Kinect dubbed "racist"

[The Stonker]

Well, whilst I doubt it's intentionally racist, it's still a pretty gigantic slip up that should have been identified in testing. Nicely done, Microsoft.

I doubt microsoft can bend the laws of light.
Darker colours reflect less light rather then lighter colours.
Fact.

...and? They don't NOT REFLECT. Black people aren't FRAKKING INVISIBLE. Therefore if it's that simple a problem, you up the sensitivity of the device so it compensates. Good grief. Can you imagine how different this thread would be if the system was calibrated on black people, and so the ENHANCED REFLECTIVE PROPERTIES of white people threw the system off and somehow rendered it effectively unplayable for white people? Do you really think it'd just be 'WHITE SKIN IS MORE REFLECTIVE. FACT. PUT UP WITH IT.' Somehow, I doubt it.

You must be black your self since your getting so upset.
Plus I think there would be more fuzz if they would put a special setting for a black person or a special setting for well any race.
Light reflects better on lighter skin=FACT.
It's not racism.
Since racism is direct hate at any race, while this is a technical problem.

Actually, I'm as white as snow. I just don't see why I should be all like HURP DURP NOT MY PROBLEM because that might make me seem like a bit of an asshole! PS, I explicitly said it's not racist. Look up! Right there in the first sentence! my word, has it been there all along? It has! Cuh-razy. however, a technical problem THAT HUGE is a pretty basic blunder well within their capacity to resolve. Obviously the article makes it clear there's some ambiguity as to whether the problem indeed exists, but under the circumstance that it may exist somewhat, I'd say it qualifies as a "major balls up". See, we have this thing we've developing for a few thousand years on and off, you might have heard of it? Goes under the catchall name of 'technology' and we've done some crazy things with it! You know, like making cameras sufficiently sensitive that peoples skin colour is not relevant as to whether videogames work or not.

This is on the borderline of an insult.
The thing is that I would love it that they would fix it, but I think it's rather silly shouting racist "herp derp".
You should really calm down and maybe consider how much a camera costs.
So they used simpler technology so it wouldn't cost even more money then it does.
All this fuzz over a mistake of Microsoft, for the sake of ranting, why must we always make a fuzz out of everything? They will probably fix it or they won't, wouldn't change much for me and most of the people I think on the escapists, because if they were interested in playing games like that then they would have bought the Wii, since it's not "racist".
Btw. Why are we arguing to begin with?

 

[Serenegoose]

The Escapist: Where people can use the "IF YOU FLIPPED IT AROUND, NOONE WOULD CAAAAAAAAARE!" even when it makes not even the slightest bit of sense.

Actually, I said that if you flipped it around, people would lose their shit over it. But keep trying!

New game for all of you. It's called "Who Exactly Accused Kinect of Being Racist?"
Hint: You're not gonna find it in that article or the ones it links to.

Nor indeed in my post, but don't let that stop you, big guy! You keep on keepin' on, maybe one day you'll make a point.

You know, by accident.

And thank you. It's good to know guys like you can't even address a direct question, albeit you take one addressed to the crowd and apply it singularly to you. And that's kinda stupid. But it's a talent.

And of course, when you sarcastically say something, like what you said about people going nuts if white people couldn't play the Kinect, that implicitly means you meant the opposite of what you said. That's what sarcasm is, in fact. People really would be up-in-arms if Kinect couldn't be played by white people, but you sarcastically said that, meaning that you don't believe it would be the case. And that would be wrong.

Just keep turning up your nose and failing to say anything; I'm easily tricked by that old Internet chestnut, and I never tire of over-emotional people making vague statements about how they could not understand my posts instead of, you know, responding to the plain English words. It's kind of a sign that you can't discuss like an adult, but... you knew that already.

Didn't have to tell me! (See what I did thar?)

Oh dear. Read the post. I said... (and I'll quote myself if you'll allow me the indulgence)

Can you imagine how different this thread would be if the system was calibrated on black people, and so the ENHANCED REFLECTIVE PROPERTIES of white people threw the system off and somehow rendered it effectively unplayable for white people? Do you really think it'd just be 'WHITE SKIN IS MORE REFLECTIVE. FACT. PUT UP WITH IT.' Somehow, I doubt it.

So if you've somehow managed to tailor that into me saying 'flip it around and no-one would care!' you're more flexible than a world class contortionist. I mean except with words obv.

As for the other thing, I do this crazy thing where I respond for myself and let others do the same. If it wasn't directed straight at me, then no biggy. But if it was directed at -everyone- then it was directed at least a little at me, and so I have much right to respond to it in my own way as anybody else.

And yeah, man, the irony dripping off your last little bit there 'It's kind of a sign that you can't discuss like an adult, but you knew that already'? See, that's what debating academics call an 'ad hominem' attack. People 'debating like adults' don't do them, you great big hypocrite. But since I'm obviously incapable of debating like an adult, I'll just call you a colossal poopyhead and leave it there. Curse my childish inability to debate the real issues of our time!

 

[thethingthatlurks]

So a little box with a few cameras can identify lightly colored objects more easily than darker ones. Sure, it definitely is raci

oh shit, kinect really is fucking racist.

 

[Smooth Operator]

I also find video cameras racist, all black people appear darker on the image, and all the white people are brighter as if they are more important, what is up with that! Such blatant racism!
Seriously now...

But people really can't expect the face and voice recognition to be reliable, that only works in a sterile environment, in an ordinary room the lighting won't be monotone and 9/10 times it will be under-lit, you don't stand in the same spot and you may have a slightly different facial expression every time, putting all that together the results for the camera will be very varied, and at this quality level it's more of a wishful thinking kind of toy.

 

[dark-amon]

*cought*bullshit*cought*

 

[The Stonker]

The Escapist: Where people can use the "IF YOU FLIPPED IT AROUND, NOONE WOULD CAAAAAAAAARE!" even when it makes not even the slightest bit of sense.

Actually, I said that if you flipped it around, people would lose their shit over it. But keep trying!

New game for all of you. It's called "Who Exactly Accused Kinect of Being Racist?"
Hint: You're not gonna find it in that article or the ones it links to.

Nor indeed in my post, but don't let that stop you, big guy! You keep on keepin' on, maybe one day you'll make a point.

You know, by accident.

And thank you. It's good to know guys like you can't even address a direct question, albeit you take one addressed to the crowd and apply it singularly to you. And that's kinda stupid. But it's a talent.

And of course, when you sarcastically say something, like what you said about people going nuts if white people couldn't play the Kinect, that implicitly means you meant the opposite of what you said. That's what sarcasm is, in fact. People really would be up-in-arms if Kinect couldn't be played by white people, but you sarcastically said that, meaning that you don't believe it would be the case. And that would be wrong.

Just keep turning up your nose and failing to say anything; I'm easily tricked by that old Internet chestnut, and I never tire of over-emotional people making vague statements about how they could not understand my posts instead of, you know, responding to the plain English words. It's kind of a sign that you can't discuss like an adult, but... you knew that already.

Didn't have to tell me! (See what I did thar?)

Oh dear. Read the post. I said... (and I'll quote myself if you'll allow me the indulgence)

Can you imagine how different this thread would be if the system was calibrated on black people, and so the ENHANCED REFLECTIVE PROPERTIES of white people threw the system off and somehow rendered it effectively unplayable for white people? Do you really think it'd just be 'WHITE SKIN IS MORE REFLECTIVE. FACT. PUT UP WITH IT.' Somehow, I doubt it.

So if you've somehow managed to tailor that into me saying 'flip it around and no-one would care!' you're more flexible than a world class contortionist. I mean except with words obv.

As for the other thing, I do this crazy thing where I respond for myself and let others do the same. If it wasn't directed straight at me, then no biggy. But if it was directed at -everyone- then it was directed at least a little at me, and so I have much right to respond to it in my own way as anybody else.

And yeah, man, the irony dripping off your last little bit there 'It's kind of a sign that you can't discuss like an adult, but you knew that already'? See, that's what debating academics call an 'ad hominem attack. People 'debating like adults' don't do them, you great big hypocrite. But since I'm obviously incapable of debating like an adult, I'll just call you a colossal poopyhead and leave it there. Curse my childish inability to debate the real issues of our time!

It's not an issue!
They should just make a different Gen of kinect which can be used by everyone.
It was an honest mistake, lets just all cool down.

 

[Dfskelleton]

*Facepalm*
Kinect isn't racist, it's just a gimmick. A gimmick that hopefully pass. What is it with people yelling "RACIST!" at the smallest hint of it.

"I think I look better in White shirts than Black shirts."
"RACIST!"
"Hey man, wanna eat at KFC?"
"RACIST!"
"I like Obama as a person, but I disagree with him politically."
"RACIST!"
"One of my favorite video game characters is Doomguy."
"RACIST! HE'S NOT BLACK!"
"I don't like rap music."
"RACIST!"
"I like watermelon, but can't eat too much of it in a time period or it loses it's appeal."
"RACIST!"
"I like the Street Fighter II intro."
"RACIST!"

Funny thing, almost all of these have actually happened to me in one way or another.

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

I.. Am genuinely lost for words.

What is it with people shouting 'RACIST!!' at every little fucking thing?

THAT COMMENT WAS RACIST!

My friend, if you shout something loudly and for long enough it becomes true.

/sarcasm

YOUR AVATAR IS FROM A JAPANESE PRODUCTION YET THE TWO CHARACTERS ARE CLEARLY WHITE AND ARE OBVIOUSLY WESTERNIZED! YOU'RE RACIST!

Fixed it for you. It doesn't work unless you're shouting

 

[HentMas]

That's um, wow. The game criticizing media is really scraping the bottom of the barrel now.
But, I suppose they've blamed games for being everything else, it was time to add racist to that list.

well... that came and went with resident evil 5

 

[dickseverywhere]

Not racist, but if it actually can't detect black people and they've released it I won't know whether to laugh or cry (probably both).

that would be pretty hilarious, no black playtesters at MS?
clearly just the media stiring up controversy for attention.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

Wow so nobody is actually reading the link? way to go escapist

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

I just clicked it. For those too lazy, the first words are "Kincect Not Racist".


Good job guys. Just a stand-out performance.

 

[Daffy F]

I take it that you know using caps effectively makes you sound like an idiot? Evidently not. You do now, anyways..

Gee golly gosh, thanks Mister! I've never used the intersteak before! Could you point me to the lobby so that I can speak to the net secretary? I've got an appointment on my electro-mail account but I cannot find the web room to attend it! But y'see.... pardon my newbish ways, "Sir", But I've been on more real allcaps drop insertions than you've ever simulated. So if I feel like choosing to use allcaps to demarcate RIDICULOUS HYPERBOLE in a more than somewhat ironic manner, you'll have to forgive me for just rolling with it.

Sarcasm= Double douchbaggery. Good show... Seriously though, responding with extra aggresion? Are you trying to troll? Or are you just failing at not-trolling...

 

[Painful illusion]

I remember seeing a video joking about webcam motion tracking technology being racist, where a web cam would follow this white chick, but not the black guy that was there. It's not just Microsoft, it's EVERYONE WHO MANUFACTURES MOTION TRACKING TECHNOLOGY! Technology is racist! I must become Amish now!

Haha I saw that video too and it was so funny. I'm black and I don't see why the kinect is such an issue. Microsoft will probably make an update soon to fix this frivolous lighting colors problem. It's true, light doesn't reflect as well on dark skin.

 

[Serenegoose]

Sarcasm= Double douchbaggery. Good show... Seriously though, responding with extra aggresion? Are you trying to troll? Or are you just failing at not-trolling...

Why would I troll a forum I'm invested in? I'm acerbic, occasionally abrasive, and always confrontational. However, I respond as it amuses me to. 90% of the entire response was just a setup so I could refer to actual drops and simulated drops in a vague reference to Aliens, and to use the phrase "sir" which I think is one of the funniest anachronistic words the intersteak has ever adopted. Everything else was framing in a way that made me smirk, concluded with a statement that I use allcaps ironically because it puts a silly edge on what I'm saying, reducing from the overall seriousness of the statement.

 

[icame]

http://sanityrules.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/ignorant1.jpg

People piss me off sometimes

 

[Daffy F]

Why would I troll a forum I'm invested in? I'm acerbic, occasionally abrasive, and always confrontational. However, I respond as it amuses me to. 90% of the entire response was just a setup so I could refer to actual drops and simulated drops in a vague reference to Aliens, and to use the phrase "sir" which I think is one of the funniest anachronistic words the intersteak has ever adopted. Everything else was framing in a way that made me smirk, concluded with a statement that I use allcaps ironically because it puts a silly edge on what I'm saying, reducing from the overall seriousness of the statement.

I see what you did there. Typing a whole paragraph when it's not necessary, using long words in an attempt to confuse... It's not going to work, so just give it up mate, alright?

 

[Serenegoose]

Why would I troll a forum I'm invested in? I'm acerbic, occasionally abrasive, and always confrontational. However, I respond as it amuses me to. 90% of the entire response was just a setup so I could refer to actual drops and simulated drops in a vague reference to Aliens, and to use the phrase "sir" which I think is one of the funniest anachronistic words the intersteak has ever adopted. Everything else was framing in a way that made me smirk, concluded with a statement that I use allcaps ironically because it puts a silly edge on what I'm saying, reducing from the overall seriousness of the statement.

I see what you did there. Typing a whole paragraph when it's not necessary, using long words in an attempt to confuse... It's not going to work, so just give it up mate, alright?

Not in the least. I was being completely genuine as to my motives for everything I've just said (to you). I was actually dropping the act to treat you with some respect, since you'd gained a faulty belief that I was a troll, and I was attempting to remedy it. No act. I pinky-swear it.

 

[InnerRebellion]

Everything is racist now, isn't it? Or as the stereotypical black people say, "mad ignorant!".

So, physics is racist...or physics is trolling the world?

 

[Double A]

That's not a racism issue, that's a software issue...

 

[Daffy F]

Not in the least. I was being completely genuine as to my motives for everything I've just said (to you). I was actually dropping the act to treat you with some respect, since you'd gained a faulty belief that I was a troll, and I was attempting to remedy it. No act. I pinky-swear it.

Look, it's all very well punctuating and spelling correctly on the internet, but in this case it's just a bit pretentious. Come on dude, do you talk like that in real life?