LA Noire - frustrating interrogations

[distended]

Only thing that really bothers me is when my character, a detective mind you, picks up a diary and says,"Hmm, this is probably nothing." A detective would at least see what is written in it right?

I know right. I wish they'd turn it into an unskippable cutscene where you read through the entire diary and then determine it's probably nothing.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Only thing that really bothers me is when my character, a detective mind you, picks up a diary and says,"Hmm, this is probably nothing." A detective would at least see what is written in it right?

I know right. I wish they'd turn it into an unskippable cutscene where you read through the entire diary and then determine it's probably nothing.

Did you really need need to be so sarcastic and demeaning to him? Sad.

The way the game's mechanics run anyway, it always skips to the relevant page when Cole opens a book. That's all they would have had to do. It looks silly when he just puts things down without checking properly.

But hey, you probably have some sarcastic response to me too.

 

[Kopikatsu]

Cole: *Soft voice* Ma'am, I understand that this is hard for you, but did you hear anything last night?

Woman: I'm sorry, I didn't...*very slight shifty eyes*

*Selects doubt, thinking that Cole will ask something like 'Are you sure?'

Cole: OH COME ON! AN OLD HAG LIKE YOU HAS TO HEAR EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON IN THIS JOINT!

Me:...Oh God, Cole. WHY?! Well, I've failed this question...

Woman: OKAY, OKAY! I heard something outside of the window on the second floor, but I think it was just a raccoon or something.

Cole: Thank you for your help, Ma'am.

Woman: Oh, you're very welcome.

Question Correct!

Me: ...What. The. Fuck.

 

[MarkDavis94]

I understand you it can be frustrating but I'm still loving the game
I often spend too much time worrying about whats gonna happen if I press Doubt,
Doubt
YOU KILLED HIM AND HID THE EVIDENCE ROOOOOAAAAAAAR
fuck sake Cole they only said they went out for a drink

 

[MiracleOfSound]

I understand you it can be frustrating but I'm still loving the game
I often spend too much time worrying about whats gonna happen if I press Doubt,
Doubt
YOU KILLED HIM AND HID THE EVIDENCE ROOOOOAAAAAAAR
fuck sake Cole they only said they went out for a drink

Lol... exactly.

Lady: 'Oh, I think it might have been around 12 o'clock... I'm not so sure... hmm (tries to remember)'
HIT 'DOUBT'
Cole: 'WITHHOLDING EVIDENCE IS A CRIMINAL OFFENCE I'LL HAVE YOU LOCKED UP AND EATEN BY RATS RAAAARGH'
Lady: 'You're a rude man get out of my house'

 

[MarkDavis94]

I understand you it can be frustrating but I'm still loving the game
I often spend too much time worrying about whats gonna happen if I press Doubt,
Doubt
YOU KILLED HIM AND HID THE EVIDENCE ROOOOOAAAAAAAR
fuck sake Cole they only said they went out for a drink

Lol... exactly.

Lady: 'Oh, I think it might have been around 12 o'clock... I'm not so sure... hmm (tries to remember)'
HIT 'DOUBT'
Cole: 'WITHHOLDING EVIDENCE IS A CRIMINAL OFFENCE I'LL HAVE YOU LOCKED UP AND EATEN BY RATS RAAAARGH'
Lady: 'You're a rude man get out of my house'

hahahah mate its ridiculous, they should have
Hold LT to be nice Cole, hold RT to be a wanker
I always go for truth because I'm too afraid off having my speakers explode from Cole shouting at someone because they aren't crying enough at the death of someone

 

[Woodsey]

This made me just drop the game. It was only the first interrogation where you're talking to the guy who ran after you came to see him about the murder of a person he was recently arguing with.

He said he had nothing to do with the murder. I said he was lying and chose THE MURDER WEAPON THAT HE OWNED as evidence.

It gave me a little "Incorrect". So I restarted the mission and decided "screw it, I'm not sitting through all this again", because it was a LONG way back to that one scene.

Haven't booted it up since.

Agreed. It's total BS. Logic from the Silent Hill 1 retardo-puzzle days.

Funny how none of the reviews point out this huge fundamental flaw in the game.

Even though its developed by Bondi, most see it as a Rockstar game. And criticising that can generally lead others to accusing you of attention seeking.

I imagine its part of the reason why the generally not-very-good GTA IV hardly dropped a single mark.

Well they are late 1940s cars, those things were giant death bricks of metal that handled like cows on an Ice rink

At least they're more fun to drive than those big boulders of steel in Mafia 2

Watch your mouth. The game has issues - but the driving is wonderful. NO EXCEPTIONS!

 

[Lost In The Void]

I personally haven't had any of those issues, having played the game in entire 20 hour binge...which was awesome; pizza and pepsi for the win.

Anyways, when it comes down to it, the only problem I had was the doubt option sometimes elevating more than I expected it to, as mentioned by others before; at the end of the case though; if I fail a Lie check I end up seeing what I did wrong and what I missed. I never restarted either, I wanted to get a feel of what it was like.

Still pissed I missed one of the Newspapers though

 

[distended]

Only thing that really bothers me is when my character, a detective mind you, picks up a diary and says,"Hmm, this is probably nothing." A detective would at least see what is written in it right?

I know right. I wish they'd turn it into an unskippable cutscene where you read through the entire diary and then determine it's probably nothing.

Did you really need need to be so sarcastic and demeaning to him? Sad.

The way the game's mechanics run anyway, it always skips to the relevant page when Cole opens a book. That's all they would have had to do. It looks silly when he just puts things down without checking properly.

But hey, you probably have some sarcastic response to me too.

My bad. I'm sorry.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Watch your mouth. The game has issues - but the driving is wonderful. NO EXCEPTIONS!

Mafia 2? Hehe, I had a few issues with that one too. But then again, I have issues with most games I play (only one I can think of recently that I didn't get annoyed with at some point was Dead Space 2, which was, in my eyes, pretty much perfect)

The thing that bugged me in Mafia 2 was the damn cops and how they would give chase if someone else so much as grazed off your car. Dropped it to easy for my second playthrough though and it's more fun this way.

 

[Tdc2182]

Hmm... Bummer.

Oh well, I'm borrowing it free of charge in a bit so I can't complain.

 

[Elamdri]

It's not a "Flaw in the game." Your choices have consequences. You can either live with your wrong decision or you can CHEAT and restart the mission. And your punishment for that is that you have to do the whole thing over again.

The game does not end if you screw up. You live with the consequences of your decisions. Like real life cops.

Maybe you should read the OP before commenting. I'm not talking about times the player screws up, I'm talking about times that the game's logic makes no sense.

Christ, I'm tired of explaining this. I DID read your comment. The lying mechanic in LA Noire is HARDCORE. You have to catch them dead in a lie, and you're not allowed to make logical leaps. I did the same mistake you did with that guy and his gun and then realized I was wrong; just because his gun was used in the shooting doesn't mean he did it.

 

[dontlooknow]

Maybe you should read the OP post, He owned the gun, the gunstore manager confirmed this, yet, its not considered a correct answer. Which is really stupid.

I made the same mistake the OP did. Just because he owned the gun doesn't not prove that he shot the man.

Beyond reasonable doubt? The gun was at the scene, he was confirmed at the scene, its already obvious that the gun was used.

Maybe I just suck at this game.

There's plenty of explanations. The woman was lying about him being there. Someone stole his gun to frame him.

Maybe the woman stole his gun, shot her boss, then lied to frame the man.

The point is that the eyewitness testimony and the gun belonging to that man don't definitively prove that he shot the man. It's definitely overwhelming evidence, but as I just demonstrated, there are other plausible scenarios that would account for their existence that don't end in him being the murderer.

I haven't had the chance to play the game yet, and judging by the majority of posts on here, there are issues with it, but that it can spark an argument like the one above surely proves that the game's doing something right? I mean, you don't get many games that provoke this sort of pseudo-law-speak.

 

[Ih8pkmn]

My only problem is the driving. I fucking fly all over the road in my car.

Ha, yeah the driving is very strange... the tiniest thumb movement sends you swerving off to the left or right. Takes a bit of getting used to for sure.

That and the braking(spelling fails for the win). I enjoy reaching top speed quick, but then I fear for my life when it takes forever to actually stop the car and I manage to ram into 3 other cars while doing it. That warranted a restart.

This is just my opinion, but I think the driving in this game is alot better than it is in GTA4. Seriously, the driving in there was like a bad joke that never ended.

OT: Cole is inconsistent, isn't he? He's trying to play good cop and bad cop simultaneously, and it comes out as just plain weird.

Also, I've found that, if you wait long enough on a question, the incorrect answers will eliminate themselves. This happen to anyone else?

 

[sindremaster]

I loved how cole calls a woman a nosy old hag then two seconds later it's thank you for you help ma'am as if nothing happened.

 

[sindremaster]

This is just my opinion, but I think the driving in this game is alot better than it is in GTA4. Seriously, the driving in there was like a bad joke that never ended.

agreed

OT: Cole is inconsistent, isn't he? He's trying to play good cop and bad cop simultaneously, and it comes out as just plain weird.

agreed again

Also, I've found that, if you wait long enough on a question, the incorrect answers will eliminate themselves. This happen to anyone else?

No, but i'll have to try that.

 

[gyroscopeboy]

I'm not going to post any spoilers here, just make some general observations.


3. Restarting missions and unskippable cutscenes. None of this would bother me that much if we didn't have to sit through the whole case again to re-do an interrogation... including the age old cardinal gaming sin of having to sit through unskippable cut-scenes (seriously, Bondi?).

Hey man, if you're failing an interrogation press pause and quit to the main menu and then reload your save...it will take you to just before the interrogation, outside the police HQ. This also works for questioning people in the field, but you MAY have to find all the clues again.

I was heaps frustrated before i discovered that haha, i restarted whole missions a few times.

 

[MikeCrick]

As has already been said, as annoying as it can be I find it quite refreshing for a game to not just allow me to be awesome all the time.

We all make mistakes and read into things the wrong way, I get frustrated when I pick something wrong but more so at myself than the game. It provides a challenge and the fact that you can't 'cheat' and just repeat an interrogation makes you take each one more seriously.

I dunno, it could also be that LA Noir is kinda refreshing in this recent slew of shooters and RPGs. Neither of which are bad, but it's good to see them trying something new.

However I am Australian and one of my good friends worked on the game at Team Bondi so maybe I have bias haha

 

[Elamdri]

Maybe you should read the OP post, He owned the gun, the gunstore manager confirmed this, yet, its not considered a correct answer. Which is really stupid.

I made the same mistake the OP did. Just because he owned the gun doesn't not prove that he shot the man.

despite the bullets found at the scene, the witness that places him at the scene who also claimed he shot the person, in broad daylight.

That would of been motive and means, enough to put him on trial.

Remember though, we're not talking about this in the context of trial. I mean, to be honest, that guy would lose a jury trial so fast it's not even funny. The Lying mechanic in LA Noire from what I have seen tends to work off a system of hard contradictions. I mentioned in another post in this thread that it's entire possible that the girl could have been lying and just because it was his gun that was used doesn't prove that he shot him. LA Noire lying works more like someone saying "I was home at 9:00" and you have a airline stub for a 9:00 flight in their name that was used.

But what I get from the game is that 90% of the choices will always be Doubt, 10% will be lie or truth.

Still though, I like games that force me to think rather than shoot, which is sad that I couldnt find peaceful solutions to some of the many shoot-outs Ive responded to in the game.

I mean, who knew that getting shot in the hand is DEADLY?

forget disarming suspects, its either kill or be killed.

Remember that's it's stylized to be like a crime noir film. It's not so much about the peaceful solution. It's gritty justice.

As for interrogations, I think people are getting caught up in this 100% completion, perfect run through mentality, and that's not how the game is meant to be played. Getting something wrong can have just as much meaning for the story as getting everything right.

 

[crop52]

HEY GUYS! Public service announcement!

if you feel that the game has bullshitted you in some way or another, press start and choose "quit" instead of "restart," but do it before the interrogation sequence ends, and then resume from the main menu,

if you do this, you can resume the from a reasonably earlier spot, instead of just starting the entire case over,

yeah, definitely came in handy whenever the game pulls some crap on me,
i enjoy the game, but sometimes it's just full of bollocks,