Kill La Kill Episode 18 Discussion

[Dyan]

Saw there wasn't a topic of this yet so I decided to make one myslef.

OT: Let me be the first to say "I fucking called it!", it'll be interesting to see where the show takes this new devolepment. Also Nui getting wrecked was the most satisfying thing I've seen in months. God I don't remember the last time I've hated a fictional character as much as her.

 

[Scarim Coral]

Yeah I should of seen it coming or at least see the connection sooner (both Ryuko and Ragyo have another hair colour at the inner part of their hairs and also we never got a good explaination and apaperance of Ryuko mother other than supposely passed away when given birth to her).
I'm going to predict that the elite 4 will recused Satsuki and also Ryuko and/ or Satsuki will somehow retake Satsuki Kamui from Ragyo. Also Ryuko will probably somehow trained Satsuki to be synced with her kamui somehow.

 

[Fappy]

I think a lot of us called it XD

Even the still, the reveal was fucking awesome! I have a feeling we may see character deaths soon. I would be surprised if one or more of the Elite Four die in the next episode. Also, considering her abilities now, I agree with Scarim that Satsuki may learn to use Senketsu and Ryuko may just go "nude".

 

[Zak757]

I just loved how they used the line "Fear is freedom! Control is liberty! Contradiction is truth!" It's a quote from George Orwell's 1984, which was used both at the start of episode 1 and episode 18. It's associated with the idea of "doublespeak" or "doublethink." What impressed me is how they managed to make this line mean completely two different things, it's doublespeak on a meta level!

The first time you hear it, the show is basically saying "this society is fascist, and Satsuki is obviously the evil overlord villain of the show!" The second time you hear it, now that the audience has full context on the situation, it means almost the exact opposite. It perfectly describes and justifies Satsuki's actions so far, and sets her up as the hero of the story! Good job on that Trigger.

Best episode yet. Holy shit, there was more shock and awe in this one episode than most series have in their entire runs. Watching Satsuki, who has planned this day since she was only 5 years old, get beaten to a bruised and bloody pulp was extremely hard to watch. You could see that Ragyo was getting off on beating the shit out of her daughter, and just before taking back Junketsu, she just HAD to do one more bad touch (in public) to further humiliate her. You may have noticed that when Ragyo through Satsuki into the concrete walls, the scene was shot and framed in the EXACT same way as the part in episode 1 where that No Star thief got thrown into the wall by Gamagoori. How the mighty have fallen... I'd also like to point out: Junketsu means Purity, and Ragyo stole Junketsu from Satsuki. Yeah.

The sister reveal was kinda-sorta predictable, but as always, the execution was fantastic. Seeing Ryuuko being experimented on as a newborn child, only to "die" (apparently not) and get thrown in the trash was shocking. This show is getting to Spec Ops: The Line levels of "art isn't always comfortable." Hopefully Ragyo doesn't do... Ragyo things to her next episode. I really hope not. She is the worst parent I can think of, even compared to Gendo/Yui Ikari or Medusa. Also, Ragyo stealing Ryuuko's heart on Valentines Day? Oh lawd, Trigger.

I counted no more than FIVE Metal Gear Rising visual references. MGR in my KLK? Two of my favorite things!

 

[[Kira Must Die]]

First Christmas, now Valentine's Day, the guys at Trigger sure knows how to give us a, um, memorable holiday.

While I did see the idea pop up in forums and such, I didn't really think that would actually be the case, and the actual reveal was great. Other than that, though, Ragyo is proving to be one fucked-up *****. First diddling her daughter, and now killing her own new born baby and using her as a test subject (Well, the baby didn't die, but she didn't know that. She still attempted to kill her without a care in the world.) With six episodes still left, how much more can they possibly throw at us?!

Also, am I the only one kinda grossed out with Ragyo wearing Junketsu. Not so much when she transforms, oddly enough I thought that looked fine, but when it's in it's dormant, uniform state, it's like if you were to catch your mom wearing your school uniform. It's... kinda unsettling to me.

 

[Zak757]

Also, I think I've predicted what is going to happen in episode 19.

"It's Always Raining at the End of the Road" is the name of the next episode. It's raining throughout the entire preview. Below is a screenshot from the episode 19 preview, and some of the lyrics from the soundtrack.

Here is how sad the song sounds. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYud0Vm48gg]

In episode 12, he was quoted as saying "until I settle my score with Matoi, I cannot possibly die." Note that he has by far the worst luck in the entire show, and that we haven't had a major character death yet despite how increasingly dark the story is getting.

Seeya, Uzu.

 

[Weaver]

I just loved how they used the line "Fear is freedom! Control is liberty! Contradiction is truth!" It's a quote from George Orwell's 1984, which was used both at the start of episode 1 and episode 18.

Well, it's not actually a quote from 1984 persey; but I think it's clearly a reference/nod to it.

The original ministry of truth slogan is:
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

 

[Yuuki]

The scene of the baby being discarded was pretty shocking...but then I'm a little confused as to how Ryuko's dad ended up with Ragyo. Was it after she killed off Satsuki's dad?

 

[Dyan]

The scene of the baby being discarded was pretty shocking...but then I'm a little confused as to how Ryuko's dad ended up with Ragyo. Was it after she killed off Satsuki's dad?

Ryuko's dad and Satsuki's dad are the same person, at least that's how I understood it. Maybe Ol' Isshin was just a friend and who adopted Ryuko? Who knows.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Seeya, Uzu.

Actually, I recall a twitter post made by Trigger ages ago where they point blank confirmed none of the Elite 4 die.

They also said the Elite 4 would remain relevant the entire show, and they said Ryuko would rematch them before the show ends, and that she will challenge their philosophies this time around.

 

[Sean Hollyman]

My mouth was hanging open throughout the entire episode. I mean I pretty much saw it coming, but I was still like OMGWTF HOLY SHIT. Seeing Ragyo wear Junketsu is just disgusting. I hope Ryuko gets both halves of the Scissors and kills the shit out of her.

 

[Yuuki]

Ryuko's dad and Satsuki's dad are the same person, at least that's how I understood it.

But...they look nothing alike -_-

Maybe Ol' Isshin was just a friend and who adopted Ryuko? Who knows.

That's sounding more likely.

I hope Ryuko gets both halves of the Scissors and kills the shit out of her.

Knowing this show, I don't think even the combined scissors will be enough

DON'T LOSE YOUR WAAAAAAAAAAAY