Let's All Watch The Batman Trailer

[putowtin]

Also, am I the only one who's completely soured on Nolan Batman, thinks Ledger's performance was overrated, and is sick of people touting TDK as the greatest superhero movie ever?

No, you're not, I'm sorry but no matter how hard I try, I can't accept "woodern actor of the year (stealing the title from Keanu Reeves) Christian Bale as Batman!
And for my money the only (live action) Joker is Jack Nicholson.

Flame Shield Engaged!

 

[Ariseishirou]

Did this trailer kill any interest anyone else had in the film completely? Or am I alone on this one? A small child crooning the American national anthem at a football game with overtones of the 1% versus the 99% seemed cheesy as hell and more like something Michael Bay would throw in a film than Christopher Nolan.

Why is that such a bad thing? That's gonna be the set up for the entire movie. It's not an undertone, it's how Bane is going to manage to take the city.

Do you not like it? Are you uncomfortable with something as close to home as that being represented in a movie?

It seemed grotesquely heavy-handed. Occupy reference? Sure. Small child singing the American national anthem? Alright. At a football game? Uh.... .... Complete with images of "protesters" dragging and assaulting presumably wealthy men in tuxedos? .....Yeah that's crossing the line of ludicrously overworked. It played like the trailer for War Horse: my only question was which member of the Cracked joke trailer production team hacked the theatre feed. Or when Michael Bay was going to be listed in the credits. It was cartoonishly ridiculous.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

Honestly I was a little disappointed in this trailer, nothing really screamed "Batman" to me, even when Batman was on screen. Even Catwoman was meh, Anne Hathaway is just too cute to be 'intimidating'. But it could all change in the actual movie so I'll keep my mouth shut.

I think that's been the charm about the recent Batman movies. They aren't really just about Batman. They manage to make every character feel important and interesting.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

Why is that such a bad thing? That's gonna be the set up for the entire movie. It's not an undertone, it's how Bane is going to manage to take the city.

Do you not like it? Are you uncomfortable with something as close to home as that being represented in a movie?

It seemed grotesquely heavy-handed. Occupy reference? Sure. Small child singing the American national anthem? Alright. At a football game? Uh.... .... Complete with images of "protesters" dragging and assaulting presumably wealthy men in tuxedos? .....Yeah that's crossing the line of ludicrously overworked. It played like the trailer for War Horse: my only question was which member of the Cracked joke trailer production team hacked the theatre feed. Or when Michael Bay was going to be listed in the credits. It was cartoonishly ridiculous.[/quote]

Heavy handed? It wasn't discreet enough for you?

Are you serious?

I'm sorry that special effects are a thing in Modern day film, but unless you got the money to blow up a football stadium you should be expecting something like this. I thought that it was pretty damn interesting how it was worked into the plot. Batman saved the city, Bruce Wayne condemned it. Now everyone is pissed at both of his personalities.

 

[almostgold]

The pearl necklace Catwoman tries on is the same one Wayne's mother wore to the opera in the first movie:

Also, Hines Ward. Go Steelers.

 

[Moeez]

Uhh, Batman used a gun-like thing at the end of The Dark Knight too which shot sticky explosive to take out construction bars at that last Joker setpiece with the cops and dogs.

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[Ravenseeker]

i don't know if it's been said before but we be looking at another Arkham breakout ala Begins. That's what it kind of looks like from the trailer that Bob mentioned. I know it's already been done but Arkham is quite the convenient place to get easy muscle close to Gotham.

 

[BehattedWanderer]

The legend ends? Well, duh. By sheer premise of Bane being in the damn thing, Bruce Wayne has to die. Without the mystical magical bits in play that brought him back from Bane last time, he's just straight up either fucked, or Nolan has to do more. We've seen time and again that the Batman can't just retire, so that pretty much leaves just one thing: The Bat dies.

 

[Dr Snakeman]

It's Nolan, he's Steven Spielberg crossed with Kubrick, we don't need any other reassurances. He is, in fact, that good.

And seriously, Bob, movies have to stand on their own terms, even if that means stripping away the comic book trappings. There's a reason Batman does gritty better than anyone.

Precisely. I'm not worried about this movie at all, for the simple fact that I've never seen a bad Christopher Nolan movie. When something as cool as The Prestige is your worst film, you know you're pretty good at your job.

Also, I don't much care for "gritty" superhero films as a rule. However, it's really the only correct way to do Batman. That's one of the big things that differentiates him from the rest.

 

[freakydan]

I seem to remember the internet eating the teaser trailer for The Dark Knight alive, saying that it was dull narration, then a forced sounding laugh. The Heath Ledger version of the Joker was criticized when the first images came out for not looking like the Joker, then for not sounding like the Joker. The movie came out, and everyone loved it, until it won an Oscar, then it became cool to hate it.

I know it's the way the internet works, but can we just skip this? Everyone knows that most people are going to love the movie for about six months, from the time it comes out in the theaters until the time it comes out on video.

Also, you people griping about Catwoman having shades of the 99% thing going on, keep in mind that Catwoman, when not allied with Batman (which I'm assuming she's not in this movie) is a VILLAIN. If anything, this movie is probably going to trash the 99% movement by associating it with one of the villains of the movie. It's the same deal as American History X not endorsing skin heads. They portrayed them as a bunch of dicks.

 

[Warforger]

Wait a minute? The city let its guard down? Did anyone else notice that in The Dark Knight that while they talk alot, no one but Batman does anything to stop Joker aside from arresting him, they just sit there and cry that they're getting attacked then forget about afterwards.

In real life after the first or second terrorist attacks the FBI will take over the city, track down Joker, and implement competent security (DERP IMMA JUST NOT PAY ATTENTION WHILE WERE ALL ON A BOAT BEING ISOLATED FROM THE MAIN LAND AND LET PEOPLE GO INTO THE ENGINE ROOM AND PLANT BOMBS IN THEM WHAT A GENIUS I AM!!!!!!!).

 

[Tarkand]

I'll pitch in the 'Give it a rest with the sarcasm' crowd here Bob.

For one thing, it makes you come off as a bit of an hypocrite since you were outraged (and even made an entire escape to the movie episode on it) that Dark Knight didn't get an Oscar nomination. Than a bunch of zany, campy super hero movie come out and suddenly you're basically begging Nolan to re-introduce the Bat Dance...

There is nothing wrong about having 1 dark and gritty super hero franchise. It happens to fit Batman very well. It happens to be very successful. And trying to 'balance' things out by being overly cynical about it really doesn't make you come off well.

 

[WolfThomas]

You know I agree about the title, I mean the Dark Knight was fine, because that's one of his many names like Superman is the Man of Tommorrow. But The Dark Knight Rises sounds so forced, like they're trying to tie it to the previous film, which is unnecessary, we know Batman was in the Dark Knight, we would get that "Batman Rises" was a sequel.

I would prefer "Gotham Rises" or something, would make the three films stand out separately when you have them in an inevitable trilogy pack.

 

[cricket chirps]

-_- i would love to follow along and read it all as i look through the trailer. Too bad you use apple and quick time will not freaking play the damn video.

 

[rekabdarb]

His backs gonna be broken, calling that now.

 

[HemalJB]

I'll pitch in the 'Give it a rest with the sarcasm' crowd here Bob.

For one thing, it makes you come off as a bit of an hypocrite since you were outraged (and even made an entire escape to the movie episode on it) that Dark Knight didn't get an Oscar nomination. Than a bunch of zany, campy super hero movie come out and suddenly you're basically begging Nolan to re-introduce the Bat Dance...

There is nothing wrong about having 1 dark and gritty super hero franchise. It happens to fit Batman very well. It happens to be very successful. And trying to 'balance' things out by being overly cynical about it really doesn't make you come off well.

Agreed.
Besides, the gritty superhero trend died out around the time Watchmen flopped at the B.O.(not that it was a bad movie, mind you) and the recent success of Thor and Captain America means that TDKR would probably be the last superhero movie to follow this trend.

 

[Ariseishirou]

Why is that such a bad thing? That's gonna be the set up for the entire movie. It's not an undertone, it's how Bane is going to manage to take the city.

Do you not like it? Are you uncomfortable with something as close to home as that being represented in a movie?

It seemed grotesquely heavy-handed. Occupy reference? Sure. Small child singing the American national anthem? Alright. At a football game? Uh.... .... Complete with images of "protesters" dragging and assaulting presumably wealthy men in tuxedos? .....Yeah that's crossing the line of ludicrously overworked. It played like the trailer for War Horse: my only question was which member of the Cracked joke trailer production team hacked the theatre feed. Or when Michael Bay was going to be listed in the credits. It was cartoonishly ridiculous.

Heavy handed? It wasn't discreet enough for you?

Are you serious?

I'm sorry that special effects are a thing in Modern day film, but unless you got the money to blow up a football stadium you should be expecting something like this. I thought that it was pretty damn interesting how it was worked into the plot. Batman saved the city, Bruce Wayne condemned it. Now everyone is pissed at both of his personalities.[/quote]

Er.... where, in that entire paragraph, did I mention special effects? So why is your response all about special effects? I don't care if he blows up a football stadium with CGI, I just want a good story. Michael Bay uses great special effects himself - it's the stories that are garbage. That's what I'm worried about here.

 

[TownTattle]

Bob you are the critic the internet deserves, but not the one it needs right now and so we'll flame him...because he can take it...because he's not a hero...he's a silent guardian, a watchful protector...the Dark Knight.

 

[gorfias]

Oh, Batman is ashamed of being a comic-book adaptation because he doesn't call his car by the ridiculous name 'batmobile'?

Say, how many times does Magneto call himself 'Magneto' or Xavier call himself 'Professor X' in X Men: First Class?

And how many shots of Thor and Captain America are without helmets? Thor goes into battle multiple times with no helmet! Hey, when he's being Batman, Nolan's Batman is fully geared up.

Some other observations: doesn't want to see anything gunlike in Batman's hands!?!? Half his tools look like guns (see kidnapping the calculator scene in TDK, which was awesome!) Guess the guy hasn't played through Arkham City.

I think it was Bob that tried to remind James Bond, he isn't Batman. We don't want everyone acting like Batman. But I love Batman acting like Batman.

I hope they don't kill off Batman. I think that'd be cheap and effect my view of the entire series. It'd be like when Shatner died in Star Trek Generations. Just unnecessary.

I do hope they reboot after this though. A movie can be fantasy AND realistic by not being silly (love humor, hate silliness) and being structured, logical and operating as it should for the given situation. I think Avatar was pretty "realistic" in that it followed the rules of its universe.

But I'd love a Batman series of films that capture what is great in the Arkham City game. Great iteration of the character.

His backs gonna be broken, calling that now.

Nope, first trailer has Gordon looking pretty beat up and hospitalized. Calling it: to throw back to the comic book without screwing up the movie, it'll be his back that gets broken.

It looked to me like the stadium was being blown up with regular explosives, then collapsing into a series of tunnels and chasms (maybe that Native American step thing), like the kind that run under Wayne Manor. Gotham is supposed to be riddled with those kind of catacombs isn't it?

Agreed. And it is interesting: professional football players tend to be in the 1%.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

As far as I know the Nolan films were heavily influenced by the characterisation and atmosphere of Year One and the Long Halloween.

In the latter Selina Kyle appears concerned about the fate of Gotham with Bats constantly asking her why she is becoming involved. I'm guessing that's where they have got her political agenda from.
It's not like Catwoman hasn't been a representative of political stances before, ie Conservation of wildlife in the 90's

Gordon's weary veteran turned cop character is directly lifted from those comics and damn does it suit Gary Oldman.

I'm guessing Bane will become huge as some point through CGI otherwise he's just going to come across as a superstrong dude which frankly is a bit boring.