Large Hadron Collider Could Be World's First Time Machine

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Alpha Maeko

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"The World is going to end. Please send me all your credit card information so I can properly save the world in the future."
 

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Oscar90 said:
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It's a false theory. If it was true wouldn't we already have gotten those messages?
I think you need some kind of other machine to receive the messages...
Then sending messages to the past would be useless since no one would be able to pick them up. I guess the future is the only possible route here.
 

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xanovich said:
A simple message is enough to mess it up!
But what if everything is in the future as we make it to be now.
Example if we send a message to past to me saying don't fart next to the stranger with pink hair. But future has been laid out so that I have already received the message, so that when I get the message in past and time goes on and after I send it the result will be the same.
Hold on... That makes no sense.

But in basic, time is not an universe it is a status. So if I change the status of the past it wont change the status of future, otherwise I would need to be able to change the status of everything the state of evey particle would need to change.

Umm.. still doesn't sound right.

What if future is just as we lay it out to be now. No matter if we change the past it doesn't change what is now. Think them as 2 time lines, one will go on, one will change.

In a sense (Or rather nonsense) Can we jump in to the same river twice? We do not know what time is yet. Is it a state, a moving object, a wall, energy or something that doesn't exist at all.

I personally think that there is no time. It isn't anything. Things just go on. Universe just keeps moving forward

¨But hold on. Didn't the article mention that the singlet can move in time but matter can't. So If I receive message from future the matter of the future wont change but the matter of our future will change.

Or just forget this message, this is confusing me... Ill just take some tramadol and go back to sleep.
 

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We would most likely start receiving messages from the "future" the moment someone got that hing working.

Creepy...
Whats even more terrifying is that they're most likely going to send us the exact date for mankind's destruction...
Who knows about that, but if that thing ended up being true (doubtful) and someone built a machine that could encode information within a bunch of those singlets (even more doubtful), you could bet your ass that the moment someone turned the link that goes both way on, the thing would suddenly start receiving information from the future as it would be likely that a future would exist where the machine had already been operational for a while--the issue would be which future would that be? A few seconds after launch, a few hours, a few years, etc.?

Oh, science, how I love thee.
 

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It's still not gonna happen. Modern physics suggests that 'time travel' into the future in a basic form is possible providing that we find a way to go faster than the speed of light. I won't go into depth, but I'm pretty positive past travel cannot occur. Just pissing on the minority of people's parades here.
 

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Well, if this Higgs particle does exist, we could have limited time travel - travel from the point the machine was created to - theoretically - the end of time. If data is sent forwards and backwards through time, and we had machines which could replicate the human body (Nanobiotics, perhaps? There would be an issue in maintaining long-term cerebral stability, but still...) then a person in the future could 'time-travel' back to when the machine was first created. All of the data required to create the person (And replicate their brain patterns) would be sent backwards in time using the Higgs Singlet, and when it is received in the 'past' that person could be made on the spot. Technically it's time travel! Kinda.
 

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time travel is just a big ass paradox , also if this is a potential time machine in Theory the fact that we have no messages from the future at this very moment proves we dont invent a time machine ever...
You don't know that for certain. For all us plebs now the US government has a secret division classified above top secret that has been receiving messages from the future for any period of time. Why I could even be a time traveler who is under strict regulation to not alter anything on pain of death.

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We have had time travelers already," Gott said in an interview at his Peyton Hall office. "The greatest time traveler so far is (cosmonaut) Sergei Avdeyev, who, by virtue of being on space flights for 748 days, is one-fiftieth of a second younger than if he had stayed home. So that man has traveled one-fiftieth of a second into the future."

Just leave that here. Also the parallel universe theory and paradoxes being possible allow for time travel into the past. Effective time travel (travelling a decent distance into the past or future) would be hard for most substances to survive intact.

Also going back and stopping hitler from rising to power might sound noble and just but it would cripple technological advancements and leave Germany a third world country, allowing Russia instead to rise to power in its place creating a Soviet superstate beyond anything seen in the cold war. Russia might also capture Oppenheimer and the other great scientists who flew the holocaust leaving them the only Nuclear state in the world. A war was inevitable back then.

Also taking out Hitler would delay the plans of the real evil guy, Himmler. Hitler was a powerful speaker but Himmler was the brains behind a lot of the idealogy.
 

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I just wonder when are they going to make portals?
Them we could have fun with science... even if it kills us. :D
 

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If we did have a time machine, wouldn't we have received the fricking message now? God damn people are idiots.
 

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Tom Goldman said:
Weiler describes the theory as a "long shot," but believes it's possible because it doesn't violate any laws of physics and "avoids all the big paradoxes."
Time travel: Obeys laws of physics and avoids the big paradoxes. Must be legit.

When they do it and have pics I will believe it.
 

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The Future Is Now, Now.
What happened to then?
We past it.
When?
Just Now.
When will then be now?
Soon...
 

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Knowing the luck of this world. The first message to come through from the future will be "destroy the machine!"

The biggest concern for Me is it being in the wrong hands and ending up with "Forever Alone" and Trololo based caveman drawings
 

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I believe that if it worked, it would already have happened. Either that or tear the universe.

Science: Continually striving to DOOM US ALL.
Better science than religion.

At least with science, it'll happen while doing (or trying to) something awesome.
 

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I really don't think this will work. If it does however, then that would be sweet :)
 

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The easy conclusion is that Time Travel will never happen because otherwise there would someone who has come back in time and told us they were from the future and they would try and stop disasters from happening, surely someone would have gone to Japan 2 weeks before the earthquake/tsunami and told them it was going to happen which would let people flee, but no this didn't happen because the sad truth is Time Travel is impossible.
 

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I love you science.

But yeah, this is pretty interesting, and I want to see what happens if we do find this particle.