Konami pulls out of Console Gaming

[Worgen]

I wouldn't be surprised to see them go since they seem to be making a lot of bad choices and hemorrhaging talented people left and right.

 

[Wasted]

Anyone but Kojima making Metal Gear would mean sub-par Metal Gear.

Non-Kojima MG might not be that bad. The series has been desperately in need of an editor since MGS. Removal of the bloated scenes and convoluted plot would be a big plus to the series.

 

[Riotguards]

bye bye Konami thanks for all the fish

 

[Foolery]

I don't think that's ever going to happen. I've heard multiple people state that on top of the CEO being a power hungry idiot, Konami also makes a butt ton of cash on Japanese gambling machinces. (If I'm wrong please correct me.) to the point where they just don't give a fuck about their videogaming routes.

Gambling isn't legal in Japan, but they are banking on the idea that in the near future it might be. They do have some slot machines in the US.

 

[sageoftruth]

They could always go the Fox route and just sit on IPs they have no intention of ever using for "reasons". Why sell their Silent Hill license when they can make a Silent Hill themed pinball machine for instance.

Nah. There's too much skill required to play pinball. They're going pachinko all the way.

 

[sageoftruth]

Anyone but Kojima making Metal Gear would mean sub-par Metal Gear.

Metal Gear without Kojima wouldn't even be Metal Gear. It might have the mechanics of Metal Gear, but Kojima's a special kind of weird that you can't just imitate.

 

[EvilRoy]

I don't think any of the above companies you listed will buy out Metal Gear or Silent Hill (and if I'm not mistaken the American companies wouldn't be able to even if they wanted to due to Japanese laws.) but I wouldn't be surprised if they just willy nilly let anyone and their dog have license rights for one game and quality goes to the trashcan.

I actually looked in to that the other day, and I don't think it is strictly true. So you as a person can definitely own stock in a Japanese company, you would just have to own it 'second hand' through a Japanese broker, or someone who has been licensed to trade in Japan. Similar to how it works with a regular broker here where you give them money to manage your stocks and accounts for you, but rather in this case you have given a broker money so they can buy stocks for themselves, but you get the dividends and decide how they manage their stocks. That works small time, but I think it wouldn't large time because its a little legally sketchy. I was surprised at how readily people were willing to do it though.

As far as IP goes though, Metal Gear or Silent Hill are just properties. Anyone can buy them, because you aren't taking partial/full ownership of a company, just buying the copyright, distribution and development rights to a product. As to whether they would do it, I dunno. If they are just flat done with gaming in general, they may as well sell it to the highest bidder. If they want to continue with game development on PC/mobile, then they would probably keep it.

 

[Jaggededge11]

If Nintendo buys them, getting Silent Hill and MGS on their systems could actually give them an edge they need.

I think this is the first time I've seen someone say "What if Nintendo buys them" and I thought "nah, I don't want that."

While you likely wouldn't see a MGS or Silent Hill from Nintendo (At least not for a long time), Nintendo would probably give some long overdue love to franchises that needed it (Like Contra, Castlevania, Gradius and Goemon)

 

[tstorm823]

I think this is the first time I've seen someone say "What if Nintendo buys them" and I thought "nah, I don't want that."

Damn right. It's bad enough the remake of MGS1 was Gamecube only. I don't want the one franchies I've always been able to get on Playstation suddenly go to Nintendo exclusively.[/quote]

I mean, I am a Nintendo guy these days. I just think back on my metal gear memories and think "I don't want to fight the pain on this platform. It'd be weird."

I think this is the first time I've seen someone say "What if Nintendo buys them" and I thought "nah, I don't want that."

While you likely wouldn't see a MGS or Silent Hill from Nintendo (At least not for a long time), Nintendo would probably give some long overdue love to franchises that needed it (Like Contra, Castlevania, Gradius and Goemon)[/quote]

I don't think so. Nintendo has enough of their own iconic franchises stagnating.

 

[Zenn3k]

So how much will the likes of EA/Activision/Square/MS/Sony be willing to fork over for the likes of Metal Gear and Silent Hill? Would love to see Visceral take a crack at Silent Hill, hell would like to see what Naughtu Dog would do with Metal Gear.

RIP Konami.

So, lets call it, 2018 for Konami filing for Bankruptcy? There is very little money in Mobile games anymore, at least here in the states (probably bigger in Japan). The whole mobile realm has been so saturated with junk free to play, pay to win games that "mobile games" is a dirty word in the states.

 

[Poetic Nova]

Not really a loss, I suppose. As some might have stated already, Konami is a shadow of its former self anyway. When it comes to gaming atleast.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

Anyone but Kojima making Metal Gear would mean sub-par Metal Gear.

But...Kojima making Metal Gear is STILL sub-par Metal Gear. How can it get any worse!?

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

They're not even bothering to do what Sega is doing and supporting PC in place of console....

This new President of Konami is poison.

 

[senordesol]

For those of you wondering if Konami's going to get into the mobile game biz; they're already in it (worked in that division for 2.5 years, actually).

Don't work there anymore, so don't consider this a plug; but if you're curious:
-Star Wars: Force Collection
-Swords & Poker Adventures

 

[Vivi22]

So how much will the likes of EA/Activision/Square/MS/Sony be willing to fork over for the likes of Metal Gear and Silent Hill? Would love to see Visceral take a crack at Silent Hill, hell would like to see what Naughtu Dog would do with Metal Gear.

Considering they'd still be able to use those licenses in the future outside of games and they're probably still lucrative I don't think they'll ever sell them. License them to other companies to make games maybe, but that's it.

And I'll say right now that Visceral would be a terrible choice to make a Silent Hill game since they're about as heavy handed with the horror side of the survival horror genre as you can get when Silent Hill should be the exact opposite. And Naughty Dog isn't even remotely weird enough to do MGS justice.

 

[Pinkilicious]

Anyone but Kojima making Metal Gear would mean sub-par Metal Gear.

Metal Gear without Kojima wouldn't even be Metal Gear. It might have the mechanics of Metal Gear, but Kojima's a special kind of weird that you can't just imitate.

hmmmmmmmm
Suda 51 Metal Gear?
Hideki Kamiya Metal Gear?
Jun Iwasaki Metal Gear?

...Or how about we amp up the sexy to really trigger everyone?
SELL METAL GEAR TO MASAYA!!!!
Satoshi Urushihara and Toshiro Tsuchida teaming up to bring you Metal Gear Sexy: Big Brother edition!

 

[Scarim Coral]

Yeah this isn't suprising given to the recent event with their companies and they do seen more invested in those gamling games than they did with their console games.

Still the president is not wrong thought given these days everyone are into mobile gaming.

 

[McMarbles]

It was already dead, they're just noting the time.

 

[ChaoGuy2006]

So how much will the likes of EA/Activision/Square/MS/Sony be willing to fork over for the likes of Metal Gear and Silent Hill? Would love to see Visceral take a crack at Silent Hill, hell would like to see what Naughtu Dog would do with Metal Gear.

Considering they'd still be able to use those licenses in the future outside of games and they're probably still lucrative I don't think they'll ever sell them. License them to other companies to make games maybe, but that's it.

And I'll say right now that Visceral would be a terrible choice to make a Silent Hill game since they're about as heavy handed with the horror side of the survival horror genre as you can get when Silent Hill should be the exact opposite. And Naughty Dog isn't even remotely weird enough to do MGS justice.

TBA, why do we even need another Silent Hill? The team behind the original franchise has long been scattered. Not to mention Kojima and Deltoro have said in interviews they are keen on doing it still.

If the pair of them made a kickstarter to make a new horror-game (who's initials may happen to be PT), I think it'd be funded quite quickly. If a famous series turns bad, let someone else take up the mantle of it a 'la Yooka-Laylee.

Yeah this isn't suprising given to the recent event with their companies and they do seen more invested in those gamling games than they did with their console games.

Still the president is not wrong thought given these days everyone are into mobile gaming.

But (IIRC) there was an article explaining many companies that focus purely on mobile development fail within a year. Then again, I'm not sure if that took into consideration amateurs who where bound to fail.

 

[sageoftruth]

Anyone but Kojima making Metal Gear would mean sub-par Metal Gear.

Metal Gear without Kojima wouldn't even be Metal Gear. It might have the mechanics of Metal Gear, but Kojima's a special kind of weird that you can't just imitate.

hmmmmmmmm
Suda 51 Metal Gear?
Hideki Kamiya Metal Gear?
Jun Iwasaki Metal Gear?

...Or how about we amp up the sexy to really trigger everyone?
SELL METAL GEAR TO MASAYA!!!!
Satoshi Urushihara and Toshiro Tsuchida teaming up to bring you Metal Gear Sexy: Big Brother edition!

I'd love to see what would result from that. It would definitely have a weird charm to it, but it seems there's more than one way to pull off weird. Kojima has this funny awkwardness to his weirdness, like he's genuinely trying to impress us by doing what he thinks is super cool, but instead is amusing us by falling flat on his face, in an Ed Wood sort of way. I don't know if he's charmingly out of touch when trying to implement the rule of cool or if he's just brilliantly good at faking it, but a game without that quality would not feel very Kojima. Doesn't mean it couldn't be good, but I don't think his absence would go unnoticed.