Kid Becomes "Little Zangief" in Response to Bullying

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danpascooch said:
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Dango said:
So we're celebrating and praising a kid for pile-driving a smaller kid into the ground?
No. We are praising self-defense. Notice that after a bully got thrown on the ground, that kid just walked away, while he could beat him up some more. I respect him for that.
Still, he could have killed the kid if he had dropped him on his head. Responding to a violent person with more violence is natural, but it's not necessary. If Casey didn't retaliate and the video made it onto the internet, then the bully would have no doubt been expelled and his friends suspended.
you were never bullied were you?
if you were you would know that this does NOT stop till you make them. the system in place doesnt work these kids would probily have said he started it and the teachers would have beleaved them due to the fact there are more of them.
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Alright no, this is not alright.

We all want to stand up to bullies, and a good punch to the face would have been great, but this could have literally killed the guy if he landed just a little bit differently.

It is sheer luck this didn't become a story about a murder, so no, it's not alright, I sympathize with the kid, and I do think he should have retaliated, but we shouldn't be praising him for using force that could have easily been lethal.
i aggree that this could have gone bad but if he had killed the prick (and yes he is a prick) it would have been manslauter in self defense. Now if this would of happened it would of been tragic that a kid who was bullied killed someone when he didnt mean to but to be fair had it happened it was his own fault and while tragic would have been fully suported by my slef and most people i know.
So bullying means you deserve to get murdered? You'd support murder in response to bullying? Seriously?

I get that capital punishment is a hot debate recently, but capital punishment for schoolyard bullying isn't a debate that anyone is having.

I think you need to get your priorities straight, do you want to live in a world where someone is justified to murder a school bully?
It would certainly cut down on the bullying.
Yeah, murder tends to cut down a lot of things, except maybe the amount of weeping family members, and the amount of murderers.
Eventually there is no one left to cry.
 

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hate speech, all because a kid stood up to a bully!?... ah fuck you man fuck you... and preemptively in case this hits the band wagon... screw you too
 

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When I was younger I learned real quick, this is how you deal with bullies, you may get in trouble but I guess thats why I spent 4th-8th grade in detention every other day because i wouldn't take shit from bullies and wouldn't let bullies mess with any of my friends either...

Its surprising how quickly they learn to stay away after you break a finger or two...every time they try to brutalize you
 

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Just saw the interview with the bully on close up here in NZ. Turns out the kid has an eyebrow piercing and he was attacked by casey before the video started. Dumbs**t also refused to apologise ON NATIONAL TELEVISION. I don't think anyone would support the kid. Facebook discussion ongoing: http://www.facebook.com/closeup/posts/10150130984952268
 

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Eico, what confuses me more about your posts rather than your seeming unawareness of the situation is how quickly you disregard the backlash of bullying. So as a new member I'll ask:

What do you feel bullying can do to someone?
 

gypsyroad

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There's already been enough said about how Casey did the right thing.
I wish to comment on those who seem to think Casey could have handled it better and to add to this discussion.

Yes, when you watch the video, you can make judgments on how he could have done this or that instead of slamming the twerp to the ground, however life doesn't work that way.

In situations like this one, you have about one full second to decide what to do, and Casey did exactly what he should have done, which is defend himself.
Considering all the abuse he took, then walking away after he defused the situation proves right there he had the state of mind to control his adrenalin and not pound the hell out of the kid, which took a lot of restraint on his part, you can clearly see him look down at the other kid, with pure anger in his eyes and did not further act on it, he left.

It pretty disturbing to read comments on how Casey could have hurt the lil wanna be gangster by the slamming of him, but wheres the concern for Casey and the possibility of loosing an eye over being punched?

Casey clearly did not start the fight, and turned the other cheek, yet the punk kept right on hitting him, and if the bully would have gotten hurt far worse then just a bruised knee and his pride, he brought it upon himself and deserved every bit of what did and/or could have else happened.

Just how much abuse should one take before they should be allowed to fight back and defend themselves?
Go tell someone, then eventually end up in the same situation again?

I was bullied and know what that is like, telling makes it worse, walking away from them makes it worse.
As much as I hate violence, the only way to fully stop being bullied, is to defend yourself.
 

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I agree with you mostly entirely. In the smallest possible event Casey did manage to kill Richard then it'd have been unfortunate and we'd all bitterly be in favour of Richard.

Notwithstanding that, some reports from locals around the school say (unsurprisingly) that many of the kids can be seen fighting and arguing outside the school and on peoples' front lawns. The school appears to be as any other self righteous school, with little care for its community, but rather what goes on along the dotted line - no further.

Could Casey have handled the situation better? I'll wager yes. There is a slim chance that he could have more effectively - with less display - floored Richard. That's about it. Could he have handled it worse? Yes. He could have been the aggressor in the first instance, encouraged a show which made Richard out to be the bully, premeditated the whole performance and done some REAL harm for the sake of ego and status.

But now I feel like this old horse has been beaten black and blue and I for one am stopping.
 

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I just found out about this, so its not quite a dead horse to me, lol
I will say one last thing about it because its just how I am and then I am done.

I watched both interviews, one of the bully and one of Casey, just now.

I can not believe they even put the garbage that the bully and his dad said on TV,
They both are clearly lying through their teeth about this whole thing.

Ritchard got what he deserved and I am glad for Casey's sake, he did not severally injure him with the body slam, and after watching the display from Ritchard on his TV interview, I feel no remorse for him at all, I do not care how young he is, he is old enough to know right from wrong and is a punk.

Ritchard did not learn his lesson from all of this, and I truly believe that this is far from being over with.
In my opinion, because the whole world is against Ritchard and calling Casey a hero, I feel Ritchard is going to eventually do something horrible out of revenge to try and make things right with himself and to gain the attention that Casey is receiving.
I do not hope for it to happens, and Ritchard just gets over it and learns from it though.
However, giving the fake attitude his father showed, that wont happen.

I just hope that the child services seen that interview and steps in before its too late.
 

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Matt_LRR said:
It is impossible to condone the pile-driver, especially since he came within about an inch of dropping the bully straight on his head and killing him, but it's equally impossible not to side with casey for striking back in a definitive way.

bully got schooled, bully deserved to get schooled. Im just really glad no one was seriously hurt, because it could easily have gone terribly wrong, and casey would undoubtely be facing charges if it had.

-m
I wouldn't even have cared if he did kill the little shit (except for that he may have well been brought up on charges, which would be bullshit in it's own right). I got no cause for people like that, and don't give me the "well he's just young" crap. People like that are a dredge to society. Plus it's very easy to condone the body slam. I wasn't done out of malice but merely retaliation, a defensive move if you will.
 

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Shotgunjack1880 said:
Matt_LRR said:
It is impossible to condone the pile-driver, especially since he came within about an inch of dropping the bully straight on his head and killing him, but it's equally impossible not to side with casey for striking back in a definitive way.

bully got schooled, bully deserved to get schooled. Im just really glad no one was seriously hurt, because it could easily have gone terribly wrong, and casey would undoubtely be facing charges if it had.

-m
I wouldn't even have cared if he did kill the little shit (except for that he may have well been brought up on charges, which would be bullshit in it's own right). I got no cause for people like that, and don't give me the "well he's just young" crap. People like that are a dredge to society. Plus it's very easy to condone the body slam. I wasn't done out of malice but merely retaliation, a defensive move if you will.

I agree with part about the little shit being a dredge to society.
Yes he is only doing what he is taught by his parents and is being raised incorrectly, however he still has his own mind and knew damn well what he was doing, bullying people.

After everything that has happened, he still goes on TV and behaves like the punk he is and the only thing he learned was what it felt like to be slammed.

He showed no remorse for his actions what so ever on TV and did not even want to apologize until his father said something.
The guy doing the interview knew what was going on the whole time too.

The fact that the father claimed he had no idea his son was a bully further shows just how fake the whole family acted about this.
Not one time did any of them show any concerns for Casey and what he was going through up until that day he finally stood up for himself, all they did was try to change the whole thing around and make themselves look like the victims.

That incident was clearly set up by the bully and his friends and there is no way that Casey bullied him right before the video started as they claim, that kid had no problems showing off to his friends had no fear of Corey and it showed that he obviously did it to him many many times.

Hell when he was asked during the interview about it, he couldn't even keep a straight face when saying he never bullied him before.

The only person a feel bad for is Corey, because I almost would bet my life that punk will probably come after him again with a weapon this time, and most likely hit him from behind.

I suppose time will tell, how this plays out.
 

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gypsyroad said:
Shotgunjack1880 said:
Matt_LRR said:
It is impossible to condone the pile-driver, especially since he came within about an inch of dropping the bully straight on his head and killing him, but it's equally impossible not to side with casey for striking back in a definitive way.

bully got schooled, bully deserved to get schooled. Im just really glad no one was seriously hurt, because it could easily have gone terribly wrong, and casey would undoubtely be facing charges if it had.

-m
I wouldn't even have cared if he did kill the little shit (except for that he may have well been brought up on charges, which would be bullshit in it's own right). I got no cause for people like that, and don't give me the "well he's just young" crap. People like that are a dredge to society. Plus it's very easy to condone the body slam. I wasn't done out of malice but merely retaliation, a defensive move if you will.

I agree with part about the little shit being a dredge to society.
Yes he is only doing what he is taught by his parents and is being raised incorrectly, however he still has his own mind and knew damn well what he was doing, bullying people.

After everything that has happened, he still goes on TV and behaves like the punk he is and the only thing he learned was what it felt like to be slammed.

He showed no remorse for his actions what so ever on TV and did not even want to apologize until his father said something.
The guy doing the interview knew what was going on the whole time too.

The fact that the father claimed he had no idea his son was a bully further shows just how fake the whole family acted about this.
Not one time did any of them show any concerns for Casey and what he was going through up until that day he finally stood up for himself, all they did was try to change the whole thing around and make themselves look like the victims.

That incident was clearly set up by the bully and his friends and there is no way that Casey bullied him right before the video started as they claim, that kid had no problems showing off to his friends had no fear of Corey and it showed that he obviously did it to him many many times.

Hell when he was asked during the interview about it, he couldn't even keep a straight face when saying he never bullied him before.

The only person a feel bad for is Corey, because I almost would bet my life that punk will probably come after him again with a weapon this time, and most likely hit him from behind.

I suppose time will tell, how this plays out.
Thats why you need to kill/paralyze/completely neutralize people like that. Then they can't come back at ya, and if any of their buddies try it you do the same thing to them.

So what if it escalates, starting to sound like a damn good time to me. lol. Nothing like a good brawl to get the day started.
 

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Matt_LRR said:
I have to side with penny-arcade [http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/3/18/] on this one.

It is impossible to condone the pile-driver, especially since he came within about an inch of dropping the bully straight on his head and killing him, but it's equally impossible not to side with casey for striking back in a definitive way.

bully got schooled, bully deserved to get schooled. Im just really glad no one was seriously hurt, because it could easily have gone terribly wrong, and casey would undoubtely be facing charges if it had.

-m
Not gonna lie. That Comic made me tear up a bit :D Hehehe

I think that's kinda the reason I enjoyed it so much. Not because of the brutality (Well maybe a little bit) but because the kid was alright and obviously learned his lesson not to mess with Casey.
 

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Celtic_Kerr said:
Wait? his mother doesn't want a video of her son picking on a MUCH larger kid posted everywhere so the BULLIED kid should apologize?

Ahem.... FUCK YOU WOMAN! The world doesn't always work the way you want it to, and don't forget that YOUR kid was the little shit that was picking on others. Your kid doesn't deserve an apology, he doesn't deserve anything of the sort
As quoted and twisted from ICP a bit.

"Water, Fire, Air and Dirt, FUCKING LOGIC! How does that work!?!"

Seriously it's a no brainer....literally that mother is a no brainer.
 

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Why do so many people who say they sympathise with Casey, because they've also been singled out at school for being different, mention his weight when they discuss this? He mentions that he'd been bullied his entire school life about his weight, so why do they bring up his size in discussions. I mean, regardless of how supportive the article on Encyclopedia Dramaticca was, they repeatedly called him a 'chubster' several times - which is just plain rude.

Considering he picked up someone and threw them in to concrete, I'd say a little respect wouldn't go amiss internet.
 

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Nimzar said:
Actually the mother wants HER son (the bully) to apologize.

News linky: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8225229/bullys-mum-speaks-out-over-filmed-incident

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/bullied-boy-at-chifley-college-dunheved-campus-suspended-after-fighting-back/story-e6freuzi-1226023526921
Wait I'm confussed i saw that video before, i thought it was the little kid being bullied and the big one who was the bully.
 

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Bullying is a very real problem in schools. There is a tried and proved anti-bullying program called the Alweus program that can be very effective in stopping this kind of thing from happening. Of course it costs $$ to train school staff and time from other curricula to implement it at the schools Cuts to education are only going to make bullying more prevalent.