Killzone 2
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...what??MrBrightside919 said:
He did bring up a few valid points. As for nothing compelling you to finish the story, that's basically Halo 3 in a nutshell to me.
It's a bad game. The OP is right.
The story falls short and while it may have had an unexpected twist, I wouldn't know because the entire experience left me without the courage to even finish the game.
Your character is bland, your teammates have no significant personalities whatsoever and the missions were uninspiring. They gave me no incentive to even care for what I was doing. Sure, you're fighting a war, very sad, very tragic, very -oh whatever! The Helghast at least were cool and that's about the only positive thing I can find for this awfully over hyped game.
I tried to comfort myself with the idea that at least multiplayer was going to be fun, except that it wasn't.
All the elements were there, but the execution was flawed. And bad. And illogic. No, bullets don't linger in the air for several seconds so that the dude I just killed, also magically becomes my killer : /
Killzone, I hates yooooou!
The story falls short and while it may have had an unexpected twist, I wouldn't know because the entire experience left me without the courage to even finish the game.
Your character is bland, your teammates have no significant personalities whatsoever and the missions were uninspiring. They gave me no incentive to even care for what I was doing. Sure, you're fighting a war, very sad, very tragic, very -oh whatever! The Helghast at least were cool and that's about the only positive thing I can find for this awfully over hyped game.
I tried to comfort myself with the idea that at least multiplayer was going to be fun, except that it wasn't.
All the elements were there, but the execution was flawed. And bad. And illogic. No, bullets don't linger in the air for several seconds so that the dude I just killed, also magically becomes my killer : /
Killzone, I hates yooooou!
I must have missed the part where I stated this was a review.Danzorz said:
Also, "sentance" isn't a word. Don't criticize people for something you do not master yourself. I am not English, but I try. And I know "reveiws" isn't the correct spelling either. Eh.. the amount of bad criticisms.. It's going up.
The review is merely ok. Most of the criticism you've gathered is warrented... and going after those who criticize you is hardly the way to make them go away, especially when they have a point. Your review feels rushed, more like a summary of a review than the whole thing. It needs more examples, more details, to truly come to life.
Also, you use the word "generic" a few too many times. Mix it up a little! What about middling, average, run-of-the-mill, the same as ever other, meh, and other such words/phrases?
Also, you use the word "generic" a few too many times. Mix it up a little! What about middling, average, run-of-the-mill, the same as ever other, meh, and other such words/phrases?
Don't be so petty, please?
I agreed with the OP, I even stated why I consider it a bad game. If you have an issue with the reasons I provided, then call me on those and I'll happily go into detail why I agree or disagree with you.
But if this is how we generally do things on the escapist, I'll make sure to attack people directly for things irrelevant to the subject just because I don't agree with their opinions.
I agreed with the OP, I even stated why I consider it a bad game. If you have an issue with the reasons I provided, then call me on those and I'll happily go into detail why I agree or disagree with you.
But if this is how we generally do things on the escapist, I'll make sure to attack people directly for things irrelevant to the subject just because I don't agree with their opinions.
A detailed reason why I think the game is a huge let-down, or a detailed reason why I think you're petty?
I had no intention of writing a review. I have played the game and it did nothing to convince me of its possible qualities. I stated this opinion. I wasn't aware that automatically turns it into a troll rant. But then again, apparently everything is a troll rant these days.
I also have yet to see anyone state any "detailed reasons" why this is a good game. It's odd how when you're negative about something, you have to provide profound and extremely detailed reasons, but when you think it's okay or better, reasons no longer matter.
But as you wish.
When you develop a game and claim it to be the next best thing since sliced bread (well, maybe not, but if the ps3 had sliced bread, I'm sure this comparison would hold true), you tend to create certain expectations with your target buyers. Expectations that, in my humble opinion, you need to try and meet.
Killzone 2 did that to some level. Graphic wise we can hardly expect more. It shows what the developers are capable of and that the playstation 3 system can handle awesome looking stuff.
But pretty looks don't make a good package when said package lacks quality content.
When it comes to gameplay, Killzone 2 does NOTHING special. You run and gun, duck, die, activate some buttons, see some things happen. Am I wrong to expect something more? Maybe, it is a shooter, it does what shooters do. But this is THE shooter for the ps3. Where are the little details? Where are the special bits?
Yeah, the (let's call them) mini-bosses are kinda fun. At least they require you to do something other than plug them with endless amounts of bullets. But other than that? Nothing. The enemies don't do anything unexpected. They hide and shoot until they're bored and pop their head out of cover to find it is suddenly gone. Or they do it to you.
But you get a team! Oh, yay, a team that prefers to keep you from advancing until you're fed up with them and decide to do everything yourself. Or they die at the worst possible moments and you need to go get them out of that hail of bullets. I'm sorry? They joined the army before "cover" was invented? Why can't I turn my revive-paddle into a death ray thing? And to make matters worse, they're still calling the shots. THEY tell YOU what to do. Why do I have to listen to suicidal maniacs?
Besides being rather useless in the heat of battle, they're also pretty useless as persons. At no point during the game I felt compelled to sympathize with them. I don't need a happy bunch, I don't mind if the characters I need to work with have despicable attitudes or act holier than thou, as long as they bring some sort of personality to the table that that makes you care for what happens with them during the story. With these.. I got nothing. They live? Fine, whatever. They die? Okay then! I'm sure their npc mother will shed a tear somewhere.
It's something I can put past me. They're not the protagonist. I am! I'm important. Look at me! I'm the awesome hero! I'm.. confused. I appear to be another soulless marine I have the hardest time connecting with. But how can this be! They gave me a name! Then I must be really important in the story.. But I am not. That kinda breaks immersion alot, doesn't it?
To make matters worse, throughout the entire game, I kept thinking "Man, I wish I were Helghast. At least they have cool suits and a kick-ass general. I hope they win this war." I thought something must have gone very wrong the moment I started rooting for the enemy.
No notable characters, no out of the ordinary gameplay mechanics... maybe it has some engaging story-driven missions to keep me going then?
NO!
I remember having to go miles around just to go set explosives in a building that was occupied with enemy forces that stopped or convoy or something. To set my explosive charges, I first had to clear the entire building, place my charges, get to a safe spot outside and make it go boom. Wooh, nice explosions! That NOW EMPTY building sure got what it deserved! Maybe we should consider bringing some.. ooh.. I don't know..bazookas next time. Or a tank. How about a tank? I heard they're really good for protecting convoys and clearing annoying occupied buildings. More so than two infantry men! But hey, I'm just a lousy marine that needs to take orders from his suicidal squad. My opinion doesn't count.
Let's proceed and take out those anti-air defenses our strikecraft can't seem to get around. I can see how they are an obstacle for our futuristic space/air force, given their amazing rate of fire...
It all seems suspiciously like creating objectives for the sake of having objectives, regardless whether or not they make sense or bring any additional value to the story. I lacked a serious sense of purpose.
And it left me confused as to what my real role in this war was. Special forces? A grunt? Cannon fodder? I wouldn't care less as long as they picked one and stuck with it.
All in all, I expected a lot more from this game. Different sorts of epic, I suppose. This one did not satisfy my hunger for a good shooter and given the fact that there are some amazing shooters out there that didn't make such a fuss about their own greatness... I think I can safely say this game is a disappointment at best.
Now, where did I leave my "REJECTED" stamp...
Questions?
I had no intention of writing a review. I have played the game and it did nothing to convince me of its possible qualities. I stated this opinion. I wasn't aware that automatically turns it into a troll rant. But then again, apparently everything is a troll rant these days.
I also have yet to see anyone state any "detailed reasons" why this is a good game. It's odd how when you're negative about something, you have to provide profound and extremely detailed reasons, but when you think it's okay or better, reasons no longer matter.
But as you wish.
When you develop a game and claim it to be the next best thing since sliced bread (well, maybe not, but if the ps3 had sliced bread, I'm sure this comparison would hold true), you tend to create certain expectations with your target buyers. Expectations that, in my humble opinion, you need to try and meet.
Killzone 2 did that to some level. Graphic wise we can hardly expect more. It shows what the developers are capable of and that the playstation 3 system can handle awesome looking stuff.
But pretty looks don't make a good package when said package lacks quality content.
When it comes to gameplay, Killzone 2 does NOTHING special. You run and gun, duck, die, activate some buttons, see some things happen. Am I wrong to expect something more? Maybe, it is a shooter, it does what shooters do. But this is THE shooter for the ps3. Where are the little details? Where are the special bits?
Yeah, the (let's call them) mini-bosses are kinda fun. At least they require you to do something other than plug them with endless amounts of bullets. But other than that? Nothing. The enemies don't do anything unexpected. They hide and shoot until they're bored and pop their head out of cover to find it is suddenly gone. Or they do it to you.
But you get a team! Oh, yay, a team that prefers to keep you from advancing until you're fed up with them and decide to do everything yourself. Or they die at the worst possible moments and you need to go get them out of that hail of bullets. I'm sorry? They joined the army before "cover" was invented? Why can't I turn my revive-paddle into a death ray thing? And to make matters worse, they're still calling the shots. THEY tell YOU what to do. Why do I have to listen to suicidal maniacs?
Besides being rather useless in the heat of battle, they're also pretty useless as persons. At no point during the game I felt compelled to sympathize with them. I don't need a happy bunch, I don't mind if the characters I need to work with have despicable attitudes or act holier than thou, as long as they bring some sort of personality to the table that that makes you care for what happens with them during the story. With these.. I got nothing. They live? Fine, whatever. They die? Okay then! I'm sure their npc mother will shed a tear somewhere.
It's something I can put past me. They're not the protagonist. I am! I'm important. Look at me! I'm the awesome hero! I'm.. confused. I appear to be another soulless marine I have the hardest time connecting with. But how can this be! They gave me a name! Then I must be really important in the story.. But I am not. That kinda breaks immersion alot, doesn't it?
To make matters worse, throughout the entire game, I kept thinking "Man, I wish I were Helghast. At least they have cool suits and a kick-ass general. I hope they win this war." I thought something must have gone very wrong the moment I started rooting for the enemy.
No notable characters, no out of the ordinary gameplay mechanics... maybe it has some engaging story-driven missions to keep me going then?
NO!
I remember having to go miles around just to go set explosives in a building that was occupied with enemy forces that stopped or convoy or something. To set my explosive charges, I first had to clear the entire building, place my charges, get to a safe spot outside and make it go boom. Wooh, nice explosions! That NOW EMPTY building sure got what it deserved! Maybe we should consider bringing some.. ooh.. I don't know..bazookas next time. Or a tank. How about a tank? I heard they're really good for protecting convoys and clearing annoying occupied buildings. More so than two infantry men! But hey, I'm just a lousy marine that needs to take orders from his suicidal squad. My opinion doesn't count.
Let's proceed and take out those anti-air defenses our strikecraft can't seem to get around. I can see how they are an obstacle for our futuristic space/air force, given their amazing rate of fire...
It all seems suspiciously like creating objectives for the sake of having objectives, regardless whether or not they make sense or bring any additional value to the story. I lacked a serious sense of purpose.
And it left me confused as to what my real role in this war was. Special forces? A grunt? Cannon fodder? I wouldn't care less as long as they picked one and stuck with it.
All in all, I expected a lot more from this game. Different sorts of epic, I suppose. This one did not satisfy my hunger for a good shooter and given the fact that there are some amazing shooters out there that didn't make such a fuss about their own greatness... I think I can safely say this game is a disappointment at best.
Now, where did I leave my "REJECTED" stamp...
Questions?
I enjoyed the game. Sure, it was a generic shooter, but the setpiece battles were fun, well paced and rarely felt unfair apart from
The guns were all loud and actually felt like real guns instead of peashooters, and I especially enjoyed using the electricity cannon about two thirds into the game.
As for the plot, it is fairly standard for the genre, but again I enjoyed it. I don't think an epic Apocalypse Now style storyline would have worked with the type of game they were aiming for. As it was, the plot kept me playing enough to want to see how it ended, and gave me enough context to enjoy the hell out of killing as many Helghast as possible.
As for graphics, the game is stunning. Animations look realistic, and the levels actually look like war torn cities and landscapes. The sound is equally as great, with notable voice work from Sean Pertwee as the frankly evil Colonel Radec. The guns are all as loud as they need to be and explosions were deafening on my HDTV.
The controls were a bit hard to get used to at first, but it honestly felt good to me to play as someone with weight. It felt like I was an armoured marine, not a floating weightless camera with a gun.
This has gone on way longer than I anticipated to be honest. Feel free to tear it apart now.
the huge palace courtyard battle.
The guns were all loud and actually felt like real guns instead of peashooters, and I especially enjoyed using the electricity cannon about two thirds into the game.
As for the plot, it is fairly standard for the genre, but again I enjoyed it. I don't think an epic Apocalypse Now style storyline would have worked with the type of game they were aiming for. As it was, the plot kept me playing enough to want to see how it ended, and gave me enough context to enjoy the hell out of killing as many Helghast as possible.
As for graphics, the game is stunning. Animations look realistic, and the levels actually look like war torn cities and landscapes. The sound is equally as great, with notable voice work from Sean Pertwee as the frankly evil Colonel Radec. The guns are all as loud as they need to be and explosions were deafening on my HDTV.
The controls were a bit hard to get used to at first, but it honestly felt good to me to play as someone with weight. It felt like I was an armoured marine, not a floating weightless camera with a gun.
This has gone on way longer than I anticipated to be honest. Feel free to tear it apart now.