If I read it correctly it was Gore Verbinski who didn't want to make a $80 million dollar film. Levine didn't ask for 200 million.ImSkeletor said:
Ken Levine Says He Killed the BioShock Film
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I would love to see a Bioshock film but this is good. I wouldn't like the see it done half arsed. It needs to be rated 18s, you shouldn't censor it to try and get a larger audience. I'm just not certain if you need $200 million to make a Bioshock film. I know it wouldn't be cheap but still.
Seems to be the case. To be frank though, if the $200 million meant that he wanted to spend as much money on actual proper decors and real costumes and props and make them look amazing then; holy crap yes please. If he still wanted to use insane amounts of CGI then; no thank you $200 mil is insane.ImSkeletor said:
That and I thank Verbinski for really wanting an R-rated movie. That too a BioShock movie would need.
To my mind they've almost NEVER done a straight plot adaptation, with maybe Mortal Kombat coming closest. Even Silent Hill changed up a bunch of stuff like having a female main character, throwing in Pyramid Head even though the plot's based on the first game, etc.rhizhim said:you bastards!
anyways, its actually quite good.
the twist wouldnt affect the consumer as much as it did in the game when he would indulge it as a movie.(also the twist is a smart bashing on the gamers....)
and you all KNOW that they always try to copy paste the story of the most successful game to the screens.
and please think about it. what had a great story in a video game but turned to shit when it was adapted to the movie screens?
-snipped poster of PoP movie-
yeah. let this sink into your minds for a bit.
I'm really glad to have read this. If only others would have said "no" in the past, we could have avoided so many embarrassing moments in "game-to-movie" history. I will just mention... the Mario Brothers movie, Blood Rayne, Hit Man, Max Payne, Mortal Kombat and so many others just to refresh some memories.
...and please no Deus Ex movie.
...and please no Deus Ex movie.
I agree with him in this. It makes perfect sense to not make a movie rather than have a shit version made. That said, this just shows Ken's psychosis as a massive control freak even more than people are willing to admit. I don't really have much respect for the guy, he is too controlling to the point of wanting to dictate how people view his characters. He wants to dictate what you think and what you feel about them, which makes him a broken man. But I agree with him on this because the last thing I want to see is another lousy videogame adaption.
Well, it's good he got his project out of there before it fell into the hands of Uwe Boll!
And not that I knew or remember anything about this project but while I would have been interested I don't think I'd have liked the outcome considering the history of these things.
And not that I knew or remember anything about this project but while I would have been interested I don't think I'd have liked the outcome considering the history of these things.
ehh... probably a good thing it was killed. I mean I suppose if you go at from the right direction you might be able to pull off a decent script, but I don't see why you'd want to. Bioshock was basically System Shock 2. Those two games are games as in the plots work pretty much solely because they exist in the framework of a videogame.
I just don't see why everything needs to become a movie. Don't most movies suck nowadays? Isn't Hollywood always getting flak for being stale and unoriginal relying on reboots of stuff?
I just don't see why everything needs to become a movie. Don't most movies suck nowadays? Isn't Hollywood always getting flak for being stale and unoriginal relying on reboots of stuff?
The recently released 'Jack the Giant Slayer' cost around $190 mil and that movie looks like it was made with a combination of CGI from a high-school digital arts class and cardboard. By that metric, to bring the entirety of Rapture into being with any quality I think $200 million is reasonable.Cowabungaa said:
On the other hand LOTR: The Two Towers cost $94 million despite outfitting enough extras for helm's deep with actual armour and flying them all to New Zealand.
My bottom line is I'd rather it be cancelled than turn into a demonstration of mediocrity along the lines of Silent Hill or Resident Evil.
I've never played the game, but I agree with his decision. If the people funding the game don't have faith in it, it's better to pull the plug now rather than waste money to produce something they aren't willing to do right. Because if you fuck it up, nobody's going to go see it and it will be a huge loss.
I'd say Levine made the right move. While I think the concept and appearance of Rapture could be depicted incredibly in film I can't say an adaption of the actual events of Bioshock would turn out all that well. Especially if the expense is $200 million, holy shit.
The world is probably better for this.
The world is probably better for this.
Actually Bioshock is a short enough game, and dependant on a scant handfull of plot points, where I think it would be one of the better properties to adapt to a movie.LazyAza said:
From the way this sounds to me is that it's a bunch of clashing egos, where the people involved wanted to do it because it was a big project, rather than really liking the material. I know movies are expensive, but when I hear 200 million dollars as a budget to make this, that seems like overkill. 80 million seems like a reasonable sum, but people wanted to drop out of the project for that amount of money.
To put things into perspective, I don't think Bioshock really involves much that would be that expensive to do (allowing for the huge budget we're already talking about). Looking at TV shows like "Sanctuary" on Sci-Fi and what
they managed to do with Green Screen for some rather elaborate retero backrounds in pretty much every episode, it doesn't seem like making Rapture would be that hard. At the end of the day the Splicers are just fairly ugly humans at this point, and FX of people shooting guns and even throwing fire are relatively trivial. People have made decent looking Big Daddy costumes (shown on video) on a shoestring, to the point where it hardly seems to break the bank, and being a movie it's not like we're going to see 20 or 30 seperate fight scenes with them like with the video game.
The point here is that 80 million seems like a pretty good budget for doing this movie, as I've seen some solid work done for a lot less.
My own personal brand of cynicism makes me think that the guys wanting to do this movie probably wanted to pay themselves elaborate amounts of money just as "idea guys" just sitting around. Going from 200 mil to 80 mil basically meant a lot less money to poach for their pockets since what they got would have to be used on the movie. It may or may not be true, but I wouldn't be surprised if the original director (who is a fairly big name) hoped to like pocket 20 or 30 million one way or another, and figured that if he couldn't do that here, he'd go to another project that would let him do that. I've occasionally been scandalized in checking on some movies and finding out who got paid what, and what they actually did.
In the end chances are we'll see a Bioshock movie only if we wind up with a group of people who really want to make the movie, as opposed to simply using it as an excuse to line their pockets. Making a profit will always be involved of course but there is an extent to everything. Saying you couldn't make a movie for which the biggest FX are pretty much going to be an antique diving suit with an oversized drill on one arm for 80 million is just bloody sad.