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lacktheknack

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the December King said:
lacktheknack said:
Jean Hag said:
Humans better than any other animal?
I don't see those animals destroying this planet like a cancer.
I don't see those animals be cruel sadistic cunts either.
WE'RE NOT BETTER THAN THEM, at least not by THAT much.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19904_8-species-that-are-threatening-to-swarm-globe.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_19263_the-6-most-disturbingly-evil-birds_p2.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_16762_the-6-biggest-assholes-in-animal-kingdom.html

People love to treat bad behavior as a human trait, but it's the weirdest romanticized notion ever. We DO see animals horribly destroying ecosystems, spawning too fast, and being absolute assholes - we have record of a chimp GRABBING AND EATING A HUMAN BABY.

Plus, humans have things like inter-species philanthropy. The only other species that has that that I remember is bottlenose dolphins (which happen to also have been recorded raping each other and killing other things for fun, how human).
I think a big part of the problem is that if we're supposed to be so much better than animals, why do we still end up doing all of the worst, malicious things? We're supposed to be better than that, as part of what 'elevates' us from them.

I understand you're stance on the 'humans are the same as other animals' argument- it can get messy- but it seems to be that we are the ones locked into having to admit that bad behaviour is a human trait, because we consciously have made the choice to BE bad, to actively pursue and commit unnecessarily despicable acts of our own free will with our big brains/souls/what have you.

And maybe dolphins, too.
As someone else in this thread said, the worst humans have nearly all been physically/mentally ill, "defective" if you will.

We seem to think that the urge to maim, kill and destroy is a naturally human one, but I just straight up don't think it's true. Even the "horrors of war" require soldiers to be conditioned first.
 

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Micromyni said:
I'm gonna go hug my cat.
I couldn't help but do the same (he's my current avatar). Sob stories arn't my thing but when someone hurts the official mascot of the internet, then they've crossed the line. Hopefully the more attention it gets, maybe something will be done about it.

I'd hug my african grey parrot too but it might not be as easy.
 

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lacktheknack said:
the December King said:
lacktheknack said:
Jean Hag said:
Humans better than any other animal?
I don't see those animals destroying this planet like a cancer.
I don't see those animals be cruel sadistic cunts either.
WE'RE NOT BETTER THAN THEM, at least not by THAT much.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19904_8-species-that-are-threatening-to-swarm-globe.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_19263_the-6-most-disturbingly-evil-birds_p2.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_16762_the-6-biggest-assholes-in-animal-kingdom.html

People love to treat bad behavior as a human trait, but it's the weirdest romanticized notion ever. We DO see animals horribly destroying ecosystems, spawning too fast, and being absolute assholes - we have record of a chimp GRABBING AND EATING A HUMAN BABY.

Plus, humans have things like inter-species philanthropy. The only other species that has that that I remember is bottlenose dolphins (which happen to also have been recorded raping each other and killing other things for fun, how human).
I think a big part of the problem is that if we're supposed to be so much better than animals, why do we still end up doing all of the worst, malicious things? We're supposed to be better than that, as part of what 'elevates' us from them.

I understand you're stance on the 'humans are the same as other animals' argument- it can get messy- but it seems to be that we are the ones locked into having to admit that bad behaviour is a human trait, because we consciously have made the choice to BE bad, to actively pursue and commit unnecessarily despicable acts of our own free will with our big brains/souls/what have you.

And maybe dolphins, too.
As someone else in this thread said, the worst humans have nearly all been physically/mentally ill, "defective" if you will.

We seem to think that the urge to maim, kill and destroy is a naturally human one, but I just straight up don't think it's true. Even the "horrors of war" require soldiers to be conditioned first.
Thanks for the prompt and polite reply!

You might be right about my skewed view on people- it's really hot where I am, and I hate the heat, and it might be coloring my attitudes at the moment.

Also, and more on topic, in general I view the notion of a kitten's torture and death to be a message to someone because of differing beliefs a reprehensible, despicable and condemnable act.
 

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lacktheknack said:
CarlMinez said:
I thought the overall point was human superiority. I mean the food chain isn't even a thing. It's just a mental concept of how animals feed of each other that they teach in first grade. Saying that humans are on the top of the food chain doesn't mean anything, unless you by extension imply that humans are superior to other animals, which we aren't necessary.
Fine, I can work with that. It means you responded to someone on uneven terms, but hey, what happens happens.

That said, I don't see the point of treating other animals as equals. It contributes nothing to human society, and has horrific implications in the farming industry.

Sure, you shouldn't abuse animals (as seen in the OP), but there's no reason to break out the "humans are the same as other animals" argument. I don't agree with it, but above all, there's no point to it.
Well not from a human perspective. But I'm sure that a lot of non-human animals would benefit from us, at least recognizing that they are too sentient beings. And most mammals and birds are indeed sentient.

I don't think it's necessary about treating humans and animals as equals, it's more about acknowledged that the reasons we care about human lives is not simply because they are a member of homo-sapiens, it's because we recognize that they have a capacity to feel physical and psychological pain, which arguably most animals do as well.

Therefore, that is a limit to how we should allow ourselves to treat them. Where that limit goes I guess is very individual.
 

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the December King said:
lacktheknack said:
As someone else in this thread said, the worst humans have nearly all been physically/mentally ill, "defective" if you will.

We seem to think that the urge to maim, kill and destroy is a naturally human one, but I just straight up don't think it's true. Even the "horrors of war" require soldiers to be conditioned first.
Thanks for the prompt and polite reply!

You might be right about my skewed view on people- it's really hot where I am, and I hate the heat, and it might be coloring my attitudes at the moment.

Also, and more on topic, in general I view the notion of a kitten's torture and death to be a message to someone because of differing beliefs a reprehensible, despicable and condemnable act.
I do as well. I just refuse to take the sicko who buried a kitten alive as the "norm" for human behavior. There's a reason (s)he'll be prosecuted if (s)he gets caught.

Also, it's enormously hot here as well. This is Canada! The Great White North! Not the land of a thousand suns! I feel your pain.
 

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idarkphoenixi said:
Micromyni said:
I'm gonna go hug my cat.
I couldn't help but do the same (he's my current avatar). Sob stories arn't my thing but when someone hurts the official mascot of the internet, then they've crossed the line. Hopefully the more attention it gets, maybe something will be done about it.

I'd hug my african grey parrot too but it might not be as easy.
I decided to go hug all my pets, and my dog is on my lap as I type. Here, I'll get her to paw the keybord: gyubtfv f5tvg078vtyblu ijoiurdfvgbh

My cat would be on my lap, but she's prissy and only wants affection when she seeks it out herself. Little brat, but I wouldn't want her any other way.
 

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You know, maybe I've just got an utterly fucked perspective, what with my existence taking a turn for the asocial over the last year or so, but I genuinely value my dog's life over any human I can think of. She's been my best friend since I was a kid, she's always been there for me, and now she's getting old and arthritic, I spend most of my time returning the favor and looking after her. For which, I might add, she seems damn grateful, which is more than I can say for any human in my life right now. Perhaps I'm just pathetic, even a bit deluded, but if it comes down to a choice between my dog and some stranger, "inherent human superiority" be damned, I'm saving my friend.

OT: In case the above doesn't make it obvious, I'm saddened and infuriated by this story. Poor kitten...
 

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There is a special ring in Hell for anybody who would bury a Kitten in Concrete, it's the same as PETA wackos and anybody who would harm a kitten.
 

Durgiun

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royohz said:
Durgiun said:
We're destroying the planet?
Yes. Yes, we are. And yes, the earth has been through worse than us. We're not actually destroying the planet as much as we are screwing ourselves over. That's the problem. Whenever someone says we're destroying the planet, they mean it as a warning that if we keep it up, we won't be able to live here anymore. So many people just can't figure that one out.

OT: That is probably one of the sickest things I've heard all year. We are all animals and we are not any better or worth more than any other species.
Well pardon me for thinking that when someone says ''we're destroying the Earth'' I think that they mean ''we're destroying the Earth''. It's a thing called language, where everything you say carries some weight to it, and by adding or subtracting certain words, the meaning of what is being said can change drastically.
 

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Durgiun said:
royohz said:
Durgiun said:
We're destroying the planet?
Yes. Yes, we are. And yes, the earth has been through worse than us. We're not actually destroying the planet as much as we are screwing ourselves over. That's the problem. Whenever someone says we're destroying the planet, they mean it as a warning that if we keep it up, we won't be able to live here anymore. So many people just can't figure that one out.

OT: That is probably one of the sickest things I've heard all year. We are all animals and we are not any better or worth more than any other species.
Well pardon me for thinking that when someone says ''we're destroying the Earth'' I think that they mean ''we're destroying the Earth''. It's a thing called language, where everything you say carries some weight to it, and by adding or subtracting certain words, the meaning of what is being said can change drastically.
I wasn't really criticizing you. It's often referred to as reading between the lines, drawing conclusions from information. You know, normal people stuff.
 

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bullet_sandw1ch said:
Fieldy409 said:
I don't think I want to watch the video of this. Wet concrete can be nasty If your skin stays in contact with it a long time.

This is monstrous.
please dont watch it. all you will see is an innocent creature meowing its last few meows.
I think watching this is very important. We can't just hide from the evil in this world because it's unpleasant.
 

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Jean Hag said:
Humans better than any other animal?
I don't see those animals destroying this planet like a cancer.
I don't see those animals be cruel sadistic cunts either.
WE'RE NOT BETTER THAN THEM, at least not by THAT much.
Cruel and sadistic?

Last I checked most snakes paralyze their prey and eat them alive forcing them to watch themselves being slowly swallowed whole.