Lets Give it Cancer!

[oppp7]

No, look up algal blooms to see why rapidly growing algae is a bad idea.

The best solution is to find out what's causing the shortage and stop it.

But, it happens in nature all the time. All I'm suggesting is that we add to what already occurs in nature, and how would that be any different from what would happen if we stopped what was causing the shortage?

I'll admit I don't know much about how cancer works on single-celled organisms, but I'm guessing if what you are suggesting happened, the result would be algal blooms, which apparently destroy more algae than they create. The increased algae might not spread out fast enoguh, if at all, and would just overpopulate whichever areas we put them in.

 

[Firoth]

I'll admit I don't know much about how cancer works on single-celled organisms, but I'm guessing if what you are suggesting happened, the result would be algal blooms, which apparently destroy more algae than they create. The increased algae might not spread out fast enoguh, if at all, and would just overpopulate whichever areas we put them in.

Well, obviously there would have to be some testing involved to try to get a handle on growth rates and where we were putting it, but, yeah I suppose cancer is kinda random so there would be a lot of risk involved (assuming it even works or is a plausible idea).

 

[emeraldrafael]

So no, Lets NOT give algea cancer and LETS give you the dance hat of the decade for making such a statement full of retardity.

Thank you for taking this good-hearted discussion and bringing insults into it. I was wondering how long it would take.

But its not. Its like saying you want more cats, or cats to grow cats out of thier backs, so you inject them with cancer! I mean, its CANCER! Just the mention of the world brings a shudder to the world ebcuase of all the deaths it causes. When has cancer ever been good? The fact the person wants to inject it into what gives us AIR, what gives us the necessity to LIVE, there's no discussion of it. Anyone who takes biology or has had cancer/knows someone with it could tell you that idea just says BAD with big capital bold letters!

 

[DemonicVixen]

Well put it this way... If im not mistaken

A woman with cancer can have sex, and fall pregnant. The foetus doesnt get cancer from the cancerous blood running through the mother, all that happens is a risk to it from Chemo or Radiotherapy or whatever.
Cancer isnt like aids or STD's so it doesnt "spread" in a normal way such as blood touching (so i've heard, and havnt seen any warnings about it). How on earth they've created a way of spawning more algae from it i have no idea, but it certainly doesnt mean that the foodchain shall be effected.

 

[Naleh]

Single-celled organisms can't really get "cancer"... You could cause the same mutation with them, but that's just genetically engineering them to replicate like mad, without concern for resources. Which is fair enough - it's what you were going for. But I can see three immediate problems with it:

(1) As others have mentioned, if they're replicating without concern for the resources, then there obviously won't be enough resources for them all and they'll all starve after a while.

(2) As others have mentioned, a huge burst of algae messes with the ecosystem something fierce.

(3) All the created algae now has the same mutation. All of them will continue to try to replicate. How do you stop it when you have enough?

edit: Cancer doesn't spread like a disease, because it isn't a conventional disease (though a few types of cancer can be caused by conventional diseases). It's not a microbial infection - it's a mutation of your own cells in one part of your body. So, human babies don't catch cancer from their parents, but a cell created by a cancer will have a copy of the mutation, which is how tumours grow. Likewise, all the algae created will have the same mutation, but you don't have to worry about things eating the algae "catching" cancer.

 

[Chrinik]

"IF" it would work...it would get out of hand, our oceans would turn green, water would become unusable if not filtered and what not.
Also we´´d have to find a special kind of cancer that multiplies algae cells and not cancerous (IE Mutated) cells...the resulting algae could have all sorts of bad side effects...or simply die...

 

[Naleh]

So no, Lets NOT give algea cancer and LETS give you the dance hat of the decade for making such a statement full of retardity.

Thank you for taking this good-hearted discussion and bringing insults into it. I was wondering how long it would take.

But its not. Its like saying you want more cats, or cats to grow cats out of thier backs, so you inject them with cancer! I mean, its CANCER! Just the mention of the world brings a shudder to the world ebcuase of all the deaths it causes. When has cancer ever been good? The fact the person wants to inject it into what gives us AIR, what gives us the necessity to LIVE, there's no discussion of it. Anyone who takes biology or has had cancer/knows someone with it could tell you that idea just says BAD with big capital bold letters!

I've lost at least four family members to cancer. Humans take bad things and give them a good use all the time.

Don't throw away an idea and insult people just because the idea involves the word "cancer" (edit: or, for that matter, any other thing you just don't like). Judge it on its own merits. And if it does turn out to be a bad idea, still don't insult people, because that doesn't do any good.

 

[emeraldrafael]

So no, Lets NOT give algea cancer and LETS give you the dance hat of the decade for making such a statement full of retardity.

Thank you for taking this good-hearted discussion and bringing insults into it. I was wondering how long it would take.

But its not. Its like saying you want more cats, or cats to grow cats out of thier backs, so you inject them with cancer! I mean, its CANCER! Just the mention of the world brings a shudder to the world ebcuase of all the deaths it causes. When has cancer ever been good? The fact the person wants to inject it into what gives us AIR, what gives us the necessity to LIVE, there's no discussion of it. Anyone who takes biology or has had cancer/knows someone with it could tell you that idea just says BAD with big capital bold letters!

I've lost at least four family members to cancer. Humans take bad things and give them a good use all the time.

Don't throw away an idea and insult people just because the idea involves the word "cancer". Judge it on its own merits. And if it does turn out to be a bad idea, still don't insult people, because that doesn't do any good.

I'll take the idea on merit, but even on merit its bad. Why do you feel the need to add something that hurts to make things better? If he had said stem cells, yes, more logical If i said this to my college biology teacher, he would fail my ass out of college. You still need to think things through before you post them.

 

[Shanecooper]

Did anyone else get an image of Dr. Evil when they read "give algae cancer"?

 

[lacktheknack]

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Except for two things.

1. Cancer kills, due to the buildup of excess cells in the host. Therefore, the algae won't reproduce like mad.

2. If it did, cancer still kills, so you'd have oceans and and oceans of smelly, carbon emitting rotting dead algae.

Eeeew.

EDIT: My statement only applies to multi-cellular algae.

 

[Naleh]

So no, Lets NOT give algea cancer and LETS give you the dance hat of the decade for making such a statement full of retardity.

Thank you for taking this good-hearted discussion and bringing insults into it. I was wondering how long it would take.

But its not. Its like saying you want more cats, or cats to grow cats out of thier backs, so you inject them with cancer! I mean, its CANCER! Just the mention of the world brings a shudder to the world ebcuase of all the deaths it causes. When has cancer ever been good? The fact the person wants to inject it into what gives us AIR, what gives us the necessity to LIVE, there's no discussion of it. Anyone who takes biology or has had cancer/knows someone with it could tell you that idea just says BAD with big capital bold letters!

I've lost at least four family members to cancer. Humans take bad things and give them a good use all the time.

Don't throw away an idea and insult people just because the idea involves the word "cancer". Judge it on its own merits. And if it does turn out to be a bad idea, still don't insult people, because that doesn't do any good.

I'll take the idea on merit, but even on merit its bad. Why do you feel the need to add something that hurts to make things better? If he had said stem cells, yes, more logical If i said this to my college biology teacher, he would fail my ass out of college. You still need to think things through before you post them.

The original poster did consider the idea, but didn't have enough knowledge to come to a conclusion. Which is why this thread exists: to discuss it.

Yes, this idea does happen to be bad, but not because it "adds something that hurts". Again, humans can take bad things and give them a good use. Radiation is bad for you, but we have dozens of medical uses for it.

Stem cells is a non-starter of an idea in this case. As far as I know, algae only have one sort of cell; they don't have separate stem cells. And stem cells are useful for replacing damaged cells, not expanding a population.

 

[Jfswift]

Even if you could modify a life form somehow and get it to work that would probably offset the delicate balance of nature.

 

[emeraldrafael]

So no, Lets NOT give algea cancer and LETS give you the dance hat of the decade for making such a statement full of retardity.

Thank you for taking this good-hearted discussion and bringing insults into it. I was wondering how long it would take.

But its not. Its like saying you want more cats, or cats to grow cats out of thier backs, so you inject them with cancer! I mean, its CANCER! Just the mention of the world brings a shudder to the world ebcuase of all the deaths it causes. When has cancer ever been good? The fact the person wants to inject it into what gives us AIR, what gives us the necessity to LIVE, there's no discussion of it. Anyone who takes biology or has had cancer/knows someone with it could tell you that idea just says BAD with big capital bold letters!

I've lost at least four family members to cancer. Humans take bad things and give them a good use all the time.

Don't throw away an idea and insult people just because the idea involves the word "cancer". Judge it on its own merits. And if it does turn out to be a bad idea, still don't insult people, because that doesn't do any good.

I'll take the idea on merit, but even on merit its bad. Why do you feel the need to add something that hurts to make things better? If he had said stem cells, yes, more logical If i said this to my college biology teacher, he would fail my ass out of college. You still need to think things through before you post them.

The original poster did consider the idea, but didn't have enough knowledge to come to a conclusion. Which is why this thread exists: to discuss it.

Yes, this idea does happen to be bad, but not because it "adds something that hurts". Again, humans can take bad things and give them a good use. Radiation is bad for you, but we have dozens of medical uses for it.

Stem cells is a non-starter of an idea in this case. As far as I know, algae only have one sort of cell; they don't have separate stem cells. And stem cells are useful for replacing damaged cells, not expanding a population.

Algea is a large community, or, atleast can be. and I know that, but when has adding cnacer ever been good? Just answer me that, and I will give the OP merit and apologize. Just tell me one time that it was good to add cancer to a living being and that things turned out for the better. Tell me that please, i beg you, correct me.

 

[lacktheknack]

I'm not sure if animals feeding on algea and the animals that feed on those naimals would get cancer.

It won't. Stomach acid kills cancer.

For all we know, you would change it so drastically, that algea would instead put out Carbon Dioxide and take in Oxygen, killing everyone.

THAT'S NOT HOW CANCER WORKS! There's absolutely NO way of making a logical connection here! Augh!

So no, Lets NOT give algea cancer and LETS give you the dance hat of the decade for making such a statement full of retardity.

Goes both ways here.

 

[Eumersian]

Ok, before we begin, I'd like for it to be known that this comes from a near complete lack of understanding as to how cancer works, and a limited understanding of algae. Ready? Too bad, lets go!

You don't have anything to do with that "Yahtzee's Dead" troll do you? Three threads about cancer, all in the same day. Hmm?

 

[Naleh]

So no, Lets NOT give algea cancer and LETS give you the dance hat of the decade for making such a statement full of retardity.

Thank you for taking this good-hearted discussion and bringing insults into it. I was wondering how long it would take.

But its not. Its like saying you want more cats, or cats to grow cats out of thier backs, so you inject them with cancer! I mean, its CANCER! Just the mention of the world brings a shudder to the world ebcuase of all the deaths it causes. When has cancer ever been good? The fact the person wants to inject it into what gives us AIR, what gives us the necessity to LIVE, there's no discussion of it. Anyone who takes biology or has had cancer/knows someone with it could tell you that idea just says BAD with big capital bold letters!

I've lost at least four family members to cancer. Humans take bad things and give them a good use all the time.

Don't throw away an idea and insult people just because the idea involves the word "cancer". Judge it on its own merits. And if it does turn out to be a bad idea, still don't insult people, because that doesn't do any good.

I'll take the idea on merit, but even on merit its bad. Why do you feel the need to add something that hurts to make things better? If he had said stem cells, yes, more logical If i said this to my college biology teacher, he would fail my ass out of college. You still need to think things through before you post them.

The original poster did consider the idea, but didn't have enough knowledge to come to a conclusion. Which is why this thread exists: to discuss it.

Yes, this idea does happen to be bad, but not because it "adds something that hurts". Again, humans can take bad things and give them a good use. Radiation is bad for you, but we have dozens of medical uses for it.

Stem cells is a non-starter of an idea in this case. As far as I know, algae only have one sort of cell; they don't have separate stem cells. And stem cells are useful for replacing damaged cells, not expanding a population.

Algea is a large community, or, atleast can be. and I know that, but when has adding cnacer ever been good? Just answer me that, and I will give the OP merit and apologize. Just tell me one time that it was good to add cancer to a living being and that things turned out for the better. Tell me that please, i beg you, correct me.

You're not paying attention. Adding cancer has never been good but that's not a reason to dismiss the idea. It might be good in future, as in the radiation example.

 

[lacktheknack]

Just tell me one time that it was good to add cancer to a living being and that things turned out for the better. Tell me that please, i beg you, correct me.

Researching a cure for cancer?

 

[emeraldrafael]

Just tell me one time that it was good to add cancer to a living being and that things turned out for the better. Tell me that please, i beg you, correct me.

Researching a cure for cancer?

Oka, here we go. I thought you would say that. Tell me, when you add it to a human, or anyhting else, lets say a monkey, their usually the last step before human testing. You're intentionally harming a living being, on the hcnace it oculd help. If you dont, you could condemn it to death. so no, i will not take that as the asnwer, becuase if i said i wanted to give someone cancer and test cures on them, I think they would say no.

 

[emeraldrafael]

To Naleh

Fierst of, yeah, I dont knwo hwo to shorten quotes to a certain phrase from the post.

Secondly, when? Lets say you do have somethign that cnacers kills. I've seen the study done before where people thought that was a good idea. BUt you are still giving them CANCER! Its goes back to what i just said. you are intentionally harmning someone. NAd I;'v seen when chemo goes wrong. and it SUCKS when it does, ebcuase thats usually a last resort kinda deal, becuase it acn go bad, or do more harm then good. But I'm not goign to debate chemo's usefulness.

 

[lacktheknack]

Just tell me one time that it was good to add cancer to a living being and that things turned out for the better. Tell me that please, i beg you, correct me.

Researching a cure for cancer?

Oka, here we go. I thought you would say that. Tell me, when you add it to a human, or anyhting else, lets say a monkey, their usually the last step before human testing. You're intentionally harming a living being, on the hcnace it oculd help. If you dont, you could condemn it to death. so no, i will not take that as the asnwer, becuase if i said i wanted to give someone cancer and test cures on them, I think they would say no.

Augh... the grammarEdited... spelling... it hurts...

Anyways, your post was delightfully vague, so my answer is a perfectly valid one in context of your question.