Konami's Pachinko Hate: Why?

[Cowabungaa]

Please point to where I said that. Like, I want a specific quote where I say that.

You didn't, because me saying that wasn't a 100% literal thing. What I meant is that mostly what I see is people I care about a franchise they love. And those people are being called "entitled" by you.

Oh and as for people who would send death threats to Konami over this and stuff like that? Fuck 'em. Fuck those people. Those are not the people I'm talking about and neither is it intellectually honest to use that very small fraction of people to make a point about everyone who gives a shit about Konami doing what it does. Let that be very clear.

Anyway, you seem to be completely missing (or ignoring, seeing as how the only thing you quoted is that tiny, frivolous bit of my post) the point. Entitlement doesn't come into play because people thinking Konami owes them something doesn't come into play. What you say is completely irrelevant.

 

[Spider RedNight]

I came here to post my evident disdain for the monsters known as "Konami" because of their "it's OUR game and WE wanna make pachinko machines and NO ONE ELSE is EVER allowed to do anything with the franchises EVER" mentality (which has nothing to do with how Silent Hill is my favourite series and I was so looking forward to Guillermo and Norman Reedus in my favourite series only to not even get to try out the P.T. before they're like "nope just kidding pachinko machines!") not to mention how shitty they treat their employees and instead there's a couple of off-beat comments saying that people who share this line of thinking are "entitled".

I never really thought of it that way, thinking I was entitled. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to go ruin a third-world nation because diamonds are shiny and I need them while blasting "Royals" by Lorde.

But seriously though, it's not the fact that the pachinko machines are a thing. Silent Hill and Metal Gear Solid and etc. are great games that deserve better than Pachinko machines from a selfish company that not only decided to pull out of games but aren't even letting other companies keep making them. Like... wasn't Metal Gear Solid Kojima's thing originally? And he's not allowed to make any more games?

I will... probably edit this sometime in the near future. 'Til then, enjoy my department of redundancy department-style writing.

 

[bastardofmelbourne]

It upset me mainly because I have a personal distaste for slot-machine style gambling.

Reading about Konami shifting their business in reaction to new Japanese gambling laws and shafting their video game developers in the process left a bad taste in my mouth. It's the callousness of it; the idea that you don't have to make a good product, you just need to peddle a piece of shit slot machine to gambling addicts and slowly drain them of their financial liquidity like some kind of money vampire.

I really, really, really hate casinos, in case you didn't notice. That may be clouding my judgment; I don't care. Fuck casinos, man.

 

[Lightspeaker]

I don't quite get why people are so vehemently replying to someone who has demonstrated again and again that they take delight in straw-manning arguments, misrepresenting people and sowing hatred and strife around these forums. Its a waste of time to argue the point.


On topic:
The reasons have been given over and over again but can probably be summarised as:
- Zero respect shown to employees who have built them into the company they are today.
- Zero respect shown to the IPs created by those employees, which were what made them a market leader in the industry.
- Zero respect shown to the customers who bought into those franchises and whose money literally built their business.

 

[Sigmund Av Volsung]

Konami is using very beloved, very story-heavy franchises to sell Pachinko machines in a domestic market, where most of their stuff (Castlevania, Silent Hill, Metal Gear Solid) has had a significant market overseas.

People have written story analyses and essays on some of the aforementioned game franchises, and to a lot of people, Silent Hill 2 and Metal Gear Solid 3 are the peak of games as an art form.

It's absolutely ludicrous. It'd be like if there was a Journey-themed sandwich place where they played music from the game and had those red ghost things on the drinks.

 

[gyrobot_v1legacy]

I don't quite get why people are so vehemently replying to someone who has demonstrated again and again that they take delight in straw-manning arguments, misrepresenting people and sowing hatred and strife around these forums. Its a waste of time to argue the point.


On topic:
The reasons have been given over and over again but can probably be summarised as:
- Zero respect shown to employees who have built them into the company they are today.
- Zero respect shown to the IPs created by those employees, which were what made them a market leader in the industry.
- Zero respect shown to the customers who bought into those franchises and whose money literally built their business.

Amyss has a very unpopular opinion from the get go, but Amyss is right, Konami isn't losing any money over this and this is the sole PoC for any company, ethics, fandom and nostalgia be damned.

 

[Vykrel]

it isnt the fact that they are making pachinko machines, its about the mistreatment of their developers and mishandling of their franchises in favor of pachinko machines that made everyone so angry.

 

[Lightspeaker]

Amyss has a very unpopular opinion from the get go, but Amyss is right, Konami isn't losing any money over this and this is the sole PoC for any company, ethics, fandom and nostalgia be damned.

I wasn't talking about just this thread, its a pattern of behaviour. But I'm out of this thread now, because I'm fully expecting an attack on my character and some subtle abuse.

 

[minkus_draconus]

Amyss has a very unpopular opinion from the get go, but Amyss is right, Konami isn't losing any money over this and this is the sole PoC for any company, ethics, fandom and nostalgia be damned.

I wasn't talking about just this thread, its a pattern of behaviour. But I'm out of this thread now, because I'm fully expecting an attack on my character and some subtle abuse.

All of this is making me think of the Monty Python argument sketch.