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axia777 post=9.75228.861026 said:
Jumplion post=9.75228.861001 said:
axia777 post=9.75228.860926 said:
I also hate to disappoint, but the 2005 trailer is proven to be Pre-Rendered. That is a fact. But it is also a fact that through excellent use of resources Guerrilla have proven to be pimp ass mofo's by making in game real-time graphics just about as good as pre-rendered. Now that is a feat unto the gaming gods. KillZone 2 FTW.
I would like some linkage. Either way, I still stand by my statement that if the gameplay footage can look this good I don't understand why the Pre-rendered trailer couldn't be possible in gameplay.
Sure, how silly of me. This is from the E3 2005 section of the Killzone 2 wiki.

E3 2005

At E3 2005, Killzone 2 was debuted with a trailer depicting soldiers landing in a hostile war-zone on Helghan and fighting Helghast forces. Critics in the media argued that the trailer shown at the E3 2005 trade show did not show actual gameplay footage, as its high level of visual detail has been argued to be impossible to render in real-time on the PlayStation 3 and the audio mix of the trailer was slightly delayed. SCEA's Vice President, Jack Tretton, was quoted as saying that the Killzone footage, that was believed to be pre-rendered,"is possibly real" and "is real prerendered gameplay", but it was later claimed that Tretton was referring to Resistance: Fall of Man. Several days after the demo, Phil Harrison, SCEA Europe's VP of development, stated in an interview that all of the PS3 game footages at E3 2005 was "running off video" which was "done to PS3 spec" using "in-game assets" and "some things were rendered".[15] Tim Miller of the CG studio Blur stated in 2006 that they had turned down the offer to create the Killzone 2 clip, and that "a company in Scotland had worked on it".[16]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killzone_2
Obviously some parts of it were CGI or something. But like I said, I stand by my statement.
 

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Killzone was an okay game, really. Be nicer to it. It was Mediocre. It just tried to live up to hype it couldn't really deliver on- a singleplayer only game, with a somewhat weak story. That being said I remember the weapons were particularly satisfying, and the combat both frentic and strategic.
 

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Every preview I've read of this game has called it a poor man's Call of Duty. Also, greyest game ever?

I don't buy many games, and Resistance 2 definitely has priority over this.
 

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implodingMan post=9.75228.861308 said:
Every preview I've read of this game has called it a poor man's Call of Duty. Also, greyest game ever?

I don't buy many games, and Resistance 2 definitely has priority over this.
That's a retarded summary.
 

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It's just impossible for me to get any kind of hyped up over this game. I don't have a PS3 and Killzone 1 kinda sucked.

I've got a 360, so theres a bargain bin full of other first or third person shooters at my disposal. Just, before you get all hyped up, go back and play Killzone 1...
 

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Honestly, the part that got me the most hyped in this trailer was watching one of the Helghast soldiers not just kneeling behind cover, but actually laying and just peeking around the corner with his gun. To see the AI actually find cover opposed to leaving their heads exposed shows a really good challenge coming with this game. I'm definitely excited for it.
 

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Indigo_Dingo post=9.75228.861557 said:
That guy whose making the stirring speech about ceaseless fire and whirlwinds and stuff in the trailer, any idea which side he's on?
Sounds kinda like the Helgast leader from the first game.

sunami88 post=9.75228.861583 said:
It's just impossible for me to get any kind of hyped up over this game. I don't have a PS3 and Killzone 1 kinda sucked.

I've got a 360, so theres a bargain bin full of other first or third person shooters at my disposal. Just, before you get all hyped up, go back and play Killzone 1...
Despite all it's bugs I liked the first one, and this one doesn't look like it's being rushed out the door like the first one was (quite the opposite, in fact. The first CG trailer was released, what, 3 years ago?)

That being said, I don't have a PS3, so I won't be picking this one up, at least for a while. But they definitely get kudos from me for trying to implement a fully first person cover system. And if they pull it off well, then that would just be awesome. I'll have to try to get one of the 2 people I know with PS3's to buy it.
 
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The first Killzone's biggest problem is that someone labelled it a Halo killer; it wasn't. Taken on its own merits it's not that bad a game, just not outstanding.
 

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Also naming a guy "Templar" was a bit silly...And did anyone get a sort of 'Iraq War' Lampshade vibe from that trailer? "In and out in a month they said..."
 

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Thats true, it doesn't really BOTHER me, I just hope it doesn't get preachy and up it's own ass, is all. Moral themes and social commentary is fine, just be intelligent and intuitive about it. Don't slap us with the WAR IZ BAD! trout over and over like certain other gam-*hackcough*mgs*wheeze* eh, what? sorry. Certain other games.
 

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Indigo_Dingo post=9.75228.861682 said:
TsunamiWombat post=9.75228.861673 said:
Thats true, it doesn't really BOTHER me, I just hope it doesn't get preachy and up it's own ass, is all. Moral themes and social commentary is fine, just be intelligent and intuitive about it. Don't slap us with the WAR IZ BAD! trout over and over like certain other gam-*hackcough*mgs*wheeze* eh, what? sorry. Certain other games.
If you wanted to be slightly less controversial you could have said HAZE (I never know the proper punctuation for that title. Its like inFAMOUS)
I wasn't trying to be controversial. You have to admit, MGS4 really hit that button hard, with those women... But yeah, HAZE is probably a much better example of hamfisted social commentary, because it also has crappy gameplay to match.
 

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Worst one for me was the wolf one.

The story I mean. The boss fight was easy once I found the magic truck.
 

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I was one of the few people who genuinely enjoyed the first killzone, so I can't wait for this one. The animations are one of the best things about the game, really awesome.
 

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The original game sucked me in with it's atmosphere and presentation (basically it ripped of Jin-Roh like a ************) then spat me back out with a stodgy engine and bad mechanics. Pretty much all I know about the second game is that they tried to pull a fast one with the trailer.
 

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Aaa killzone, a game that was barely stable. That game was an unwanted child with so many poorly develop mechanics and cast. I truly believe that the only reason the brought Rico back was to try to bridge the two games. It amazing to see how far this game has develop from its' humble roots. None of us who played killzone would think that the game will have a sequel that looks this amazing. With that said it might just be that "halo killer" the first one was meant to be. Killzone 2 seems to made by people who have something to prove. With what I have seen and read it will be place right up there with Resistance and Call of Duty. This may seem like hype to most but give it a rental when it comes out.
 

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Technically speaking, Killzone: Liberation was the sequel to the original PS2 game. It followed just 2 months after the ending of Killzone 1, and included all of the characters (except Hakha, unless you're one of the few that did use the Co-op option). Also, Killzone on the PS2 may have flopped in the ratings area, but the PSP sequel didn't. In fact it remains as one of the top 5 PSP games out there.

Until today, I never heard of this 'first person view cover system'. I'm excited, yet, sketchy. Unless they do this game feature nearly flawlessly, one of the biggest features could be its biggest flaw. I could see a lot bugs and clipping issues to go with this, and all of you know game reviewers are going to nit-pick at it until theres nothing left and completely hate the game for it.

I'm excited for this game, I've had it pre-ordered for what seems like forever..Hope are high on this side.