I grown up seen things far more sexual. Here (Brazil) the most popular kids program host has already come out in the fucking Playboy and make a porn movie and I grown up normal... almost...
Katy Perry: Escorted Off Sesame Street
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Plus if you watch the sketch she was playing dressup, hence the tinkerbell dressMadara XIII said:
I would complain more about her singing "Hot N Cold" on the show before I complained about the outfit. I don't know the entire song, but I remember hearing lines about PMS and other such stuff. That seems a bit worse than some cleavage and a little jiggling during that dance thing to me.
Of course I'd complain about her singing anything, anywhere, at any time, so maybe I'm just a wee biased.
EDIT: http://www.metrolyrics.com/hot-n-cold-lyrics-katy-perry.html
Of course I'd complain about her singing anything, anywhere, at any time, so maybe I'm just a wee biased.
EDIT: http://www.metrolyrics.com/hot-n-cold-lyrics-katy-perry.html
Yeah let's not sing that on a children's show.first four lines said:
What the hell do parents think goes through their kids heads? Promiscuity means NOTHING to a little kid, they don't get a sex drive for another like 10 freaking years. And it's not like they aren't going to see people wearing that kind of stuff on TV and on the streets on a daily basis anyway, how is it any different?
Katy Perry could be walking around that show with her boobs hanging out completely and it'd mean nothing to kids. Not that I'm saying women should be topless on kids shows, that'd just be weird x3
Katy Perry could be walking around that show with her boobs hanging out completely and it'd mean nothing to kids. Not that I'm saying women should be topless on kids shows, that'd just be weird x3
I live in Europe, and for the most part neither ordinary people or television networks have this irrational fear of nudity.
It's also pretty fun the way US networks practice censorhsip. They basically show an entire breast or naked ass, but they pixelate nipples and make a small pixelated line across the buttcrack. You can't help but think;: "Yeah! That will insure that people don't see too much of the naked human form." *facepalm*
Silly american censorship workers...
It's also pretty fun the way US networks practice censorhsip. They basically show an entire breast or naked ass, but they pixelate nipples and make a small pixelated line across the buttcrack. You can't help but think;: "Yeah! That will insure that people don't see too much of the naked human form." *facepalm*
Silly american censorship workers...
These anal parents always have to find something to complain about. Pre-schoolers wouldn't even realize that the dress was low cut. They'd just be happy to sing along with Elmo. I hate this bull shit American society I live in.
I don't think I'd mind. It would probably be entertaining for the kids. Kids tend to think that naked people look funny and they usually point and laugh at them.Dexiro said:
It would probably make the show entertaining for a few adults as well (though perhaps for different reasons, but the kids won't get that
)Think about it as being kind of like the same idea behind the childrens book "everybody poops" said to motivate children into potty training and not get wierded out by it. If everybody poops, then it's fair to say that everyone looks naked when they're... well, naked? And if they are taught that nakedness isn't wierd or unnatural, then perhaps we wouldn't have to suffer the humiliating sight of seeing adult people going apeshit by seeing some nudity?
It's all just a taboo subject for adults. We're just animals, this negative reaction that some people have to nudity isn't a natural thing. Kids aren't going to be programmed to have this negative reaction that early on, maybe a slightly more relaxed attitude towards this stuff in kids shows would help lift the taboo a little bit.Housebroken Lunatic said:I don't think I'd mind. It would probably be entertaining for the kids. Kids tend to think that naked people look funny and they usually point and laugh at them.Dexiro said:
It would probably make the show entertaining for a few adults as well (though perhaps for different reasons, but the kids won't get that
Think about it as being kind of like the same idea behind the childrens book "everybody poops" said to motivate children into potty training and not get wierded out by it. If everybody poops, then it's fair to say that everyone looks naked when they're... well, naked? And if they are taught that nakedness isn't wierd or unnatural, then perhaps we wouldn't have to suffer the humiliating sight of seeing adult people going apeshit by seeing some nudity?
What.
lolwut?
*sigh* preschoolers will not become obsessed with boobies by seeing a bit of cleavage. [sub]Boobies are awesome anwyays, it's practically a crime to remove boobs from things![/sub]
lolwut?
*sigh* preschoolers will not become obsessed with boobies by seeing a bit of cleavage. [sub]Boobies are awesome anwyays, it's practically a crime to remove boobs from things![/sub]
I always knew it was blue-screened, but to see it blue-screened. A tiny bit of my childhood died...
Oh and bewbs!
Oh and bewbs!
Of course it would. It would most likely also result in less teenage pregnacies and the downright diseased and morbid fascination that teenagers and young adults have about sex.Dexiro said:
After all kids have a tendency to get pretty curious about things that clearly makes the adults become all scared and embarassed. And kids won't be kids forever, they grow up eventually. And they'll all realize that boobs, cunts, cocks and ass are pretty fun "playthings" once you get down to it. And since their parents and the rest of society tried to teach them that nudity and sex are "wrong", taboo and "forbidden" and should be ignored as much as possible, the fascination with it will just increase to unhealthy levels for a lot of people.
After losing their virginity they will probably go: "Hey! This was actually pretty nice! Why the hell would my parents and other adults keep me away from this stuff? I want more, LOTS MORE!!"
And the results? Teenagers and young adults fucking left to right, cheating on eachother, hurting eachother, getting pregnant at grossly inappropriate ages, spreading STD's, causing bystanders who want to wait with sex to feel distressed and socially inept because they "haven't done it yet". Quite simply: pretty much like it is now in our western societies.
When something both makes you feel good but at the same time is treated as taboo, it's going to be tempting and exciting to children growing up. This could almost be considered a fact of life even.
If we take away we taboo, we take away the edge of the subject matter. Hormones will probably do their part anyway so people will probably develop an interest in sex at one time or another, but if the taboos are taken away, the interest isn't very likely to reach as morbid levels as it has in our post-Christian societies.
After all, ancient Greece wasn't a particularly sexually repressive culture, but did their archeological remains display a morbid and unhealthy interest in sex for the most part? No! Instead we found stuff concerning politics, philosophy, science, mathematics etc. etc.
I'll go ahead and quote Alan Moore on this one:
-"Sexually progressive cultures gave us mathematics, literature, philosophy, civilization and the rest, while sexually restrictive cultures gave us the Dark Ages and the Holocaust. Not that I?m trying to load my argument, of course."
So one has to ask oneself, what kind of a culture do you think that the censorship fanatics try to impose on us all?
It is irrelevant how she was dressed, kids wouldn't be corrupted by any type of clothing or even complete nudity for that matter. END of story...Kortney said:
Ummmmmm, it's low cut. So are many t-shirts and tops girls wear nowadays. It's not a big deal. Also, there was nothing risque or sexual about her appearance on the show. She dressed in a normal fashion similar to many other young women, and sung with Elmo. She sang a song that has few, if any, sexual themes or anything, and indeed is heard often by children of all ages and gets plenty of air time on the radio, where kids can hear it. She's basically doing something that is not offensive in any way whatsoever, for the purpose of, in her own words, "reliving her childhood".
So on that note, I disagree with the parents' complaints, and I disagree with the producers' decision to not show the episode. Which is, you know, them caving to unwarranted pressure, by the way. This is the exact reason why I think all so-called 'moral guardians' are, in fact, total idiots...
So on that note, I disagree with the parents' complaints, and I disagree with the producers' decision to not show the episode. Which is, you know, them caving to unwarranted pressure, by the way. This is the exact reason why I think all so-called 'moral guardians' are, in fact, total idiots...
Children are extremely curious about these things. They don't need a sex drive to act inappropriately.Housebroken Lunatic said:
We don't let kindergarten teachers dress like that. Perry, whether she likes it or not, is in a position of education through her role on Sesame Street and shouldn't be dressed like that. It's called professionalism. What she was wearing was out of place for an education television program aimed at small children.
Yeah I can actually see that happening. I mean once you get down to it sex is just hyped up as hell. Sure it's fun, but when you spend half your childhood waiting for it like it's some momentous event you're going to want to get in as soon as possible, and it becomes some sort of status symbol, like "I've had sex this many times, I'm the most popular".Housebroken Lunatic said:
I don't think you could ever get rid of that hype completely, but having a more open attitude definitely helps. Personally I was bought up with a more open attitude to this stuff, and I've been more concerned about finding a loving partner that I can enjoy spending time with, sex is just a fun by-product :3
Pariah as a child watching this- "Yay, Elmo is singing with that woman who's always on the radio, yay Elmo!"
Pariah now - "Yay Katy Perry, yay Katy Perry, yay Katy Perry...would someone fuck that puppet off it's distracting me from Katy Perry!"
Adults get offended by this kind of stuff and think it's bad for children because they see it through an adults eyes, forgetting children see everything so very differently. What I don't understand is why they see sex as so dangerous. They must've had it, they have children for crying out loud, so they must know it's an enjoyable practice.
Granted I wouldn't want my 3-5 year old children if I had them watching amateur gangbang footage or any type of actual pornography, but in this instance kids of either gender will be more focussed on the puppets than they will be on KPs puppies.
Pariah now - "Yay Katy Perry, yay Katy Perry, yay Katy Perry...would someone fuck that puppet off it's distracting me from Katy Perry!"
Adults get offended by this kind of stuff and think it's bad for children because they see it through an adults eyes, forgetting children see everything so very differently. What I don't understand is why they see sex as so dangerous. They must've had it, they have children for crying out loud, so they must know it's an enjoyable practice.
Granted I wouldn't want my 3-5 year old children if I had them watching amateur gangbang footage or any type of actual pornography, but in this instance kids of either gender will be more focussed on the puppets than they will be on KPs puppies.
There's a reason I don't like a large portion of the world, it's because they have a problem with literally everything. To know that there are some people who sit in their homes and actually get so mad that they have to write a letter or call in and complain is just enerving. People should calm down and back up their arguments saying something is wrong.