Kim Jong Il has died....

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JoesshittyOs

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CulixCupric said:
yeah, i heard about this earlier. I had/have nothing against him, and even though people didn't like him, he was/is still a person, and his death was/is unnecessary, even if it was by train wreck. death needs to be avoided, and no one should get to decide who lives or dies, for there are always unseen circumstances, and we do not know the wheel of fates. I think this world might have been better if he didn't die, because the next ruler of North Korea could be worse, and Kim was doing a good job, the entire country was stable, and in good working order, it was efficient. people may have seen him as a tyrant, but he was just keeping things running efficiently.
I wonder who else had a relatively stable country.... let's see.

Kim Jong Il instilled a cult like hold on the people of his country with no freedoms, kidnapped and attacked civilians from South Korea, and much much more.

But hell, at least the country was stable.
 

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First thing geez, they pretty much weep the same way when Kim Il-sung died.

Second thing, Kim Jong-un must be in alot of pressure as the weight of the country fall on him if he is to succeed his father.

Third thing, I would like to think that without him ruling it, the country would open up to the rest of the world but I don't think this will happen any time soon.
 

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shado_temple said:
The world's more likely better off without him, though it's anyone's guess what Kim Jong Un will do in his place.

That said, there's already footage of people mourning his death. Regardless of whether or not the emotion is genuine, the video is, for lack of a better term, unsettling:

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Well, even if he was crazy, he was damn good at creating his 'cult of personality.' I suppose after 17 years of being taught Kim Jong Il is your saviour and your protector, you're going to be distraught when he passes away.

It's a different place over there, I don't think anyone in the West could really understand it in this day and age.
 

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SillyBear said:
"Meh" sums up my opinions here - I'm really only concerned for the safety of South Koreans - but even if it did come to war South Korea and allies would wipe the floor with the idiots.
No concern for all the poor bastards stuck in North Korea? They're probably in bigger trouble than the South Koreans.
 

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SpiderJerusalem said:
shado_temple said:
The world's more likely better off without him, though it's anyone's guess what Kim Jong Un will do in his place.

That said, there's already footage of people mourning his death. Regardless of whether or not the emotion is genuine, the video is, for lack of a better term, unsettling:

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Well, what do you expect? These people are have been brainwashed since birth and for generations to believe that the man was as a living God, who could do no wrong, who led their country only towards eternal glory. All the while its population was starving to death. It's probably the most insane and intriguing case of total isolationism that allowed an entire nation to be cut off from the world and essentially be left behind in time (reports from caught spies are essentially confirmation, their idea of the modern world is stuck somewhere in the early eighties).
Ninja'd on the whole brainwashing thing for that video. It was unsettling, unsettling people have been brainwashed to be like that.

Good riddance I say, but I can't be North Korea getting better because of it any time soon, in fact, I think it'll only get worse.
 

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shado_temple said:
The world's more likely better off without him, though it's anyone's guess what Kim Jong Un will do in his place.

That said, there's already footage of people mourning his death. Regardless of whether or not the emotion is genuine, the video is, for lack of a better term, unsettling:

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That right there my friend is a perfect, if not THE perfect example of one of these:


Yes...perhaps I just wanted an excuse to post the song.
 
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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Interesting that when Christopher Hitchen goes, then "God takes all the good ones"; but when Kim-Possibre goes then "Satan reclaims his own".

God doesn't get much a good press these days, does he?
Of course. Don't you know how these things work? Anything bad that happens is totally God's fault because He... allowed it to happen, or something. Anything good that happens is... well it could be any number of things, apparently.

And most people who say this stuff are Atheists, at least from what I've seen. I kind of find that funny. Could just be the areas I lived in, but still.
 

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But who wirr now read the grorious peopres reprubric into a new era of peace and prosperity?

It always amazes me how they can keep a straight face, calling themselves "communists" while having a monarch.

Who cares anyway, it's not like he had ANY power.
 

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I'm happy to hear of his passing but I'm afraid his son will just continue his father's legacy. I guess we just have to wait and see.
 

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I was surprised to hear about it last night. I am glad he is dead, maybe Best Korea will somehow become a better country now, one that isn't threatening to nuke everyone.
 

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Has anyone else played Homefront? Now I'm not saying this is going to lead to a WWIII or Korean invasion of the US, but if it does, I just want to say I called it first
 

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SillyBear said:
I've heard his Son is even worse, and is far more aggressive and problematic.
Well, fortunately North Korea is a pathetic military force. If he really does rush an attack against basically anyone, he's rushing his own downfall. There's a reason Kim Jong Il never made good on his threats.
 

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Zac Smith said:
Korean invasion of the US

Anyways, I doubt the country is going to get any better.
Freaky Lou said:
Well, fortunately North Korea is a pathetic military force. If he really does rush an attack against basically anyone, he's rushing his own downfall. There's a reason Kim Jong Il never made good on his threats.
Well that and China. Pretty sure China wouldn't want its allies going around trying to fuck shit up.
 

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I'm curious if Kim Jong Il really died so soon. North Korea is an insular country that has complete control over information. For all we know, that stroke in 2008 could have done him in, and he been in a freezer ever since. Just a thought for anyone expecting a radical change in power.
 

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This could be bad, the guy was a psycho, no doubt about it, but he'll prolly be replaced by someone equally psycho, let's just hope that guy is equally good at preventing his country from starting WW3
 

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Freaky Lou said:
SillyBear said:
I've heard his Son is even worse, and is far more aggressive and problematic.
Well, fortunately North Korea is a pathetic military force. If he really does rush an attack against basically anyone, he's rushing his own downfall. There's a reason Kim Jong Il never made good on his threats.
You do realize that they have nuclear capabilities right? They prolly can't hit too many people, but they can hit china, and there's no way china's not gonna take a few pot shots at the US if they're going down anyway. And there's no way that the US won't take a few pot shots at somebody/anybody/everybody if we're going down anyway. An aggressive North Korea is not good for anybody.

True, maybe one of those country's missile defense system would stop the chain reaction, but I'm not quite ready for that big of a risk to global survival.
 

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hmm.
he's... dead.

well then.

is america going to stop aiming nukes at Korea and calling it 'missile Feng Shui'?
 

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It came out.
Cinsidering the country they could be "keeping him alive" till he's 150.
ope he enjoyed his time as a ruler over a country, bow let's hope someone fixes that country up and hope not another lunatic comes along.
 

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From what I know, his son (the successor) is just as nuts as he is... so most likely the status quo won't change unless he decides to one-up his father and lay waste to the surrounding offending countries (read: South Korea).