility.
Can't you close a thread just by editing the main post and clicking "delete"?
Oh yeah, and play all the classes. People always say one's easy (or show off in the case of w+m1 pyros) but everyone's mentality is different to each class. I honestly think the Heavy is the easiest class, since you just spray-n'-pray whilst ducking occasionally to confuse snipers.
Finally, someone who doesn't tell me that the Medic has the solution to starving kids in Africa.
Unfortunately, from what I have played of the Demoman, it's not easy at all: when you're not blowing yourself up, you're placing sticky bombs in obvious places and nobody ever runs into them or trying to hit someone in melee and losing because you have the worst melee.
liger03 said:
Can't you close a thread just by editing the main post and clicking "delete"?
The game is free now, get some of you friends to download it and play with you, then they can jump to your defense when those asshole dochbags start to be mean to you. I know that there is nothing that ruins a game more than when you are on a server with a bunch of bullies who wont leave you alone, but going in with a group of friends can really help get you in to the game, help you improve and get good at the game, and once you have started to get better the bullying will stop being as bad. Bullies aim for weaker targets, and that is also true in the cyber world, People who are not as experienced can have a terrible time when playing their new game, It annoys the hell out of me but it is something that I don't think is going to stop and that we need to find a way around, because people can just be real dicks sometimes.
(Use your own discretion, I'm sure you know how to make friends).
Finally you could move to Australia. We don't have as many server's as you guys but most people on there seem fairly nice. Again it's all about picking the right servers and this is something you'll learn with time.
In which case I've heard singleplayer games are fun...
Seriously though, if you really dislike playing the game then don't play it. You'll only get good at the things you actually like. Make sure that your dislike for the game is due to mechanics/style and not playerbase (because the Australian TF2 population is not that bad) or your getting owned (because that will obviously stop when you get better).
Also I'd recommend my favourite server to you but it's gone or moved or whatever, (It was the TF2AU Reddit server).
In terms of what class to play I've heard you've been playing scout a lot. Stop it. Unless you're a good twitch gamer then you should come back to scout after you've had more time with other classes. Scouts are glass cannons capable of taking down multiple foes at once (but only if you're good). Go soldier or heavy for a bit, you'll be more successful and this will teach you how to counter them as a scout.
Team Fortress isn't the easiest game to get into. I liked it for a while, the people got on my nerves however. I think I saw anime scat porn one server then I uninstalled, never to go back. I'd suggest doing the same if you can't really think of any redeeming qualities to the game.
And theres your problem right there. You gave it only 13 hours. Trust me I didn't get good at TF2 till a while in but when I did it was really fun. Yes there are jerks on TF2 but what game doesn't? And generally the community has been great. As to your backstabbing problem either play Scout or Pyro as spies leave them alone or keep your back to the wall.
Well, here's the thing: I play as Scout more than all the other classes put together, and I STILL get backstabbed more than anyone else!!! So the problem isn't being a spy-proof class: it's that, like I said, I have a 'stab me' sign on my back!!!!!!
Fact: there is no such thing as a "Spy-proof" class. No matter what class you pick, ALWAYS look behind you every few seconds.
It sounds to me like you've just had some bad luck with your server choices. Ever since TF2 went F2P there's been an upsurge in elitist pricks. I'd suggest that you try the official Valve servers, as many new/inexperienced players frequent them.
I don't get the self-entitlement that 'teh hardcore playerz' take out on so-called 'noobs'. Take an 'o' out of that word and apply it to those 'hardcores' and that's exactly what they are. Unless they were born expert in the game, they should shut the f**k up and give other players the opportunity to get better at the game. Skill and knowledge is learnt. It isn't a birthright or entitlement, and thus it can't be withheld by nobs who wield such skills as compensation for their obvious inadequacies as people.
Yeah i had the same problem i really wanted play spy on xbox but since it was really hard everyone would shout at me so i had play pyro which got boring then i bought it for pc it took me a little but i got used to playing engineer but i stopped playing for a long time and only started again during the halloween update.
And i got happy with the update for bots so i practised since i didn't want play multiplayer incase what happened on xbox happened again i got loads of items but the only thing at annoys me is at i have to wear my medal of fourtune (you get it for buying the game 1 month after it was out) so people don't start getting pissed off thinking im a F2P player and only recently i decided to go on multiplayer the first server 2fort is a good one people keep quiet so its easy
and i have managed to be good at spy triple backstabs!
It takes time to get good just try with the bots then join a server when you know your ready.
Unless your on xbox none of the above can be done.
TF2 servers can be run by anyone and honestly 90% of everything is crap so lots of servers will suck. That's the nature of online gaming. Giving up so easily is not going to get you anywhere. If one dick server can ruin your fun then you mind as well never buy a game with multiplayer again because their will always be dicks. Honestly it sounds like you got kicked down one time and then threw a hissy-fit with sour grapes. If you not bother with it, fine but give us a little more explanation besides one bad event before you just declare the game horrible.
I think I spotted the problem, presumably you are fairly young or act like it online which starts all sorts of fires.
95% of multiplayer game content is community, if people don't play nice the experience will be shite every step of the way.
I say go back in 3 or 5 years, as we get older we tend to cool off and all the trivial stuff that makes you go up in flames now will be gone.
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