Largest plot hole in a game?

[Fel]

I'm baffled by this massive Rapture argument-

You're talking about a society which has already cracked the gene, in such a way as to manipulate the very elements, and also made that power avaialble in a vending machine... and you want reasons for a city under the ocean? I mean come on, don't talk logistics, thats a realm of fantasy, and it should be accepted as such! Concentrate on what matters in that game, killing stuff!

 

[Woodsey]

How the hell did they build Rapture, and second, how the hell did nobody notice? Seriously, it's an enormous city under the sea - that would take years to build (and apparently it was built prior to or around the 50s, and therefore building something like that is pretty much impossible) and millions upon millions of dollars. And apparently it's in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean - how would you get the building supplies out there? It doesn't affect Bioshock in anyway, it's just something I've always wondered.

Simple. It's steampunk therefore even the physically impossible becomes suddenly AWESOME!

But since we are on Bioshock...

I don't think it's really a plot hole, but how to turrets and gun drones which (I assume due to the nature of the game) are run on steam, have any way to tell friend from foe?

I would imagine that, like the camera, they can detect DNA types. At a guess.

Don't ask me how the camera manages it though xD

Crysis. Where the smeg did the aliens COME from?

Not really a plot hole - the female archaeologist (my mind's blanked on her name) put forward the theory that they landed X number of years ago (didn't they say the fossils predate man by some millions of years?).

In fact, that's not a plot hole at all - I've just explained it.

 

[Axeli]

I'm baffled by this massive Rapture argument-

You're talking about a society which has already cracked the gene, in such a way as to manipulate the very elements, and also made that power avaialble in a vending machine... and you want reasons for a city under the ocean? I mean come on, don't talk logistics, thats a realm of fantasy, and it should be accepted as such! Concentrate on what matters in that game, killing stuff!

Agreed. Sci-fi, fantasy, science fantasy... They don't need to make complete sense. The settings especially are usually fantastical rather then realistic in those genres by default anyway.

 

[GooBeyond]

On the MW2 level No Russian, how did everyone on the last floor before you exit onto the airstrip die before you get there? I'm pretty sure they started to arm themselves on an elevator and didn't exit near the airstrip.

wait what?

OT: in MW2 why general shepherd kill of Roach and Ghost, then makes Soap and Prices wanted criminals

I'm not sure but

Spoiler

shepherd got a white check and decided to abuse it in attaining power instead of just using it fight the Russians. now the only people who could probably stop him were the people from task force 141, so he sets a trap in Afghanistan and sends soap and price there and handles roach and ghost personally. but price and soap didn't die in the trap so they were reported as betrayers and became wanted criminals

i might be wrong but this is all IMO

 

[firedfns13]

Well, seeing as it is never explained, how the Russians got to America undetected in MW2.
And I will now prepare to be told how by someone hopefully.

Gosh! You're such an idiot! How could you not know that!?!
Its sooooo obvious! They used that satelite to reverse engineer a chronosphere and teleport everything so fast that NATO/USCENTCOM/NORAD couldn't possibly know what was happening...

(I actually have no idea how that happened)

I'd like to know how Pixy goes from mercenary to hippy to wanting to end the world to make peace in Ace Combat 0.

 

[The87Italians]

The way Subject Delta comes back in bioshock 2

Spoiler

They just found his body, 10 years later, when any other body would have been nothing but bones by now, got his DNA from it, and shoved it into the Vista Chamber? and correct me if im wrong, but whernt the chambers only in use for the Ryan's?

There was always the chance that there would be some sort of dna left on his suit, and they modded the chamber to work for Delta.

 

[GooBeyond]

come to think of it, i have questions too:
MGS4

Spoiler

considering Raiden is mechanical from the lower jaw down and is functioning perfectly with artificial blood, why couldn't they take Solid Snake to the same doctor (who is alive and is mentioned several times in the Europe levels) and make him mechanical with artificial blood so they wouldn't spend half of the game bitching about him dying, aging and that FOXDIE virus becoming global because of him ??

Uncharted 2

Spoiler

haw many times is Nathan blown against hard surfaces because of an explosion, yet never cracks a bone ? and how can he take down a whole damn squad with bullets in his abdomen after climbing up a damn train? and how the hell did elena survive the grenade blast ? SHO WAS SO DAMN NEAR IT !! it makes no sense.

InFAMOUS

Spoiler

when confronting that mental dude on top of the tower, zeke comes and takes the ray sphere (i forgot the name) and goes away with kessler. but at the final boss battle with kessler he comes back to help you. am i missing something??

Halo 3

Spoiler

how was the front section and rear section of the ship, that MC and the arbiter use to escape the last Halo, cut in half and both of them survived ??

damn that's a lot ...

 

[The Heik]

On the MW2 level No Russian, how did everyone on the last floor before you exit onto the airstrip die before you get there? I'm pretty sure they started to arm themselves on an elevator and didn't exit near the airstrip.

wait what?

OT: in MW2 why general shepherd kill of Roach and Ghost, then makes Soap and Prices wanted criminals

I'm not sure but

Spoiler

shepherd got a white check and decided to abuse it in attaining power instead of just using it fight the Russians. now the only people who could probably stop him were the people from task force 141, so he sets a trap in Afghanistan and sends soap and price there and handles roach and ghost personally. but price and soap didn't die in the trap so they were reported as betrayers and became wanted criminals

i might be wrong but this is all IMO

Actually I think I know why he did it. Remember Price launching the nuke? Well Shepherd doesn't want the USA finding out that his own troops launched that nuke. And technically speaking Price did go against orders when he launched it, so they are war criminals.

 

[Nicarus]

I know not many would know this one...

What ever happened to Rootrick near the end of Brave Fencer Musashi? He was there, then nothin'. This has bugged me for ages!

 

[GooBeyond]

Spoiler

Actually I think I know why he did it. Remember Price launching the nuke? Well Shepherd doesn't want the USA finding out that his own troops launched that nuke. And technically speaking Price did go against orders when he launched it, so they are war criminals

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well first of all i think you should use a spoiler tag
and secondly, if that was the case, Shepherd could have killed him long before

Spoiler

the trap in Afghanistan.

 

[The Heik]

Actually I think I know why he did it. Remember Price launching the nuke? Well Shepherd doesn't want the USA finding out that his own troops launched that nuke. And technically speaking Price did go against orders when he launched it, so they are war criminals.

well first of all i think you should use a spoiler tag
and secondly, if that was the case, Shepherd could have killed him long before

Spoiler

the trap in Afghanistan.

Ok first of all, the game came out months ago (November 10th, 2009), so you don't have to put spoilers on the info. If someone hasn't already bought/played the game, they probably don't care about getting the story spoiled.

Second of all, the Afghanistan mission occurred at the same time as the safehouse mission, which was only hours after the nuke's detonation, so it was really just Shepherd getting ready to axe them. Anyways might as well use them to clear the area before bumping them off.

 

[Brad Shepard]

The way Subject Delta comes back in bioshock 2

Spoiler

They just found his body, 10 years later, when any other body would have been nothing but bones by now, got his DNA from it, and shoved it into the Vista Chamber? and correct me if im wrong, but whernt the chambers only in use for the Ryan's?

There was always the chance that there would be some sort of dna left on his suit, and they modded the chamber to work for Delta.

but in a city with no dry spots in it as far as i know, how could a 10 year old sute still have DNA in it? and for that matter, why did he respawn with his helmet?

 

[fenderstrat]

how the hell was possible that you opened a tomb or a chamber in uncharted 1 (that was closed for hundreds of years), and the bad guys where alredy inside and waiting for you.

 

[MortisLegio]

Not really. You'd think at least one other country in Europe would notice a bloody invasion force crossing over their territory.

Spoiler

The Russians are clearly coming in from the Atlantic anyway, and just because one ACS module got nicked doesn't mean that the US and every other world power lost all things like radar, or in the case of Non-USA countries, their fucking satellite capabilities.

Plus, this is bloody America people. They don't have one defence system, nor do they tend to keep it going and trust that it still works after it has been captured. The USA would have contingency plans for something like that going missing, and they would have never trusted data that had been captured by a hostile country.

Just accept it as a plot hole. Like how a nuke can cause a shockwave in space, or how a nuke can be launched from a submarine into space, or still work in space.

Or how the hell Price ended up in that Gulag and never took the opportunity to escape before.

I biggest problem is the spot the Russians invaded

The East Coast has ALOT of military bases with ALOT of planes, tanks, and guys with guns and come on... Ramstein AFB would of picked up something on their radar it is in Germany after all

 

[xqxm]

Well, here's a weird one. Prince of Persia: Warrior Within

Now i know Jordan Mechner wasn't working on Warrior Within, and storywise it's shite compared to sands of time and even two thrones, but bear with me.

So, the Dahaka wants to kill you because you rewound time a few days by sending the sands back into the hourglass. Thusly, you have saved yourself from what would probably have been your death (kinda makes you wonder why the Dahaka doesn't want to murder every single person who would have turned into a sandmonster). Anyway, regardless if you have found every life powerup in the game and thus can choose to kill the Dahaka, the fact remains that if you take Kaileena forward in time, so that she never died in the past and thus created the Sands of Time in the first place, the Dahaka will let you completely off the hook, instead opting to kill Kaileena.

Why on earth would he do that? You have still cheated death by rewinding time, and even though you through some lime taradox make sure they aren't ever created, that fact will remain.

Seriously though, this is giving me a headache. Feel free to discuss.

 

[Ultra_Caboose]

FF7 "plot hole" thought I've had for a while...

Why exactly does the Chocob Sage need 5000 gil for a green? That's like demanding 1000 bucks for an apple, because it's apparently a REALLY good apple. He lives in a valley surrounded by mountains, and he doesn't need to buy feed for his chocobo if he has greens to sell, and I assume he could eat them himself, since they're glorified vegetables. I just never understood the "logic" behind it.

 

[Harry Slaughter]

You guys are all forgetting a major player in MW2. SHEPARD. He wanted the war (Partly as vengance for the nuke set off in the first game, and partly as a way to get people to join the military really quickly--and to get back at Russia for not saying "Thank you kindly, America!") I'm not saying he could have hidden the entire Russian army and told people to ignore jets coming over the atlantic ocean...but...he could have done enough. Like "That can't be possible. Must be a glitch..ahem"

 

[Stabby McRunfast]

Someone mentioned a pretty fucking big plot hole in Dead Space in the last one of these threads...

Spoiler: Plot details contained within.

When the USM Valor picks up the escape shuttle with a Leaper caste Necromorph inside it, how are the crew reanimated? Only two castes of Necromorph can reanimate corpses: Infector & Divider castes, & even then Dividers can only form more Dividers.
The point is, a Leaper caste cannot create more Necromorphs.

EDIT: It's also alleged that there is Unitologist graffiti aboard the Valor, something which should logically only appear on the Ishimura as it is they who have the Marker.

I thought that after the valor crashed into the Ishimura that other necromorphs invaded it...Or maybe I'm just trying to make up for the plot hole.

 

[SonicKoala]

How the hell did they build Rapture, and second, how the hell did nobody notice? Seriously, it's an enormous city under the sea - that would take years to build (and apparently it was built prior to or around the 50s, and therefore building something like that is pretty much impossible) and millions upon millions of dollars. And apparently it's in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean - how would you get the building supplies out there? It doesn't affect Bioshock in anyway, it's just something I've always wondered.

Well Ryan was a BILLIONARE and used pressurised suits, diving eq etc.
This is all expained in Bioshock 2's large musuem/themepark level which shows how Rapture was made.

That's nice that it was explained in the freaking SEQUEL; for some reason I don't recall an elaborate explanation in the first Bioshock's famous museum/theme park level.... oh wait, that's because there WASN'T ONE.

 

[Fighterblaze]

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This made me think of This Video [http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/225/Bioshocked]

A massive plot hole would be in Final Fantasy 9... where the fugg did that boss come from, i mean really? what?

Necron (the final boss) came from inside the life crystal that Kuja destroyed when he used ultima after you defeat him. Upon destroying it, Necron emerged to wipe out life in the universe.

It wasn't really a plot hole, it just wasn't explained very well, if you pay attention it is explained.... Very briefly.