Kinguendo Studies... MW2 Multiplayer!

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Kinguendo

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Okay, I decided to take it upon myself to study the game everyone loves to complain about.

Modern Warfare 2!!!

I did this so we could stop all of the MW2 threads after this. However, if you still have complaints you could voice them here and maybe I could do another 8 hour study to see whats what. Hell, I may even do other studies about other games... cant think of any right now though.

Okay, I started this morning at 5AM and just finished my study at 1:15PM. I chose to look out for 4 main things that I find to be pretty awful about MW2. These are verbal abuse, knifing class, n00b tube and quick scope. I only took note of the events I witnessed someone doing one of these, NOT when someone accused someone else of doing it. Also, I added a few seperate offences that caught my eye or that I thought appropriate to add on certain game types which I will colour in red.

I did 20 matches from start to finish, a different match type each time for the first 10 then repeated again. Also, to remain as distant from effecting the results as possible while still able to witness I muted my mic and didnt use any of the techniques listed (which I never do anyway but you know.).

Oh and my score was effected by the whole "taking notes" thing but SCIENCE demands sacrifice... sometimes.

Here are the results:

Verbal Abuse: 1
Knife Class: 0
N00b Tube: 6
Quick Scope: 0
Verbal Abuse: 0
Knife Class: 4
N00b Tube: 2
Quick Scope: 0
Verbal Abuse: 10
Knife Class: 0
N00b Tube: 0
Quick Scope: 0
Chopper Gunner Glitch!
Verbal Abuse: 3
Knife Class: 0
N00b Tube: 1
Quick Scope: 3
Verbal Abuse: 17
Knife Class: 3
N00b Tube: 17
Quick Scope: 0
Spawn Rape: 8
Verbal Abuse: 1
Knife Class: 0
N00b Tube: 3
Quick Scope: 0
Verbal Abuse: 21
Knife Class: 0
N00b Tube: 9
Quick Scope: 0
Camping: 19
Verbal Abuse: 41
Knife Class: 1
N00B Tube: 0
Quick Scope: 0
Verbal Abuse: 0
Knife Class: 1
N00b Tube: 2
Quick Scope: 0
Camping: 6
Drop Shot: 6
Verbal Abuse: 20
Knife Class: 0
N00b Tube: 2
Quick Scope: 0
Verbal Abuse: 3
Knife Class: 0
N00b Tube: 3
Quick Scope: 4
Verbal Abuse: 0
Knife Class: 4
N00b Tube: 0
Quick Scope: 0
Verbal Abuse: 0
Knife Class: 1
N00b Tube: 2
Quick Scope: 0
I actually had fun while playing this match, as I often do on Skidrow. :D
Verbal Abuse: 0
Knife Class: 3
N00b Tube: 6
Quick Scope: 1
Verbal Abuse: 19
Knife Class: 1
N00b Tube: 0
Quick Scope: 0
Spawn Rape: 0
As you know, very difficult to spawn rape on Terminal unless you take the plane which the enemy didnt manage to do.
Verbal Abuse: 3
Knife Class: 8
N00b Tube: 0
Quick Scope: 0
Verbal Abuse: 12
Knife Class: 1
N00b Tube: 1
Quick Scope: 1
Camping: 9
Verbal Abuse: 14
Knife Class: 0
N00b Tube: 0
Quick Scope: 3
Modded Pad!
Verbal Abuse: 1
Knife Class: 1
N00b Tube: 1
Quick Scope: 2
Verbal Abuse: 1
Knife Class: 3
N00b Tube: 0
Quick Scope: 0

Final note, in every instance where there was no verbal abuse there was absolutely nothing said by any player.

EDIT: I originally planned on doing this study to give people an idea of the game type which would be fairly stress free... however after the first 5 matches it became quite clear that wasnt going to happen. XD

EDIT2: The "camping" options on both Headquarters Pro were not counting people defending/destroying/capturing the HQ or snipers.

And I added the "camping" and "drop shot" to the first Barebones Pro because it was happening so bloody often that I felt I had to put it on.
 

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Kinguendo said:
So the game suffers from what every other multi-player game suffers from?

Camping and verbal abuse are a mainstay in all multi-player games, ever.
 

Kinguendo

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dathwampeer said:
Pretty good. But you would need about 10 people doing this for a few hours a day from a month upwards for it to be fair really.
A few hours...? I did this for 8 hours... 8! EIGHT! :,(

Also, as I am one man and it was 5AM when I started I figured I wouldnt wake people up to get them involved.

And come on, its fairly telling... every single match had something wrong with it. Its not like I was marking every weapon down, all the other people had to do was not do one of those 4 things in a single match in my sight.
 

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Hyper-space said:
Kinguendo said:
So the game suffers from what every other multi-player game suffers from?

Camping and verbal abuse are a mainstay in all multi-player games, ever.
Camping isnt something I took note of often and as I said... if they werent spewing abuse at eachother no one talked at all.
 

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I really don't see the point of this..what exactly are you trying to prove with this "experiment", beyond the fact you need to buy a more entertaining game if you've resorted to something like this for fun? All you've done is point out, over a very short space of time, a few things that people get annoyed about in Modern Warfare 2 and when they occurred. Well done?
 

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D_987 said:
I really don't see the point of this..what exactly are you trying to prove with this "experiment", beyond the fact you need to buy a more entertaining game if you've resorted to something like this for fun? All you've done is point out, over a very short space of time, a few things that people get annoyed about in Modern Warfare 2 and when they occurred. Well done?
Study, not experiment. Its in the title.

I also never stated I did this for fun, in fact I made it quite clear I only had fun in one of the matches.

And as I wrote at the bottom I initially had the plan of providing people with some game types that they could go to in order to avoid the things I listed, once I found this was not going to happen at all I decided to see what lengths people would go to just to win in a game and if it was at all possible for people to be civil during online gameplay.

But thank you for making it abundantly clear that the lack of common decency isnt just a problem people have whilst gaming.
 
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Everyone already knew that people verbally abused, noobtubed, and camped in MW2. We don't need you telling us that and regardless of how many sniper worshiping idiots complain quickscoping isn't a problem.
 

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Kinguendo said:
Study, not experiment. Its in the title.
They mean the same thing...

I also never stated I did this for fun, in fact I made it quite clear I only had fun in one of the matches.
So you did this to waste your time? I mean think about it logically; nobody is going to take these results seriously - even if they were, your methods are flawed and there are so many people playing the game that the results have no real meaning; every match is different.

And as I wrote at the bottom I initially had the plan of providing people with some game types that they could go to in order to avoid the things I listed, once I found this was not going to happen at all I decided to see what lengths people would go to just to win in a game and if it was at all possible for people to be civil during online gameplay.
You don't think that's extremely childish? As stated, your results are flawed, and - more importantly - your idea of "civil" behavior is subjective. It's just a massive waste of time; the results mean nothing and the actual idea itself is childish.

But thank you for making it abundantly clear that the lack of common decency isnt just a problem people have whilst gaming.
Pretty ironic that you used those words as an insult...
 

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xRagnarok19 said:
Everyone already knew that people verbally abused, noobtubed, and camped in MW2. We don't need you telling us that and regardless of how many sniper worshiping idiots complain quickscoping isn't a problem.
Did they know that out of 20 matches of 10 different game types there would be more than one of these things going on AND that IF people decided to talk it would only be to insult someone else?

I sure didnt and its not exactly my first time playing online, then again I dont do the things I listed so maybe it was wrong of me to suspect your average gamers to be decent.

Oh and quick scoping is most certainly a problem that requires fixing post haste.
 

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Kinguendo said:
I did this so we could stop all of the MW2 threads after this.
Hahahaha, are you serious? These will never end.


Only played the MW2 Campaign,meh.
 

Kinguendo

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D_987 said:
They mean the same thing...
Study is the pursuit of knowledge, as by reading, observation or research.

Experiment is a test under controlled conditions that is made to demonstrate a known truth, examine the validity of a hypothesis, or determine the efficacy of something previously untried. OR the process of conducting such a test.

So you can say study when you mean experiment but you cannot say experiment when you mean study.

D_987 said:
So you did this to waste your time? I mean think about it logically; nobody is going to take these results seriously - even if they were, your methods are flawed and there are so many people playing the game that the results have no real meaning; every match is different.
Its a Sunday... it was 5AM, yes it was something to pass the time.

Hmm, except as I have proven every match wasnt different... in fact every single match followed a shockingly similar route. All the people playing had to do was avoid doing these 4 things in any one of the 20 matches to make your statement correct... however they didnt. I didnt play with the same group twice or the same game type twice in a row and only had 4 things to check for out of the many different things people could do in the game and yet in every match someone did one or more of these things in my view.

D_987 said:
You don't think that's extremely childish? As stated, your results are flawed, and - more importantly - your idea of "civil" behavior is subjective. It's just a massive waste of time; the results mean nothing and the actual idea itself is childish.
Yes, its extremely childish to try and find a game type for people to play that dont like being verbally abused and so on(!) T_T

And are you seriously saying that my comment that verbal abuse is not civil is only my subjective opinion? REALLY?! I am afraid the Dictionary disagrees with you.

D_987 said:
Pretty ironic that you used those words as an insult...
As an insult? No. As an accurate description of your comment.
 

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PurpleSky said:
Kinguendo said:
I did this so we could stop all of the MW2 threads after this.
Hahahaha, are you serious? These will never end.


Only played the MW2 Campaign,meh.
But if we dont at least try the MW2 threads would run riot, stealing children and eating goats... Wait, MW2 threads are sounding increasingly like a Chupacabra.
 

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dont know why people complaýn about campýng sýnce all ýt requýres ýs a perfectly cooked nade ýn the rýght area and they are fýnýshed. also on quýckscopýng ým guessýng you played ýt on the consoles and yes ýt maybe a problem there due to the shýtness called autoaým but on pc ýt shows a relatýve amount of skýll and ýs used ýn the competatýve scene all the týme. well for cod4 anyway sýnce no one ýn theýr rýght mýnd would play cod6 competatývely
 

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i dont see what you tried to prove or disprove here

furthermore every multiplayer has those problems but this game has it worse than others
 

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But if we dont at least try the MW2 threads would run riot, stealing children and eating goats... Wait, MW2 threads are sounding increasingly like a Chupacabra.[/quote]

Using a "witty" deflection from a correct observation. Very Craig!
 

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MaxPowers666 said:
So what I got from that is that in each game their was atleast 1 of the named classes used. Since its obvious that you counted each instance something happened and not each person who had the class. All you really proved is that being ***** at each other when playing online games. Another thing, what do you consider camping, and how do you know they were actually camping. Most of the times people get accused of camping they arnt.

Im also curious as to what system you were playing on. I play on the ps3 and 90% of the time when people are talking they are just shooting shit with each other. 1% they are talking strategy and 9% is abuse. Then again half the time people are swearing at each other when im playing is because were friends and just giving each other a hard time.

One problem I have with your study is that you X amount of knife/noob toob/etc could very easily all have been from the same person. So in a 12 person game their might have been 1 quickscoper and 1 knifer.

What do you consider a knife class. Because if you didnt know it using a tact knife with say the desert eagle actually straightens the aim making it easier to use. Commando is a common perk for the no fall damage. It is very hard to actually determine is somebody is straight up noobtoobing or using it as a tacticle, ie once in awhile weapon. Really your study doesnt prove anything because your not really defining how you classify each count and you are counting each time you saw it not each person using said role. There is also room for error because you cant always tell what somebodies class is or if they are actually doing what you think they are.
I consider Camping, which I didnt count often at all and yet its the thing that most people make reference to, to be when a person sits in an area and waits... simple really. However as I said, I did not count when they were snipers OR when they were defending/capturing/destroying an HQ so I was being fair and paid attention.

XBOX 360 and the time I played made sure I begun playing with mostly Americans then progressed through to mostly Europeans.

Yes, it could have been the same person... However, this is only the most likely for the lower scoring rounds as the more something like that happens the more likely more than 1 person was doing it and of course it is logical to assume the things that happened happened more than when I saw them. Oh and I took counts from both teams as well so there is another reason for it being increasingly less likely to have been the same person.

A knife class being one with commando, lightweight and marathon using either tactical knife with a pistol OR a UMP.45. You know, the ones that are clearly built to offer the greatest stack of benefits to the knife.

And there would be added room for error there if I didnt only mark down the results that I had comfirmed. Like with the modded pad, I only noted that because the guy actually admitted to having a modded pad.
 

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DamianWorld said:
But if we dont at least try the MW2 threads would run riot, stealing children and eating goats... Wait, MW2 threads are sounding increasingly like a Chupacabra.
Using a witty deflection from a correct observation. Very Craig!
There, fixed the little quoting problem you had there... I also fixed the little quotation mark problem you had there too.

"These will never end" is a correct observation? Come on, that is bloody ridiculous.