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RaDeuX

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I'm 22 years old now, and I have three more quarters of community college (winter, spring, summer) if all goes as planned. That means I've taken four years as opposed to two or three years that most people take to transfer (I've met one person who transferred half a year early). I don't mind that I'm taking four years, but everyone keeps telling me to hurry up. Why? I'm very physically fit and hardly get sick, so I'll be one of the oldest beings I've come across my entire life (implying that the vast majority of people I've met live very unhealthy lives). I'm not sure why getting my degree on time will make any difference to my life. My UC TAG got accepted for UC Santa Cruz, so I will be attempting to get my bachelor's degree in computer science there.

I understand that my time management skills suck major arse and that my sporadic sleep schedule gets in the way of focusing in class. I've been trying to fix my sleep schedule to a more consistent one. I've taken over-the-counter sleeping aids and ambien, but it only makes matters worse by keeping me groggy all day. My time management on the other hand is more of a self-discipline issue.

There are those lame excuses, followed by my irrational mother. She won't allow me to take naps during the day (because that's what losers and lowlives do, though I am probably either one of the two) and makes life stressful for my father, younger brother, and myself by going batshit insane over small things. My brother is 16, but he has the worst acne I have ever seen (it doesn't help that he's in high school with people commenting on his acne all day), and oral medication is not stopping it either. I believe that it's from all the stress that our mother is causing all of us (my father's hair is starting to grow white ever since the economy went bad and was very close to losing his job). Both my brother and I realize that my mother wants us to go to college, only because she's ashamed of herself for having two academically unsuccessful sons during her annoying housewife chats. She forced me to go to Saturday school where I was bullied constantly, yet severely punished for defending myself by both the bullies and authoritative figures. She forced my brother to play the violin, as she was jealous of her friend's son being able to play it so well (seriously, he played some crazy shit at the age of 7).

I received a lot of flak at my last internship. At the time I was going to school full time and was also preparing to compete in amateur boxing (which I failed to do, as I have way too much muscle mass from track & field). Getting 8 hours of sleep was hard, so I fell asleep on my laptop often. I also didn't have a lot of time to complete assignments, so I kept getting asked "Do you REALLY want to become a developer? You don't seem motivated at all." The general consensus is that software developers lose a lot of sleep, which sucks more for me as an athlete. Plus, web development is really boring, IMHO.

I had to quit boxing ($70/month can get expensive...) as UC tuitions are going up, and my father can pay no more than two years worth of tuition. I need to go find a job to pay for my housing, so I'm attempting to study for a CompTIA A+ Certification exam, but my motivation has stooped to an all-time low. I dropped both my calculus and physics classes. I feel like a failure, and my mother helps affirm that situation. Perhaps I don't feel like trying anymore due to the fear of failure. I'm currently going to inexpensive mental therapy sessions, which is at least helping some of my symptoms with possible depression.

TL;DR, I need to find motivation to help me get my bachelor's in computer science. I feel like a failure. I don't have anyone to turn to for advice.
 

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I need this help too. One year away from graduation, and bam, my fiance leaves me and I am left depressed, distraught, and spend more time crying than writing papers. And this is AFTER i survived ALL the "Weed-out" courses.

FML.
 

RaDeuX

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Fawcks said:
I need this help too. One year away from graduation, and bam, my fiance leaves me and I am left depressed, distraught, and spend more time crying than writing papers. And this is AFTER i survived ALL the "Weed-out" courses.

FML.
I'm currently reading through your thread, actually. It sounds like you're in a much worse situation than I am. As much as I'd like to give advice, I don't have any answers myself, except that I find counseling helps a little bit (my second session with my therapist was on thursday).
 

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It's good to know you're on the way. Sadly, I cannot see a therapist until I get my government prescribed health coverage renewed... And I don't want to tell my family, but I need them there with me to get it.

Gah.
 

RaDeuX

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Fawcks said:
It's good to know you're on the way. Sadly, I cannot see a therapist until I get my government prescribed health coverage renewed... And I don't want to tell my family, but I need them there with me to get it.

Gah.
Since I'm currently unemployed, my therapy sessions are only $5 each. But I read through more of your posts, and it seems like you're having enough financial issues with bills. Maybe there's a hotline that you can call?
 

Fawcks

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Where I work has a sponsored hotline, but I am honestly afraid of going for therapy because, really, it would make me feel like such a failure to acknowledge that this is not something that I can fix myself.
 

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Fawcks said:
Where I work has a sponsored hotline, but I am honestly afraid of going for therapy because, really, it would make me feel like such a failure to acknowledge that this is not something that I can fix myself.
Honestly, it just feels better to just have someone who genuinely listens to what you have to say. Personally, that to me is not an issue of being successful or a failure.
 

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I'm extremely afraid of being perceived as weak, and that exactly what I feel I am right now.

Weak.

And I feel freaking terrible about it. I am being torn up by it.
 

RaDeuX

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Fawcks said:
I'm extremely afraid of being perceived as weak, and that exactly what I feel I am right now.

Weak.

And I feel freaking terrible about it. I am being torn up by it.
I'm an INTP, which is basically an individual that acts primarily on logic, and intuition as backup. Hence, I find that it's worth feeling "weak" for a little bit, only to come out strong in the end.

If you've ever read "You've GOT to read this book", a lot of famous and successful people in the book explained how they have felt "weak" (even at the peak of their careers) until each one of them found a lot of influences from completely different kinds of books. It's a pretty good read, IMHO. I recommend reading up on the ones you know about (I know very few famous people, as celebrity/famous people gossip is not very enjoyable for me). As someone previously posted on your thread, we're not alone in this fight.
 

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Even so, I can't help but feel I won't be able to take the backlash.

Meh. I have totally hijacked your topic.

Where are the motivated people!?
 

RaDeuX

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Fawcks said:
Even so, I can't help but feel I won't be able to take the backlash.

Meh. I have totally hijacked your topic.

Where are the motivated people!?
Don't know if you don't try. Seriously.

Yep, you totally have. But it has helped me a little bit trying to give you advice, as well as reading through your own thread. I think the biggest issue is that you need some sort of influence. I can't help you any further than that, as I'm still looking for something influential myself.

I'm not sure. I'm somewhat surprised that no one else has contributed to my thread yet, although it will probably be fairly similar to the posts made in your thread.
 

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Well, I did get some good advice. Someone motivated me to write more paragraphs!

Much better than the advice my one friend gave.

Told me to go out and date again -IMMEDIATELY-.
 

RaDeuX

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Fawcks said:
Well, I did get some good advice. Someone motivated me to write more paragraphs!

Much better than the advice my one friend gave.

Told me to go out and date again -IMMEDIATELY-.
If writing more paragraphs makes you feel better, then all the better.

Yeah... Jumping the gun is only going to end with a lot of consequences.
 

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Well, it's work done! Work done is GRRRRREAT!

And more people need to help this guy out! I love this guy. He's like a duck. Ducks are tasty and delicious.
 

RaDeuX

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Fawcks said:
Well, it's work done! Work done is GRRRRREAT!

And more people need to help this guy out! I love this guy. He's like a duck. Ducks are tasty and delicious.
Actually, it's a chocobo. :3
 

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The advice i would give you cannot be posted on this forum.

I'll sum it up for you and compare your mother to keeping an untamed animal in the house. Your father bought it but never trained it, and now it just runs wild. The simplest form of training an animal is just to punish bad behavior and reward good behavior. So do it.

If you'd like more info, PM me.
 

RaDeuX

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Zaik said:
The advice i would give you cannot be posted on this forum.

I'll sum it up for you and compare your mother to keeping an untamed animal in the house. Your father bought it but never trained it, and now it just runs wild. The simplest form of training an animal is just to punish bad behavior and reward good behavior. So do it.

If you'd like more info, PM me.
Not the greatest of advices, IMHO, but advice nonetheless. Thanks for your input.
 

Erana

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I ask this of everyone I hear has trouble in their lives: Are you eating regularly and decently?
Fawcks said:
I need this help too. One year away from graduation, and bam, my fiance leaves me and I am left depressed, distraught, and spend more time crying than writing papers. And this is AFTER i survived ALL the "Weed-out" courses.

FML.
This goes for you, too. Have you gotten regular meals like I told you?
(Telling people to eat food is the closest thing I can get to casting cure through the internet. Humor me, please)

That being said, it just sounds like you've been in the exact sorts of situations that would condition you to dislike academics.
Do you really want an education? I mean, you've gotten this far. Why not just tune out your mother and finish school for yourself?

As for the sleep issue, I suggest trying to go to bed as soon as you get back from class/whatever you need to do. I was having symptoms of narcolepsy due to my mysterious health issues, and found that if I guaranteed a full night's sleep, I could read my textbooks without falling asleep... At 4:00 AM, yes, but generally, it worked.