Let's Rank The Resident Evil Games

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Johnny Novgorod said:
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Could you rank the alone of the dark games? I haven't played all of them.
That's easy, the reverse order in which they came out. They got progressively worse and worse.
I haven't played 7 but do you honestly think 6 is better than the rest?
No I don't. I guess I worded that oddly. 1 is the best. Two is still pretty good, but doesn't have the same atmosphere. From 3 on they start bad and just get worse and worse.
 

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Of those I've played:

Resident Evil 3: Nemesis
Resident Evil 1 Remake
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil: Code Veronica
Resident Evil 4
Resident Evil 5 (worst of these by some margin, and the only one I'd say is not a good game).
 

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Silvanus said:
Of those I've played:

Resident Evil 3: Nemesis
Resident Evil 1 Remake
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil: Code Veronica
Resident Evil 4
Resident Evil 5 (worst of these by some margin, and the only one I'd say is not a good game).
You should try the re2 remake and 7. I think you'll enjoy them.
 

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Kyrian007 said:
dscross said:
Could you rank the alone of the dark games? I haven't played all of them.
That's easy, the reverse order in which they came out. They got progressively worse and worse.
are the PS1 games any good? The New Nightmare and One Eyed Jack's revenge?
 

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You should try the re2 remake and 7. I think you'll enjoy them.
I'll definitely love the RE2 remake; I'm watching my flatmate play through it at the moment and it looks fantastic.

RE7 looked like a huge step in the right direction after 5 and 6, but didn't really grab me. Combat particularly looked clunky, and those tar-monsters are pretty uninspired.
 

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dscross said:
Kyrian007 said:
dscross said:
Could you rank the alone of the dark games? I haven't played all of them.
That's easy, the reverse order in which they came out. They got progressively worse and worse.
are the PS1 games any good? The New Nightmare and One Eyed Jack's revenge?
Not really. The only two that have any real value is the original 2 on the PC. 1, just because it was a ground breaking classic. And 2 because it was more of that, even if it decends into sillier territory of seeing Carnby skipping around and slapping clowns to death with a big spatula.
 

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Silvanus said:
dscross said:
You should try the re2 remake and 7. I think you'll enjoy them.
I'll definitely love the RE2 remake; I'm watching my flatmate play through it at the moment and it looks fantastic.

RE7 looked like a huge step in the right direction after 5 and 6, but didn't really grab me. Combat particularly looked clunky, and those tar-monsters are pretty uninspired.
I'll still advise you to try 7 because it sounds like you have similar taste to me in this series. I was unsure about it at first but ended up loving it. It's a worthy entry, imo. The clunky combat is intentional for the fear factor and it becomes apparent that that's the case when you play.
 

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Silvanus said:
dscross said:
You should try the re2 remake and 7. I think you'll enjoy them.
I'll definitely love the RE2 remake; I'm watching my flatmate play through it at the moment and it looks fantastic.

RE7 looked like a huge step in the right direction after 5 and 6, but didn't really grab me. Combat particularly looked clunky, and those tar-monsters are pretty uninspired.
Focus is really on the Baker family so you don't really notice the lack of enemy variety until the last third or so when the game becomes more action oriented. It's easily the game's weakest part but the first 2/3 of the game is simply so good that it more than makes up for it. Jack Baker in particular has smart AI that chases you around and he also has a highly detailed damage model. The RE engine is truly a sight to behold. Controls are also really smooth though. They are expertly implemented to the type of game and way above say, a game like Metro Exodus which is definitely clunky. You really notice Capcom's expertise and budget here.
 

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I haven?t played enough of them to really rank much. Really would need to finish RE0, 5, 6, 7, and RE2 REmake as well as possibly RE: CV first.

But anyways, from most enjoyed to least -

RE2
RE4
REmake
RE
RE3

If I had time to play through rest, I?d do it in this order:

RE0
RE: CV
RE5
RE6 (if I could tolerate its blatant design change for the worse)
RE7
RE2 REmake
 

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So, minor point, I've beaten RE2 Remake, at least in as much that I've done Leon A, Claire B, 4th Survivour, and three of the four Ghost Survivour modes (I can't be arsed with the sheriff one). So, true to my original prediction, the game's getting the #3 spot for me.

The game's far from flawless, but if I had to explain as simply as possible why it's so high it's that the moment to moment gameplay (the zombies mainly) is that damn good.

So...RE3 remake when?
 

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Hawki said:
So, minor point, I've beaten RE2 Remake, at least in as much that I've done Leon A, Claire B, 4th Survivour, and three of the four Ghost Survivour modes (I can't be arsed with the sheriff one). So, true to my original prediction, the game's getting the #3 spot for me.

The game's far from flawless, but if I had to explain as simply as possible why it's so high it's that the moment to moment gameplay (the zombies mainly) is that damn good.

So...RE3 remake when?
You have to try and get an S+ on hardcore now - lol.
 

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hanselthecaretaker said:
If I had time to play through rest, I?d do it in this order:

RE0
RE: CV
RE5
RE6 (if I could tolerate its blatant design change for the worse)
RE7
RE2 REmake
That's a...strange wishlist order to put re2 remake and re7 after re6.
 

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Admittedly, I haven?t played a ton of them, but for me the list goes something like:

1.) resident evil 3- this one ends up here purely because of nostalgia goggles. I was a kid, and it was the first horror game I ever played. Before long ?scary? games stopped working on me in their intended way, but that just makes the genuine fear and stress my child self felt while running from nemesis all the more inimitable.

2.) Resident evil 4- it started some bad habits for the franchise, and each of the three segments (village, castle, and island) each became an order of magnitude less interesting than the one before it, but it was still an exciting ride that deserves its reputation.

3.) code Veronica X- an underrated edition. I had a lot of fun with it, Steve aside.

4.) REmake 2- A masterful adaption that was a blast to play through.

5.) Resident Evil 2- if child me had encountered this game before nemesis, it would likely have taken its place atop this list. As is, I still remember it fondly.

These last two are a bit of an asterisk. While I?d say I e enjoyed every single RE game I?ve ever played, these last two I only enjoy when I have a second player to play couch co-op with. In that specific circumstance, they?re amazing, but without it, they?re terrible.

6.) Resident Evil 6- I get that the community quite universally regards this one as the worst... but it will never be worse than 5 for me. At least it tried to feature settings and environments that felt like proper horror staples, and the plot was intensely stupid... but at least it was stupid in a fun way.

7.) Resident Evil 5- bright, sunny Africa is a terrible, utterly terrible setting for a horror game. That alone would have been enough to make it hard to enjoy, but learning all the wrong lessons from RE-4, and featuring the only story that was stupid in a dull way, made this my least favorite of the lot.
 

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dscross said:
hanselthecaretaker said:
If I had time to play through rest, I?d do it in this order:

RE0
RE: CV
RE5
RE6 (if I could tolerate its blatant design change for the worse)
RE7
RE2 REmake
That's a...strange wishlist order to put re2 remake and re7 after re6.

It?d also be strange to save the worst for last though.
 

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hanselthecaretaker said:
dscross said:
hanselthecaretaker said:
If I had time to play through rest, I?d do it in this order:

RE0
RE: CV
RE5
RE6 (if I could tolerate its blatant design change for the worse)
RE7
RE2 REmake
That's a...strange wishlist order to put re2 remake and re7 after re6.

It?d also be strange to save the worst for last though.
I'd just play RE7 and RE2 Remake and forget the rest. If you have no nostalgic memories of old games there is often little enjoyment to be had if the newest are so much better. RE6 is just a bloated, dime a dozen third person shooter. RE5 is RE4 if it was made by people with half the talent and if it had boring co-op. Both games are dated in a way that they both tried to desperately cash in on what was popular at the time.
 

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stroopwafel said:
hanselthecaretaker said:
dscross said:
hanselthecaretaker said:
If I had time to play through rest, I?d do it in this order:

RE0
RE: CV
RE5
RE6 (if I could tolerate its blatant design change for the worse)
RE7
RE2 REmake
That's a...strange wishlist order to put re2 remake and re7 after re6.

It?d also be strange to save the worst for last though.
I'd just play RE7 and RE2 Remake and forget the rest. If you have no nostalgic memories of old games there is often little enjoyment to be had if the newest are so much better. RE6 is just a bloated, dime a dozen third person shooter. RE5 is RE4 if it was made by people with half the talent and if it had boring co-op. Both games are dated in a way that they both tried to desperately cash in on what was popular at the time.
Completely disagree about leaving out 0 and CV - they are really good if you like that style, and it sounds from the ones he played like they are of that style which he clearly enjoyed.
 

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I don't really care about Resident Evil enough to rank them.

I don't really think RE2 Remake is all that good.

The story in the original was far better. There was more interaction between our two leads and if you play Claire A and Leon B they both work together to save Sherry in a way that makes for a satisfying narrative.

I really hate what they did with Annette, trying to give her some redemption arc. It's so dumb. She worked for years trying to make a horrible unstoppable monster but... didn't intend to make any monsters? She tortured orphans to death (something the remake itself added) but we're supposed to pretend that this character is somehow redeemable? She doesn't make any sense here, it was far better in the original where she was evil and died a hilarious death getting crushed by some rocks or whatever happened to her.

They also made Aida far more condescending and irritating, but at least she treats Leon's bullet wound BEFORE running off after Annette so that's something. Also how the heck did she survive that fall down the bottomless pit? I think in the original her implausible survival is at least obscured by the camera angles and stuff like that.
 

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I don't really care about Resident Evil enough to rank them.

I don't really think RE2 Remake is all that good.

The story in the original was far better. There was more interaction between our two leads and if you play Claire A and Leon B they both work together to save Sherry in a way that makes for a satisfying narrative.

I really hate what they did with Annette, trying to give her some redemption arc. It's so dumb. She worked for years trying to make a horrible unstoppable monster but... didn't intend to make any monsters? She tortured orphans to death (something the remake itself added) but we're supposed to pretend that this character is somehow redeemable? She doesn't make any sense here, it was far better in the original where she was evil and died a hilarious death getting crushed by some rocks or whatever happened to her.

They also made Aida far more condescending and irritating, but at least she treats Leon's bullet wound BEFORE running off after Annette so that's something. Also how the heck did she survive that fall down the bottomless pit? I think in the original her implausible survival is at least obscured by the camera angles and stuff like that.
Your comments on why do you don't believe it was as good as the OG are story related and no gameplay comments. I'd just like to add that, while I do agree with you that the story and scenarios were better in the OG RE2, do people generally play resident evil games for an immersive narrative experience rather than for survival, horror, and working out which way to go with puzzles (gameplay)? I'd suggest not.

You can think it's not as good as the original but to say it isn't that good without mentioning why you dislike the gameplay itself is pretty odd.
 

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I really hate what they did with Annette, trying to give her some redemption arc. It's so dumb. She worked for years trying to make a horrible unstoppable monster but... didn't intend to make any monsters? She tortured orphans to death (something the remake itself added) but we're supposed to pretend that this character is somehow redeemable? She doesn't make any sense here, it was far better in the original where she was evil and died a hilarious death getting crushed by some rocks or whatever happened to her.
I don't see Annette having a redemption arc per se. Also, I don't think it says she tortured children. It's certainly established that Umbrella was experimenting on children, but that didn't extend to torture, nor did Annette have a direct hand in it (though was almost certainly aware of it).

But that aside, like I said, Annette isn't redeemed in my eyes. She gets some redemption, but it doesn't excuse the bad she does, it's just her trying to make up for it as best she can, both in terms of the outbreak, of William, and her relationship with Sherry.

I'll be honest, I really liked the take on Annette in the game (actually, I think most characters benefit from better presentation). It's far more palatable than how Annette hammed it up in the original version. Here, we see that she's well meaning, but socially indept, especially in her relationship with Sherry.

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do people generally play resident evil games for an immersive narrative experience rather than for survival, horror, and working out which way to go with puzzles (gameplay)?
Raises hand...sort of.

I mean, look, RE4 is my #1 RE game, but it sure as hell isn't in that spot for the quality of its story. But I've always been invested in the characters and lore from day 1. Even if it got convoluted as hell later from what I can see, RE2 at least is spared the excesses of later entries. But as I said earlier, RE2 vanilla has the better plot, while RE2 remake has the better storytelling (and yes, plot and storytelling are two separate aspects of narrative).
 

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Hawki said:
Drathnoxis said:
I really hate what they did with Annette, trying to give her some redemption arc. It's so dumb. She worked for years trying to make a horrible unstoppable monster but... didn't intend to make any monsters? She tortured orphans to death (something the remake itself added) but we're supposed to pretend that this character is somehow redeemable? She doesn't make any sense here, it was far better in the original where she was evil and died a hilarious death getting crushed by some rocks or whatever happened to her.
I don't see Annette having a redemption arc per se. Also, I don't think it says she tortured children. It's certainly established that Umbrella was experimenting on children, but that didn't extend to torture, nor did Annette have a direct hand in it (though was almost certainly aware of it).

But that aside, like I said, Annette isn't redeemed in my eyes. She gets some redemption, but it doesn't excuse the bad she does, it's just her trying to make up for it as best she can, both in terms of the outbreak, of William, and her relationship with Sherry.

I'll be honest, I really liked the take on Annette in the game (actually, I think most characters benefit from better presentation). It's far more palatable than how Annette hammed it up in the original version. Here, we see that she's well meaning, but socially indept, especially in her relationship with Sherry.

dscross said:
do people generally play resident evil games for an immersive narrative experience rather than for survival, horror, and working out which way to go with puzzles (gameplay)?
Raises hand...sort of.

I mean, look, RE4 is my #1 RE game, but it sure as hell isn't in that spot for the quality of its story. But I've always been invested in the characters and lore from day 1. Even if it got convoluted as hell later from what I can see, RE2 at least is spared the excesses of later entries. But as I said earlier, RE2 vanilla has the better plot, while RE2 remake has the better storytelling (and yes, plot and storytelling are two separate aspects of narrative).
I played the RE games for all the above most of the time and I agree with you. And before anyone starts, no I don't want hear the Moviebob contrarian, opinion, the games have all terrible stories that are impossible adapt. This guy claims that the live action movies have better stories than the games since 2009. The movies are boring as fuck. They almost had it when George A. Romero's original script with only a few things changed here and there. Otherwise, it was an accurate adaption of RE1. The reason why it never saw the light of day, because Hollywood execs didn't "get it" and thought it was too weird. Almost all of the RE protagonist have more depth and charisma than Alice; exceptions being the guy from the first Gun Survivor and the protagonist from Dead Aim. Sorry for the slightly off-tangent rant, but I had to throw that out there.