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Like Pigeon here says. They are never connected, they start fresh with each one. To this day there has only ever been one FF seqeul and that is the steaming pile of goats shit most FF fans know as Final Fantasy X-2, however most fans deny it even exists, much like the first Highlander seqeul (Immortals are from another planet called Zeist! It all makes sense now!)NotPigeon said:
That sequel was dire. I mean, really, what were they thinking?! The only things that remain the same throughout the series are the enemies (Marlboro's are one example) and some other creatures (Moogles, Chocobo's, etc) and a few names of other things too. Bigg's and Wedge are usually 2 characters in the games, though I forgot the reason why they keep using them..Sniper_Zegai said:
There are some continuing themes, creatures, most of the same summonings in one version or another, and some of the names, but the plots are usually entirely insulated from each other. It's how it manages to be a successful franchise, I think. At the same time, the name implies the kind of quality gamers expect in a J-RPG, but the reinvention of basically everything each time makes it new.
The only exception to the "whole new world" in the games is the use of Ivalice in FF Tactics, Tactics Advanced, and XII (and the DS-based sequel to XII). The name stayed the same from Tactics to Tactics Advanced, and the basic world (other species, clans, judges (though in a different format)) stayed from TA to XII
X-2 really did suck, but I think mainly in comparison to X. FFX was fan-freaking-tastic, and the expectation for X-2 was that they would fill in the plot holes, and keep everything that still rocked from FFX. Instead they created a new, counterintuitive battle system, and made it all about costumes.
I still want another FF game to feature chocobo raising, though, that was pretty awesome
The only exception to the "whole new world" in the games is the use of Ivalice in FF Tactics, Tactics Advanced, and XII (and the DS-based sequel to XII). The name stayed the same from Tactics to Tactics Advanced, and the basic world (other species, clans, judges (though in a different format)) stayed from TA to XII
X-2 really did suck, but I think mainly in comparison to X. FFX was fan-freaking-tastic, and the expectation for X-2 was that they would fill in the plot holes, and keep everything that still rocked from FFX. Instead they created a new, counterintuitive battle system, and made it all about costumes.
I still want another FF game to feature chocobo raising, though, that was pretty awesome
I think most people hate FF X-2 because of the style of gameplay, with mission times and whatnot, and the flawed battle system. But if you can get over these, it's still a Final Fantasy game.
Also, Cid's been in every FF game since two, and has almost always had to do with airships.
2: Cid: He owns an airship.
3: Cid Haze: He owns an airship.
4: Cid Pollendina: Again, he owns an airship. (The first time Cid was a playable character, by
the way)
5: Cid Previa: He's an inventor.
6: Cid del Norte Marguez: Non-playable empire researcher. Is Celes' grandfather.
7: Cid Highwind: Owns an airship AGAIN (The tiny bronco was an airship, but got damaged by ShinRa), and pilots the ship you steal from ShinRa later in the game.
8: Headmaster Cid Kramer: Owns Balamb, which turns into an airship.
9: Cid Fabool: Ruler of Lindblum, is playable for a while on Disc 3 when you need to rescue everyone else.
10: Cid: Owns the airship you fly in later in the game. Is Yuna's uncle and Rikku and Brother's father.
10-2: Cid: Same Cid from above, he sells clues in Zanarkand at the start of the game.
11: Cid: Airship creator in Vana'diel.
12: Doctor Cidolfus Demen Bunansa: For the first time in a Final Fantasy game, he was the villian. You fought him twice in the game, the last of which was with the esper Famfrit. NOTE: Famfrit's weak to fire and can be oiled, making him really easy. There's also Al-Cid Margrace, one of Larsa's friends.
Tactics: Cidolfus Orlandu: A playable character. There is also a sidequest where Ramza's party needs to raise a sunken ship, that's called the Highwind.
Tactics Advance: Cid Randell: Leader of the judges, is also a playable character.
Tactics Advance A2: Grimoire of the Rift: Playable character called Cid, is from a race called the Rebe, the first non-human Cid, unless you count FFIX's Oglop and Frog Cid.
Also, almost every Sarah/Sara in FF has been a princess. In FF1, she's the princess you have to rescue at the start of the game. In FF3, she's also the princess you have to rescue at the start of the game. In FF9, Sarah is Garnet's real name. Probably because Sarah in Hebrew refers to a woman of high rank.
I may be looking too much in to this.
Also, Cid's been in every FF game since two, and has almost always had to do with airships.
2: Cid: He owns an airship.
3: Cid Haze: He owns an airship.
4: Cid Pollendina: Again, he owns an airship. (The first time Cid was a playable character, by
the way)
5: Cid Previa: He's an inventor.
6: Cid del Norte Marguez: Non-playable empire researcher. Is Celes' grandfather.
7: Cid Highwind: Owns an airship AGAIN (The tiny bronco was an airship, but got damaged by ShinRa), and pilots the ship you steal from ShinRa later in the game.
8: Headmaster Cid Kramer: Owns Balamb, which turns into an airship.
9: Cid Fabool: Ruler of Lindblum, is playable for a while on Disc 3 when you need to rescue everyone else.
10: Cid: Owns the airship you fly in later in the game. Is Yuna's uncle and Rikku and Brother's father.
10-2: Cid: Same Cid from above, he sells clues in Zanarkand at the start of the game.
11: Cid: Airship creator in Vana'diel.
12: Doctor Cidolfus Demen Bunansa: For the first time in a Final Fantasy game, he was the villian. You fought him twice in the game, the last of which was with the esper Famfrit. NOTE: Famfrit's weak to fire and can be oiled, making him really easy. There's also Al-Cid Margrace, one of Larsa's friends.
Tactics: Cidolfus Orlandu: A playable character. There is also a sidequest where Ramza's party needs to raise a sunken ship, that's called the Highwind.
Tactics Advance: Cid Randell: Leader of the judges, is also a playable character.
Tactics Advance A2: Grimoire of the Rift: Playable character called Cid, is from a race called the Rebe, the first non-human Cid, unless you count FFIX's Oglop and Frog Cid.
Also, almost every Sarah/Sara in FF has been a princess. In FF1, she's the princess you have to rescue at the start of the game. In FF3, she's also the princess you have to rescue at the start of the game. In FF9, Sarah is Garnet's real name. Probably because Sarah in Hebrew refers to a woman of high rank.
I may be looking too much in to this.
I shiver at the mention of FFX-2's battle system.
The decision to fill the main character slots with annoying female voice actors was horrible.
Rikku - Homicidally annoying
Yuna - Homicidally boring
Pain - The only one without an annoying voice, yet still stupidly annoying.
I stopped playing FFX-2 very early after discovering it had born prematurely after accidental conception, but i gathered that it was about finding spheres all over Spira... would i be silly to say this sounds like a side-quest? Like in every adventure game known to man there's always the go-back-to-everywhere-to-find-insignificant-things quest.
The decision to fill the main character slots with annoying female voice actors was horrible.
Rikku - Homicidally annoying
Yuna - Homicidally boring
Pain - The only one without an annoying voice, yet still stupidly annoying.
I stopped playing FFX-2 very early after discovering it had born prematurely after accidental conception, but i gathered that it was about finding spheres all over Spira... would i be silly to say this sounds like a side-quest? Like in every adventure game known to man there's always the go-back-to-everywhere-to-find-insignificant-things quest.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only Final Fantasy games that can be considered to be connected are Final Fantasy Tactics and Final Fantasy XII
And there's also Revenant Wings, but I only got that the other day, so I don't know if there's a Cid in it.
It's best to think of Final Fantasy as a *brand* rather than as a *series*, really.
Honda makes vehicles. It makes cars, trucks, etc, and diffrent brands of each of these general types of cars. The diffrent types of cars share some vague similarities in quality, thematic content, design, etc, but their diffrent cars.
By the same token, Final Fantasy is a "brand" of games. Mostly, it consists of RPG's that have nothing to do with each other. Occasionally you get a character heavy "tactical/strategy" game. There are various odd peacesof flotsam produced under that brandname, some of which weren't seen outside of Japan for a long time, some of which fans of the rband would perfer best to forget etc.
But yeah, by and large, when you purhcase a FF game, you are buying a:
1) RPG
2) That follows the "Japanese" RPG tradition of a party mechanic with diffrent party members having diffrent powers, be it through a class system, a job system, or something similar as well as a mechanical stat based progression and set peace battles between the party and random monsters interrupted by the occasional boss type monster, usually with a mixed turn based real time system, often with an option to slant the system one way or another, in order to progress through a linear story with occasional free roam type aspects and also branching paths, and sometimes, alternate endings.
3) That is probability of a high standard of quality.
Honda makes vehicles. It makes cars, trucks, etc, and diffrent brands of each of these general types of cars. The diffrent types of cars share some vague similarities in quality, thematic content, design, etc, but their diffrent cars.
By the same token, Final Fantasy is a "brand" of games. Mostly, it consists of RPG's that have nothing to do with each other. Occasionally you get a character heavy "tactical/strategy" game. There are various odd peacesof flotsam produced under that brandname, some of which weren't seen outside of Japan for a long time, some of which fans of the rband would perfer best to forget etc.
But yeah, by and large, when you purhcase a FF game, you are buying a:
1) RPG
2) That follows the "Japanese" RPG tradition of a party mechanic with diffrent party members having diffrent powers, be it through a class system, a job system, or something similar as well as a mechanical stat based progression and set peace battles between the party and random monsters interrupted by the occasional boss type monster, usually with a mixed turn based real time system, often with an option to slant the system one way or another, in order to progress through a linear story with occasional free roam type aspects and also branching paths, and sometimes, alternate endings.
3) That is probability of a high standard of quality.
Yeah, something labeled "Final Fantasy" is like being labled "Made in Germany" (or your own favourite country that produces high-quality goods). With a few exceptions it's a guarantee of quality that will meet or exceed your expectations.
It's really a major coup for the Final Fantasy franchise. It allows them to make entirely new products without being forced into a strict mould. I don't think The Elder Scrolls can really change much without a huge backlash from the community, but if they don't change, they will become very stale and "been there, done that."
It's really a major coup for the Final Fantasy franchise. It allows them to make entirely new products without being forced into a strict mould. I don't think The Elder Scrolls can really change much without a huge backlash from the community, but if they don't change, they will become very stale and "been there, done that."
There are a few connections. It seems like SE might actually be trying to connect them all together somehow. FF12 had cecil from FF4 (they did say it was the FF4 Cecil) and took place in FFTactic's world. FFX2 starts up the Shinra Company from FF7 (the creator did say that FFX2 takes place 1000 years before FF7 and is a direct prequal to FF7 though it's a different planet....which means Yuna and Tidus are technically Cetra/ancients). FF9 has Garland from FF1 (though that could just be a homage since all of 9 was basically 1-6 references for old fans).
it seems FF is trying to become Zelda where in some way they do all follow a timeline....though noone really knows what that timeline is. And if you add in FF8 with time travel, you could also say there is a duel timeline just like OoT, thus explaining the ones that don't seem to fit exactly.
it seems FF is trying to become Zelda where in some way they do all follow a timeline....though noone really knows what that timeline is. And if you add in FF8 with time travel, you could also say there is a duel timeline just like OoT, thus explaining the ones that don't seem to fit exactly.
whats wrong with x-2s battle system? it was a vastly improved version of the ATB, thats the only good thing to be said about it however 
It's a tenuous connection. X and X-2 are directly connected as are FF VII and both Dirge of Cerberus, and the new Crisis Core thing. XII is also connected to its own sequel for the DS. The original tactics featured only humans, chocobos, and the occasional monster (excluding the bad guy creature things). Tactics Advanced featured all of the species which would later be used in XII, but in a vastly different format (not just in terms of gameplay, but also in terms of the foundations of the world. It's Ivalice, but sinceZenMonkey47 said:
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The Ivalice of FF Tactics Advanced was just a construction of a young boy's mind
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it can't really be seen as connected. The judges also exist, but instead of being neutral enforcers of the rules of combat in Tactics Advanced, they become enemies in XII