Yes. Because Console Titles are never pirated. Oh wait..benvorbeck said:This just made my day! on the one hand we have a petition to get Rockstar to port it to PC. on the other hand we have afuckload of pirates ready to hack the shit out of this game.
Attention Rockstar, This is proof that you should just ignore that petition.
Thats kinda the hilarious part of it. Why would people download a "leaked" PC port if Rockstar hasnt even yet announced that one is coming? I mean basic logic tells us that, first its gotta be made, then its announced, then its shipped to the stores. Any possibly "leak" would happen between announcement and when it goes on sale proper, regardless whether its a scene release or not, nobody should be that dumb to download something that isnt even announced to come out yet.Twenty Ninjas said:This is why you should wait for trusted scene releases before you go downloading random stuff.
Refusing to believe that there's people that dumb is futile.008Zulu said:No.
I refuse to believe that anyone would be so dearth of intelligence that they would be so stupid as to fall for this.
After seeing that image I am rather pissed at conceding to an argument because I was too timid to point out that the arguer dismissed my own findings of GTA Vs piracy rate without providing counter proof or any logical reasoning. Nay, I am fucking mad.Ultratwinkie said:snip
A game that hasn't been announced is coming to come out. You're stupid enough to look if you can find it on a torrent site. You're stupid enough to download it. You're stupid enough to install it. You're stupid enough to deserve the malware.Tanis said:If you stupid enough to fall for this...
You deserve what's coming to your PC.
You assume those views are different people, but there are also a lot of replies to those threads. A reply to a post means at least 2 views and if someone is browsing through multiple pages, refreshing the site to see if someone has answered a question or something like that a good deal of those views can be dismissed. Your reasoning is flawed because you count 1 view as 1 person and then make an arbitrary number to determine the rate of how many pirates it based on that. 1 person might make up hundreds of views on each of those threads. Someone with a crappy connection might have refreshed the page a good deal of times.Ultratwinkie said:86+ million views.JoJo said:Those are views, not downloads. It's quite likely many people would have viewed more than one thread, or viewed the same thread several times in the course of working out which was best to download, and lurkers would be added to the tally too. I don't doubt numbers pirated were stupidly huge but there isn't really a reason to assume 18+ million from what you've posted.Ultratwinkie said:The first picture has:
18+ million downloads. Only counting the first few 1,000,000+ numbers. That is more than GTA V sold on day fucking 1. Rockstar lost, on console piracy alone, an additional 1.3 billion dollars. Not counting the used game sales that will inevitably come as well.
It would only take 18% of viewers to match what GTA V sold on day 1.
Argument is still valid. Piracy is huge on consoles, and the idea that consoles are safe is patently false. It would take over 82% of people viewing the torrent to not pirate it.
No way 82% would just drop that. Even 10% download rates equal half a billion dollars.
I was more thinking; That people thought it was an actual game, that it had indeed been converted and finalized without so much as a "leaked" Tweet.Ed130 said:I imagine many would have stopped the install once it started asking for personal information, hacks are made to stop you from being picked up as a pirate so questions like that should have raised some flags or at least stick in some false data.
Now I need one of those Cracked articles that restore your faith in humanity.Grabehn said:Refusing to believe that there's people that dumb is futile.
But there's no way of telling anything about how many actually downloaded it from those numbers because we can't assume those numbers to say anything about the number of people who viewed it. We might as well find the number of pirated copies based on how many Xbox 360s have been sold. It is vaguely related, but equally useless in determining the number of people who downloaded it. You have no statistics showing number of downloads and unless you do mentioning numbers for it is bullshit.Ultratwinkie said:Yes, and I compensated for that with percents.Yopaz said:You assume those views are different people, but there are also a lot of replies to those threads. A reply to a post means at least 2 views and if someone is browsing through multiple pages, refreshing the site to see if someone has answered a question or something like that a good deal of those views can be dismissed. Your reasoning is flawed because you count 1 view as 1 person and then make an arbitrary number to determine the rate of how many pirates it based on that. 1 person might make up hundreds of views on each of those threads. Someone with a crappy connection might have refreshed the page a good deal of times.Ultratwinkie said:86+ million views.JoJo said:Those are views, not downloads. It's quite likely many people would have viewed more than one thread, or viewed the same thread several times in the course of working out which was best to download, and lurkers would be added to the tally too. I don't doubt numbers pirated were stupidly huge but there isn't really a reason to assume 18+ million from what you've posted.Ultratwinkie said:The first picture has:
18+ million downloads. Only counting the first few 1,000,000+ numbers. That is more than GTA V sold on day fucking 1. Rockstar lost, on console piracy alone, an additional 1.3 billion dollars. Not counting the used game sales that will inevitably come as well.
It would only take 18% of viewers to match what GTA V sold on day 1.
Argument is still valid. Piracy is huge on consoles, and the idea that consoles are safe is patently false. It would take over 82% of people viewing the torrent to not pirate it.
No way 82% would just drop that. Even 10% download rates equal half a billion dollars.
However your point is valid. Piracy isn't a PC exclusive and your image does provide enough of an indication of that even though the numbers of pirated copies is probably a lot lower than what they indicate.
If that 86 million was only 10% actually downloading, that still puts 1/3rd of the player base as pirates. We cut the 86 million by 90%.
If it was 20%, half of the players are pirates. We cut the 86 million by 80%.
Anything at or higher than 18% is bad. That's why I wasted the time to explain that and cut it down.