Kojima Defends Mountain of Peace Walker In-Game Advertisements
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Bwuh...Plurralbles said:
Sorry, are you actually arguing that junk food is worse than smoking... because it gives you acne?
As opposed to lung cancer?
Eh?
Actually, it was showing the affects of bad food that occurs just DAYS after having it whereas it takes a quite a few cigarettes to really notice a problem developing and years for your cancer. If I wanted to compare ultimate ways to die form it, I would say heart disease. And it lowers sperm count. And it makes hair fall out prematurely, and it can make one fat now, whereas smoking only ages someone after a few years of doing it.Singing Gremlin said:
You know, to play devil's advocate, I could see this trend bringing some realism to games. Instead of having vending machines with made up soda companies you could have Pepsi or Coke, you could see people wearing the tons of corporate-logo branded stuff we see out there.
But most of the 'advertising' in games that we see in games is very blatantly shoehorned with all the subtlety of a tactical nuclear strike.
But most of the 'advertising' in games that we see in games is very blatantly shoehorned with all the subtlety of a tactical nuclear strike.
If you think smoking just ages you, you are provably wrong. It causes cancer, emphesma (or however the toss you spell that), asthma, tooth decay, ... tissue decay in the affected areas to begin with really, damages the lungs, heart, and chemical processes of the brain, contributes to a series of mental conditions not the worse of which is the addictive properties of nicotine, and the list goes on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking#Health_effects_of_tobacco].Plurralbles said:
Bad diet causes colon cancer. Bad food leads to tooth decay. Bad food leads to stroke and heartattack. Junk food has the addictive properties like nicotine in some people. The public is more susceptible to the damages caused by junk food than smoking. Smoking is banned in schools and any area that can be seen from the school, and yet junk food is served wthin the building and there are few other options aside from packing. There is, however, a comparitively sized anti-junk food movement with the food pyramid and the like, targeted at kids and it is comparitive to the anti smoking movement.Caiti Voltaire said:
Both are really bad though so I'll let this thing lie. I dont' really care which anybody thinks is worse, I just think it's worse because it's difficult to avoid and a bunch of people ahve no clue about it like they do smoking.
In this thread:
People who think art can't contain product placement (I.E. The Beatles song Come Together is not a piece of art).
People who think game mechanics matter less than the concept (It's not the fact that you have health restoring items and their impact on gameplay that is interesting to them, but the fact that it's a can of soda, a ration, or a bugger).
People who think Solid Snake is influential enough to make me drink Mountain Dew (I drink Sun Drop).
People who think art can't contain product placement (I.E. The Beatles song Come Together is not a piece of art).
People who think game mechanics matter less than the concept (It's not the fact that you have health restoring items and their impact on gameplay that is interesting to them, but the fact that it's a can of soda, a ration, or a bugger).
People who think Solid Snake is influential enough to make me drink Mountain Dew (I drink Sun Drop).
I can only imagine the in-game conversation tutorial:
"Snake! You've been shot! Whenever you're seriously hurt, you can drink Mountain Dew and Pepsi that other soldiers leave behind. Feel the healing power of DEW!!!"
Oh, how I hope that Kojima does not read that.
OT: This really won't be good if it's forced onto the player. If it's something optional, like the iPod in MGS4, maybe I could let it slide.
"Snake! You've been shot! Whenever you're seriously hurt, you can drink Mountain Dew and Pepsi that other soldiers leave behind. Feel the healing power of DEW!!!"
Oh, how I hope that Kojima does not read that.
OT: This really won't be good if it's forced onto the player. If it's something optional, like the iPod in MGS4, maybe I could let it slide.
If we can get Peace Walker for 'Sneak King' prices,this might be alright(complete with a stalk-a-thon featuring a face-off between Snake and King,only neither shows his face in any way or the game is lost...or 'Lost'.). I fully support making games the good kind of cheap.
If not,I'd prefer the in-game advertising to be done by Ron English or Robert Crumb. Hey,some of the best art is commercial!
http://www.popaganda.com/index.shtml
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn69/miguemiguemigue/robert-crumb-janis-joplin-cheap-thr.jpg
Edit: Though videogames themselves are pieces of commercial art,this could have the same effect as trying to pitch Nikes or Always feminine hygiene products in a Burger King ad("Mmmm....tampons. D'oh!"). They distract from the product the piggy-backing products are placed in.
If not,I'd prefer the in-game advertising to be done by Ron English or Robert Crumb. Hey,some of the best art is commercial!
http://www.popaganda.com/index.shtml
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn69/miguemiguemigue/robert-crumb-janis-joplin-cheap-thr.jpg
Edit: Though videogames themselves are pieces of commercial art,this could have the same effect as trying to pitch Nikes or Always feminine hygiene products in a Burger King ad("Mmmm....tampons. D'oh!"). They distract from the product the piggy-backing products are placed in.
Hold your horses there Kojima. I don't want to regain health by drinking Mountain Dew and eating Doritos. I want to regain health by eating snakes and other wild animals, the old fashioned way.
Also how in the blue hell can I regain health by applying a man's body spray to myself? Now I know Mr. Kojima supposedly wants to make things fresh and new but there's only so much you can make people believe. Not shameful advertising Mr. Kojima? Really? That's about as shameful you can get.
Also how in the blue hell can I regain health by applying a man's body spray to myself? Now I know Mr. Kojima supposedly wants to make things fresh and new but there's only so much you can make people believe. Not shameful advertising Mr. Kojima? Really? That's about as shameful you can get.
OH NOES, THE GAME USES A REAL WORLD PRODUCT INSTEAD OF A MADE UP ONE, OH THE HUMANITY.Caiti Voltaire said:
/sarcasm
This is what I mean, people think its intrusive, but are they really shallow enough to go out and buy something because a game told them too?