Just watched Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone again, and wow...

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Goblet of fire onwards was watchable for me...Children cannot act for shit ¬.¬. I also hated the Dumbledore in the 1st and 2nd films he seemed too old.

In England it's known as the Philosopher's stone :) (if I spelt that right :p)
 

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Agent Larkin said:
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I'm still stuck on them having an entire house devoted to people that are pretty much ALWAYS future psychopaths and everyone's just OK with it.

And how about Quidditch? ONE BALL wins the game? Who the fuck thought THAT was a good idea? So even if the entire is amazing at the sport, as long as the opposing team has ONE good player they can still win, even if the rest of their team sucks? How is that balanced? How is that fair?
I'm going to feel like such a nerd for this but...

The snitch doesn't = an automatic win. When the snitch is caught the game ends and the team that caught it gets 150 points. If I remember correctly that's how Ireland wins the Quidditch World Cup because even after Krum gets the snitch the Irish were still ahead on points.

Now I could be horribly wrong but I think that's it.
No, you're completely right.

Lieju said:
But it's kinda unfair how Slytherin are judged. In the latest movie when they take back the school McGonagall just orders all Slytherin to be thrown to the dungeons. Were they all evil douchebags?
Well, that's one of the important qualities you need to have to get in Slytherin.

You have to be willing to do ANYTHING to achieve your goals.
Well, that or be able to talk to snakes.
 

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Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
I'm still stuck on them having an entire house devoted to people that are pretty much ALWAYS future psychopaths and everyone's just OK with it.
remembering that harry was originally going ot be Slytherin before he basically told the hat to go fuck itself for doing its job by questioning it (seriously, why have the hat choose if someone can just say I dont want to go there and the hats all cool about it), Slytherin gets a bad rap for its past members. In a cliche way, they're like the cobra kai dojo, they're so stereotypically evil that you have no doubt who is supposed to be bad and who is supposed to be good. I'm sure there have been some decent people who have come out of Slytherin (maybe).

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Caramel Frappe said:
... I've seen all 5 movies, ...
I think you're missing a few there friend. there's 7 movies so far, and the last is coming out in a week (which means it will be out the same day as the new winnie the pooh movie, and I know what I'm going to go see).
 

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I'd been lead to believe that the Headmaster should be impartial and not show favouritism to one particular house. So... yeah, that's just fucked up. Particularly the Neville thing, cause I swear Dumbledore only did that to make sure Gryffindor won. 10 points for standing up to your friends? You're right, that is bullshit!
 

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shrekfan246 said:
Agent Larkin said:
Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
I'm still stuck on them having an entire house devoted to people that are pretty much ALWAYS future psychopaths and everyone's just OK with it.

And how about Quidditch? ONE BALL wins the game? Who the fuck thought THAT was a good idea? So even if the entire is amazing at the sport, as long as the opposing team has ONE good player they can still win, even if the rest of their team sucks? How is that balanced? How is that fair?
I'm going to feel like such a nerd for this but...

The snitch doesn't = an automatic win. When the snitch is caught the game ends and the team that caught it gets 150 points. If I remember correctly that's how Ireland wins the Quidditch World Cup because even after Krum gets the snitch the Irish were still ahead on points.

Now I could be horribly wrong but I think that's it.
You're right. Fred and George made bets with...someone...can't remember who...that Krum would catch the Snitch but Ireland would win.
Ludo Bagman. Yes, I have grown up with the Harry Potter books, and I have a freakish knowledge of them. Not that that question really showcases it, but still.
 

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imnotparanoid said:
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Well I've viewed it as the three boys and a girl got some points for pretty much.. well, saving the world. Y'know. Stopping Voldemort coming to life and being immortal and all that.

And The Philosopher's Stone ('cos that's the name) seemed quite innocent compared to the others.
Sorcerers stone is the American title, i know, its stupid to change it given that its a british film.
They dont have a very high view of Americans do they XD
No they don't. They changed it because they were worried American kids would assume it was about philosophy and not magic. Even though kids who would be young enough to be that dumb wouldn't even know what philosophy meant, so in a way they were also giving them too much credit.
 

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It is kinda questionable, but y'know, feel good ending and all.

I'm more worried about how old knowing I saw the first film near launch makes me feel, and how I appear to be the only person who can't find Emma Watson attractive.

C'mon. The first time I saw her, she was, what, 11? I just can't find someone attractive when I can remember them being so young so vividly. It's just gorram weird.
 

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There is more then just blindly obeying the rules. Sometimes a rule isn't right or has to be broken in order to do something that has to be done. You've got to use your head and know when it's not right to follow the rules. Sure the guys from Slytherin were working with the Ministry but the Ministry was working against the students of Hogwarts. If humans had always followed the rules made up by some people then I doubt that we would have democracy in so many countries now.
 

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GiglameshSoulEater said:
If the philospher's stone was destroyed anyway, why didn't the dumbledore just destroy it before the story began = problem solved.
Because Dumbledore knew that destroying the stone would result in the death of one of his best friends, Nicholas Flamel. He thought that if he hid the stone, it would be safe and Flamel wouldn't have to die.
However, after the battle at the end of the first book, Dumbledore realised that it was too dangerous for the stone to exist, so he was able to talk to Nicholas, and they both decided that it was for the best if it was destroyed, despite the sacrifice.
 

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Beryl77 said:
There is more then just blindly obeying the rules. Sometimes a rule isn't right or has to be broken in order to do something that has to be done. You've got to use your head and know when it's not right to follow the rules. Sure the guys from Slytherin were working with the Ministry but the Ministry was working against the students of Hogwarts. If humans had always followed the rules made up by some people then I doubt that we would have democracy in so many countries now.
Yeah but some of these rules were there for a reason. Such as in the first movie, because they went after Voldemort they gave him teh chance to take the stone since harry is one of the few people who could get it from the mirror. Without Harry Voldemort wouldn't of have beeen able to get the stone in the first place.

Hell in the goblet of fire Harry again screwed everyone over because he bypassed the rule that limited the number of players. True he himself didnt do it, but no one forced him to play. But because he did that boy died and Voldemort was able to be whole again. If Harry just sat back and watch the games instead, no one would of died and Voldemort would still be weak.
 

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Bearjing said:
Beryl77 said:
There is more then just blindly obeying the rules. Sometimes a rule isn't right or has to be broken in order to do something that has to be done. You've got to use your head and know when it's not right to follow the rules. Sure the guys from Slytherin were working with the Ministry but the Ministry was working against the students of Hogwarts. If humans had always followed the rules made up by some people then I doubt that we would have democracy in so many countries now.
Yeah but some of these rules were there for a reason. Such as in the first movie, because they went after Voldemort they gave him teh chance to take the stone since harry is one of the few people who could get it from the mirror. Without Harry Voldemort wouldn't of have beeen able to get the stone in the first place.

Hell in the goblet of fire Harry again screwed everyone over because he bypassed the rule that limited the number of players. True he himself didnt do it, but no one forced him to play. But because he did that boy died and Voldemort was able to be whole again. If Harry just sat back and watch the games instead, no one would of died and Voldemort would still be week.

I am certain that Harry needed to play or he would have died - some such thing about a binding magical contract (anytime a binding magical contract was mentioned before or after that, people die/something else horrible happens when they break it). So, the Triwizard thing was not his fault - his fault was that he was too noble.

OT: The house cup is a joke anyway - the teachers hand out points for nothing and take it away with a Draconian sense of punishment (personal punishments always come with peer punishments).
 

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Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
I'm still stuck on them having an entire house devoted to people that are pretty much ALWAYS future psychopaths and everyone's just OK with it.
One of the reasons Slughorn was introduced in book 6 is because he's how a Slytharin usualy is. Ambitious and self-serving yes, but not a bad person. The problem with the books is that people who are ambitious and self-serving are likely to throw their lot in with someone like Voddy as well as Harry not liking them means the psycho ones are the only ones we get to see.
 

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I remember not noticing what a douchebag Dumbledore was in that scene the first time I saw the film as a 10 year old. My mom pointed out how mean he was (even though she didn't notice when she read the book) especially the part where he "changes the decorations" right in front of the disappointed students.

Now I just find that whole thing unintentionally hilarious. As if Dumbledore, the kind, brilliant, wise old man took some pleasure in trolling a bunch of children. :p
 

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Foxblade618 said:
I am certain that Harry needed to play or he would have died - some such thing about a binding magical contract (anytime a binding magical contract was mentioned before or after that, people die/something else horrible happens when they break it). So, the Triwizard thing was not his fault - his fault was that he was too noble.

OT: The house cup is a joke anyway - the teachers hand out points for nothing and take it away with a Draconian sense of punishment (personal punishments always come with peer punishments).
I don't remember him being forced to play but even if that is the case, you wont die if you lose (hell the only one that did die tied for first). All he had to do was just stand there at the starting line and wait till he lost or forfeit a round. Why would you ever participate in something like this with only 3 years of magic under your belt when it was risky for people with twice that experience.
 

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Slytherin House just got robbed.

What kind of crap was that?
Hermione got 50 points for being smart
Ron got 50 points for being good at chess.
Harry got 60 points for being nice.
Neville got 10 points for standing up to his housemates; trying to keep them from breaking the rules?

The worst thing we saw from Slytherin was Draco being snobby and informing the faculty of Gyffindor students being out past curfew.

Gryffindor had no right in winning the House Cup. No wonder members of Slytherin House ended up so 'rotten'. They played by the rules and should have won, but had that victory taken from them by a bunch of troublemakers. Even worse in Order of the Pheonix members of Slytherin are working with the Ministry of Magic and are still perceived to be the villains.
Dumbledore makes up those BS points because the kids were trying to, and succeeded, in stopping Voldemort from obtaining immortality. Dumbledore couldn't tell anyone of what happened so he rewards them by giving them the house cup.

As for Slytherine "working with the Ministry", the Ministry member tried having Harry killed on a few different occasions based on the fact that she thought he was lying. Not only that but she became drunk with power within the school, firing teachers on a whim or simply because those teachers had a different opinion on controversial matters. For crying out loud she was mutilating kids hands in detention. Slytherine "worked" with her because she let them abuse the other students.

Read the books, the movies leave out everything that's important and only exist to stuff J.K.s wallet a bit more.
 

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Rex Dark said:
Lieju said:
But it's kinda unfair how Slytherin are judged. In the latest movie when they take back the school McGonagall just orders all Slytherin to be thrown to the dungeons. Were they all evil douchebags?
Well, that's one of the important qualities you need to have to get in Slytherin.

You have to be willing to do ANYTHING to achieve your goals.
Well, that or be able to talk to snakes.
Even still, that seems rather prejudiced. Also since the houses are like classes, don't they have to be about as big? So how could the students be divided into houses just based on their qualities. If there are no enough complete douchebags to fill the Slytherin house, wouldn't that mean some of the less douchy people who'd otherwise end up some other house would just be dumbed into that house?
 

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You wouldn't understand, being a muggle and using your muggle logic. We wizards and witches are based off how we save the world, not on how we follow the rules. We're like the cops from an action movie, we don't follow the rules, but we save the day.


By blowing everything up.