I like Killzone (despite only owning the first one) but i like the Helghast more than the ISA. I mean the ISA just seem to generic, personally I would rather have a game like oh I dont know "Killzone: The Other Side" or something where you play as a Helghast recruit just being sent into Vekta, Vector, Vanessa, oh I dont know what that planet is called. The point is let us play as the bad guys for once, oh and if you make a game like I just said please make sure you do one thing DONT MAKE THE PROTAGONIST DIE AT THE END!!!. sorry got off topic for a moment. Thoughts???
oh yea and NO RTS' SONY AND NO COVER BASED SHOOTING THAT DOESNT WORK AND KNOW IRON SIGHTS!!!! GO TO KILLZONE1 BECUASE THAT HAD NO IRON SIGHTS OR COVER BASED SHOOTING AND IT WAS ACTUALLY FUN!!!!!
I'd buy it. Never did like the ISA, though like you i only played the first one and i've heard the Helghast get a bit more Nazi-ish so that might make them a bit out of bounds
I've always wanted to play as the Helghast. Be great to play as one and see the twisted side they see. Besides, an army with Rico on their side can't be the good guys.
I'd get it. I have the PS3 releases only, so I don't know about the first one, but they really don't seem bad at all. It's not like they're space nazis, they're just another side of the war.
Common though, playing through the game as a Helghast and ending up fighting Templar or Sev for about a minute before they add you to the mountain of corpses they chaulk up in the series would be pretty funny.
Can't get into it without spoilers, but the game paints them as pretty flipping evil at the last bit of Killzone 2, and they get steadily worse in the third, not just the acts, but the Helghast take on a crueler character in the last one. In the third you get this super-ray-magic gun thing that rips people apart, one guy tests it on an ISA POW to see if it'll work, and another does it to an unarmed man for fun, saying something along the lines of 'shit I love this gun' afterwards.
Are you supposed to like the ISA? I got the impression that it was supposed to be a grey/black morality sort of thing. Though the Helghast are definately the bad guys, what with being Space Nazis, but the ISA aren't exactly leaps and bounds better. That said, in the first game they come off pretty well.
I'd like a Helghast game, if only because they have cooler costumes >_>
I like Killzone (despite only owning the first one) but i like the Helghast more than the ISA. I mean the ISA just seem to generic, personally I would rather have a game like oh I dont know "Killzone: The Other Side" or something where you play as a Helghast recruit just being sent into Vekta, Vector, Vanessa, oh I dont know what that planet is called. The point is let us play as the bad guys for once, oh and if you make a game like I just said please make sure you do one thing DONT MAKE THE PROTAGONIST DIE AT THE END!!!. sorry got off topic for a moment. Thoughts???
The reason they won't ever do that, is the simple fact of what Yahtzee ingeniously pointed out:
I.S.A. = U.S.A with one letter changed. Then there's the makeup of the I.S.A. it's supposedly the entirety of Earth as one nation, but the I.S.A. only seems to have white Americans and a few token black guys and chicks. The girls of course ALSO being white. Then there's the way the I.S.A. treats the war, the I.S.A. runs the Helghast off Earth with their laws and ideals on politics, the Helghast move to the new planet, nearly DIE simply by breathing it's air, and when they finally are able to build a military and send word to Earth to say "don't fuck with us" the I.S.A. take offense to it and start trying to demand the Helghast not trade with Earth in any way, which in more ways than one FORCED the Helghast to declare war.
You are playing the badguys my friend. However, not the way you think . . . we all know Killzone is essentially a take on WWII, what it seems to be though is a take on WWII with America being just as much a villain (if not more so) than the Axis Powers, and Nazi Germany in particular. This is also why they have you in Killzone 2
KILL THE LEADER OF THE HELGHAST ARMY JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE HIM despite that being against the orders they were given
it's also why Killzone 3 starts with you being told off for going against orders (in such a way that it's a betrayal of your own NATION and PLANET not just a court marshal offense) and the concequence is your C.O. going "don't do that again mister or I'll give you a time out!"
The I.S.A. IS the villain . . . the Helghast really is a victim, though not nearly so much as they claim. However, I would love nothing more than to be given a new Killzone game that is either a Strategy game or a MASSIVE RPG where you control the Helghast.
The strategy game would be of course like Starcraft or Command and Conqour where you send out units, complete objectives blah blah blah. But the RPG would be a little different. You would start as a Grunt in Boot Camp, this being the tutorial of course. And when you complete it (earning a few levels and skills in shooting, maybe even letting you pick a specialization from there) then moving out to being a Private in the front lines. As you complete missions it would have you earn higher and higher ranks until finally you are a high leveled special operative. Sent ALONE into enemy territory to destroy massive fortresses of enemies on your own.
Sure it's a bit Starship Troopers in design but there's a reason for that: IT FUCKING WORKS. Btw Sony . . . you're welcome to both of those ideas, and the second one would also work as a tabletop RPG I think . . . hell, apparently it worked for Gears of War.
I've always wanted to play as the Helghast. Be great to play as one and see the twisted side they see. Besides, an army with Rico on their side can't be the good guys.
Twisted? Ha! Not nearly as twisted as the I.S.A.
They felt more like the victims in game who were rising up from their exile on an environmentally harsh planet.
What's worse is that they have better troop morale than the I.S.A. does.....given that Colonel Radec is a complete dick who killed a guy for not being in proper uniform.
The Helghast's actions actually take much more after the American Revolution. Their visual aesthetics are based on the Germans, but their history is like an evil version of the War of Independence.
The Helghan Corporation is comprised of rich businessmen looking to expand from Earth, with the UCN's permission. They colonize Vekta, and turn the planet Helghan into an orbital trading station. Over time, they establish their colonies on Vekta, and a few outposts on Helghan, turning it into a backwater.
The Helghan Corporation starts vying for Independence from the UCN and their ISA allies, trying to get away from the economic stranglehold the Mother World has over the colonies. To do this, they start charging tariff fees to ships passing through the Alpha Centauri system, which pisses the UCN off a lot. So the UCN attacks Helghan, and unlike the American Revolution, they win, beating the crap out of the Corporation.
Now comes the germany analogue. The UCN and the ISA basically enact a treaty of Versailles type bullshit scam on the Helghan Corporation, kicking them off of Vekta and exiling them to Helghan, where they mutate due to the planet's atmosphere. Several decades later, a young Scholar Visari helps rebuild his people into a fighting force and an industrial giant, renaming them the Helghast as vengeance against the ISA and UCN.
Que Killzone, where they try to take back their colonies on Vekta.
We know there's a new Killzone coming out on the PS Vita some time this year or next, and hopefully it focuses on the Helghast.
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