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I played the demo and enjoyed it immensely...which is sad, cause now I'm more tempted to plop down full price for it. But alas, I'm broke and can't right now.
Also I love playing Louis because I feel the need to help him survive...The black guy has too often been the first to die in horror movies and I feel the need to break down that stereotype by playing him.
But I like Bill too cause he sounds like Captain Murphy from Sealab 2021.
Also I love playing Louis because I feel the need to help him survive...The black guy has too often been the first to die in horror movies and I feel the need to break down that stereotype by playing him.
But I like Bill too cause he sounds like Captain Murphy from Sealab 2021.
i've been having trouble w/ the finales. I get my team through the majority of the campaign, usually i'm the only one who hasn't died. (i get the most damage, most kills, tank killer, witch killer, and constantly shoot hunters and smokers off my teammates so it's not like i'm hiding in the corner or anything) then me and the whole team get pwned the fuck out of in the ending. We must have played the hostpital rooftop like 10 times and never actually beat it. we saw the Chopper once, i was the only one still moving around, 2 dead, one i helped up from falling for his life. So i sprint to the chopper and run smack dab into the middle of a bunch of zombies, tank inbound, then i get a hunter to the face, and my team mate has got his pistol out shooting at... well.. the little little zombies around the roof he was on. I was yelling through the mike and typing at him "HELP ME!! HELP ME!!" and then i died.. cuz he didn't.. then he died. cuz he didn't see me type "TANK BEHIND YOU"
and we lost.. sad story eh? DAMN YOU STACKED SMOKERS AND HUNTERS... DAMN YOU!!!
and we lost.. sad story eh? DAMN YOU STACKED SMOKERS AND HUNTERS... DAMN YOU!!!
I<3 this game.
I especially like blowing away hunters in mid-leap.
My friends call me the Hunter hunter.
I especially like blowing away hunters in mid-leap.
My friends call me the Hunter hunter.
I was playing versus with my friend and I had done the most damage to the survivors (killed 2 outright) with a hunter and he said, "bleeder, the head-hunter over here"LewsTherin said:
it was a pun, and I'm a sucker for puns.
You will love it....Jumplion said:Heh, if I ever do get the game (I would if I could) I'm going to jump straight into Expert mode
Well, except all the dying...
Just make sure you do Expert with 3 other human players...The AI players are rather stupid.
They're actually pretty good, quite competent. But put a ladder in their way and all bets are off.Jamanticus said:You will love it....Jumplion said:Heh, if I ever do get the game (I would if I could) I'm going to jump straight into Expert mode
Well, except all the dying...
Just make sure you do Expert with 3 other human players...The AI players are rather stupid.
From what I've seen (the demo) it is perfection. Nothing that didn't fill me with glee. The A.I. is brilliant, and the sounds are wonderful (hearing sobbing, or the sound of a tank running at you...), and none of the characters are annoying! Damnations, I am such a Valve fangirl.
So far I've been through each "movie" campaign at least once, so I've started working on achievements that I haven't already gotten by pure chance already.
For those of you that don't know, there is an achievement called "Akimbo Assassin" that you can get by using only pistols throughout an entire campaign. So, a day or so ago I ran through the "Blood Harvest" campaign trying to go all "Equilibrium" on the Infected's collective asses. I did get the achievement, but Blood Harvest was a very poor choice in campaign to try that out on.
Gun-Kata for the win bitches.
For those of you that don't know, there is an achievement called "Akimbo Assassin" that you can get by using only pistols throughout an entire campaign. So, a day or so ago I ran through the "Blood Harvest" campaign trying to go all "Equilibrium" on the Infected's collective asses. I did get the achievement, but Blood Harvest was a very poor choice in campaign to try that out on.
Gun-Kata for the win bitches.
Sorry, I posted this rant before I noticed this thread:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.77892#955844
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.77892#955844
I gotta say, I read this, and agree with some points. Many people can be assholes, but its just part of the whole concept, and you will play with pleasant people many times. I own a 360 and live too, but own it for the PC. Why you ask? This is due mainly to the fact that my friends all play it on the PC, and I believe the game was made for the PC anyway. So if its not too late, id say try and return the xbox version i assume you purchased and buy a PC one. If you own the PC one already, add me!Michael A. Mohammed said:
Steam ID Turtleboy1017, I'm not a prepubescent retard, and i own a mic, so if your ever in the mood. Also if you want to play some good old xbox, Gears, Halo, whatnot my gamertag is turteboy1017 (forgot the l
) I believe the online gaming world is still young, and you'll always run into retards who think that cussing is the only form of communication, just grit threw it, find some pleasant people to play with, and enjoy the experience when you can I guess! Have fun!
No shame in that, my good Larenxis!Larenxis said:
I love the sounds.....So visceral and satisfying...
An M-16 with a subwoofer=pure perfection.
Another thing that's fantastic about L4D is how perfect a blend of survival horror and tactical fps it is.......I was awed at that, and still am.
Thanks! Unfortunately, my computer is a Macbook, completely lacking in gaming ability. On the one hand, I definitely agree that WASD/mouse is the ideal control for most types of games (excepting side-scrollers, shmups, fighting games, and flight sims).
On the other hand, I sit at a computer all day for my job. I don't even have a computer desk in my apartment -- I lounge on my couch. Which is also the location I play my video games from.
And I also agree, not everyone is an asshole online. Earlier today I had my first truly great team in the game, a group of people who were all totally awesome, who worked together well. It was glorious, and I felt like I was experiencing the game's full potential.
On the other hand, I sit at a computer all day for my job. I don't even have a computer desk in my apartment -- I lounge on my couch. Which is also the location I play my video games from.
And I also agree, not everyone is an asshole online. Earlier today I had my first truly great team in the game, a group of people who were all totally awesome, who worked together well. It was glorious, and I felt like I was experiencing the game's full potential.
Well it IS a multiplayer game, that was supposed to be understood if you knew anything about it, 10x more fun with friends.avykins said:
I'm a bit confused by this, Jamanticus, but I think it may involve a much larger (and probably totally pointless) discussion of what the term "survival horror" means. Beyond the zombie-film atmosphere, I don't really see this game as survival horror at all. To me, a survival horror game can only be a single-player experience -- it needs to be solitary, lonely. Having three buddies' voices in your ear takes that away, at least for me.Jamanticus said:
Don't get me wrong, Left 4 Dead does an incredible job of bringing the "generic zombie movie" atmosphere to life. I just don't think the game's format makes it possible for it to be genuinely scary.
Creepy? Certainly. Nerve-wracking? Yes. But that sort of dreadly, what's-around-the-corner feeling? No, at least not for me.
Because I know what's around the corner:
Zombies.
Also, I call dibs on the word "dreadly," because I totally just made it up.
A survival horror has no other meaning, other then a horror in which the individual is trying to survive. It really isn't exclusive to single-player games. What's a horror? Well, I suppose that's in the eye of the beholder, but it certainly tries to pass itself as a horror. Besides, you can play it single-player, which would get rid of the microphones in your ear and give you that loneliness you spoke of.Michael A. Mohammed said:
But, I completely see where you're coming from.
Here's a pretty interesting and decently-written article on this topic:runtheplacered said:
http://kotaku.com/5056008/does-survival-horror-really-still-exist
I don't agree with everything she says, but I do agree with her basic definition of the genre:
Titles like these all have distinct differences, of course, but they all tend to have a few traits in common. First, they largely de-prioritize combat mechanics, favoring challenging the player through elements like on-location puzzles, mazelike game areas, using the environment itself against enemies, and even fleeing and hiding instead of direct combat. The Fatal Frame series eschews actual hand-to-hand fighting, characterized by its use of a camera to banish the game?s ghosts; Haunting Ground avoids the issue entirely, creating effective, vaguely perverted fear by casting the player as an exposed, vulnerable girl who must hide while training her dog to defend herself.
You have to remember that "survival horror" is a marketing term cooked up by Capcom to promote Resident Evil/Biohazard when the first game was released. "Survival horror" has come to mean something (more or less) to some people (and, obvi, other things to other people
) but, whatever that meaning was, I think L4D has drifted pretty far away from it.Lots more interesting questions here, though: is this even a "horror" game? It's a smart, squad/tactical-based multiplayer FPS with a zombie-movie skin. But there is no narrative, no characters (since they are stereotypes defined by four-sentence descriptions and a handful of lines of dialogue). The game's four scenarios COULD have functioned as bare-bones narratives -- "Some people fight their way to this rooftop, and have to get from here through an infested city to a hospital helipad" -- but when you play that over and over, the narrative becomes the story of how you built a rapport with some strangers online that enabled you to win the game.
In other words, L4D is a ping-pong table and paddles. The game itself -- the activity of playing it -- is a compelling story (if you're one of the players, of course).
But in the absence of a real narrative, all L4D does horror-wise is to mimic the tropes of movies you've seen before to get you to feel the way you did when you first saw those movies.
Combined with the tooth-grinding anxiety of the game itself, this can be pretty effective. But I don't know if it counts as a decent work of "Horror."