xaszatm said:
Meh, the lore isn't horrible, though I tend to read the smaller stuff and avoid the "big" events in the lore. Still say Ciaphas Cain is the best part about the lore, though. Still, I have some issues on what you think the lore is.
Grey Knights have always been the best of the best. I'm still upset they tired to codex the army, but the new codex did enlarge the how many soldiers are under each Grand Master. Books outside the codex also did a lot to redeem Grand Master Mary Sue...I mean Draigo in my eyes as well. Then again, him punching Azreal in the face for thinking that no one knew about the Fallen is always a plus in my book.
The Matt Ward codex did mention that the old Necrons still existed, though. Also, I think you're mistaking the Ally chart for actual friendships. It's a familiarity in tactics over actual standing. The Eldar and Dark Eldar would be more familiar with each others tactics than the Tau despite both having (or had in the Dark Eldars case) better relationships with the Tau than each other. Like, no where in the Dark Eldar Codex nor the Eldar Codex do they ever treat each other like "Battle Brothers" They have innate familiarity over each other's tactics so can work together if forced to but they aren't friends. Same with every Imperial Army, unless you think Space Wolves and Inquisitors would be friends. And how did Sisters of Battle ruin Imperial Friendships? I do think the new Ally chart is much better lore wise, though if I see what more unit of Bloodletters on a Chaos Storm Eagle I'm going to shove said Storm Eagle down that guy's throat.
Tyranid Norm Queens were arround since Rogue Trader. It's just that, since Norn Queens only exist on the Bioships (this is why feeder tubes and bio-pools exist), they only ever really showed up in Battlefleet Gothic.
Grey Knights being the best of the best is fine, in theory, but when you apply lore-based thinking to a game, you get a broken army and that's no fun for people to play against. It's more a question of balance and fun than whether the fluff says it's OK.
When I say "friendship" I don't mean actual friendship. I was referring to the ally chart. My primary grievance with the latest Ally Matrix is how they lumped all the Imperials together. Imperial Guard and, to a lesser extent, Space Marines have a long and colorful history of siding with the least awful xeno if it means putting the boot in on Chaos or a more horrible xeno. Lumping the Sisters and Inquisition with the IG and Marines effectively killed all that. Where my Marines used to be able to ally with Tau, Eldar, and Necrons, I can only ally with Eldar now, at least without penalties. But that's a minor grievance.
As for your Dark Eldar, I'd forgotten about the cover save bonuses. I admit, I've never actually seen Dark Eldar in person, mostly cuz all my friends are like "Eww, they're soooo weird." All I know is they are cooler than the goddamn Marines and they have so many open-topped vehicles. *Sigh* I regret buying the Dark Vengeance set every time I see my Farseer and her two lonely Dire Avenger squads next to my boring, boring Marines.
Vivi22 said:
Yeah, my main army when I played were Tyranids. Then 6th came and while flying Monstrous Creatures actually being pretty good in that was cool, assault became useless and classic models like Genestealers went from a genuine threat to utterly useless aside from the Ymgarl ones. And then they released a new Codex after I quit that got rid of pretty much every character unit/model including those so all Genestealers were useless. And now you're saying flying Monstrous Creatures can't do shit? Definitely glad I sold my stuff then. Even if I do miss the days before the Tau update when I could charge a single Dark Eldar Wych or a Genestealer into a unit of Fire Warriors and be pretty much guaranteed to send them running off the table. It was always quite amusing.
Oh, Tau still die in droves to assault units. Actually, they die in droves to anything that gets into melee with them. The problem is, as the meme goes, you will never get there. Tau get what I refer to as the "Fuck you, I'm Tau" rule. Any unit with that rule can fire overwatch against any charging enemy that's in weapon range. So that line of three Fire Warrior squads? All three get to shoot if you charge just one unit. Plus, they have a commander (Farsight, I think, but don't quote me on that) that lets them Go To Ground then get up and fire at full ballistic skill the next turn.
Also, Flying Monstrous Creatures actually got buffed. Not much, but they are a bit better. Vector Strikes only hit once now, but they resolve at AP2. Flying-Jump Monstrous Creatures, like Flying Hive Tyrants or Daemon Princes, however, are basically useless. They are harder to ground, but do significantly less damage in close combat, which, unless you're playing against IG or Tau, pretty much screws you. And if you're playing against IG, you're still screwed because one tank unit can consist of up to four tanks. Bam! Four Hydra AAA tanks, skyfire, twin-linked, bye-bye flyers. Regular Monstrous creatures are pretty terrible too.
