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AntonicKnight

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Well if it was an RPG then changing the course of history would kinda kill its "sub-genre" of WW2 purpose, don't you think?
 

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8bitlove2a03 said:
There is no reason whatsoever to revive WWII FPS games. It has been done, and redone, and then done some more. It's stale now because THERE IS NOTHING LEFT TO DO.
That is where you're wrong. As previously stated, the games have explored about... 5% of WWII as a whole. We just need to stop doing the same things over and over again.
 

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sketch_zeppelin said:
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no no no no, we do not need to revive the WWII genre. if your missing the genre then play one of the many titles out for it already. I wan't fps games that aren't...well shooters per say. i'd like to see somthing set in fudal japan or rome, somthing that hasn't already been done to death. you can acutally make a decent first person game that doesn't have guns.

hell heres an idea for you. a first person game where your running for your life from jason vorhees. hell you can even have muiltplayer. one player is randomly jason and all the others have to gather together a set number of items to escape. you could have verses or co-op modes that force the players to gather (or even fight over) the supplies on there own or get them as a team. you could even have a team vs team mechanic all the while having to watch out for the nearly invincible jason.
How can you have an FPS with out it being a shooter?
Its that kind of thinking that kept us ass deep with WWII games!
but....but....an FPS is a first person shooter, how can you have a first person shooter with swords...wouldn't that be a first person....hacker?
only if you let the lanuage get in the way of the fun...if it really bothers you then look at it this way, by hitting the guy with the sword i'm shooting blood at myself.
I had to avoid using the term First Person Slasher, or First Person Stabber so it wouldn't still be FPS
 

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The thing that turns me off WWII games is the inaccuracies, No america you didn't do absolutly everything all by yourself.

When they give me a playable russian chracter going through the hardship of a soviet winter cooped up in stalingrad or a Norwegian commando stealth game destroying the damn at Telemark then escaping back to unoccupied territory without capture then I'll play them.
 

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TheIronRuler said:
Kadoodle said:
For some reason people dislike WWII shooters. I never understood why. Many tell me that there are way to many out there all ready, and that they are boring. Really?

See, I just watched the first 10 minutes of Saving Private Ryan. And it makes me think that WWII games need a reboot. Possibly the biggest problem is that there aren't many games out there that really grab at the mood, feel, and action of WWII. Probably the best WWII game out there is COD: WAW, which would have been amazing if the graphics were better and the campaign was longer. I think we need another COD: WAW. Yet everybody's reaction is "We're sick of WWII."

It's sort of like saying you're sick of eating ice cream when what you've been eating is really just frozen horse semen with eggs.

Just look at the opening scenes in the previously mentioned movie. They're dark, gritty, exciting, horrific, and all around amazing. So, tell me, what would it take to get that in a game?
That depends on one question -
Can you find any other antagonists that you can shoot and kill, real humans, without felling remorse besides Nazies?
Yes.
Zombies and variations (necromorphs and such)
Space Nazies (*cough* Hellgast *cough*)
Japanese and Italians. Also Russians, if the devs actually go for the "play as an average German grunt" approach for once. I bet playing as a Japanese soldier would be pretty fun.
 

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artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
no no no no, we do not need to revive the WWII genre. if your missing the genre then play one of the many titles out for it already. I wan't fps games that aren't...well shooters per say. i'd like to see somthing set in fudal japan or rome, somthing that hasn't already been done to death. you can acutally make a decent first person game that doesn't have guns.

hell heres an idea for you. a first person game where your running for your life from jason vorhees. hell you can even have muiltplayer. one player is randomly jason and all the others have to gather together a set number of items to escape. you could have verses or co-op modes that force the players to gather (or even fight over) the supplies on there own or get them as a team. you could even have a team vs team mechanic all the while having to watch out for the nearly invincible jason.
How can you have an FPS with out it being a shooter?
Its that kind of thinking that kept us ass deep with WWII games!
but....but....an FPS is a first person shooter, how can you have a first person shooter with swords...wouldn't that be a first person....hacker?
only if you let the lanuage get in the way of the fun...if it really bothers you then look at it this way, by hitting the guy with the sword i'm shooting blood at myself.
I had to avoid using the term First Person Slasher, or First Person Stabber so it wouldn't still be FPS
*blinks* I think you just proved my point.
 

artanis_neravar

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sketch_zeppelin said:
artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
no no no no, we do not need to revive the WWII genre. if your missing the genre then play one of the many titles out for it already. I wan't fps games that aren't...well shooters per say. i'd like to see somthing set in fudal japan or rome, somthing that hasn't already been done to death. you can acutally make a decent first person game that doesn't have guns.

hell heres an idea for you. a first person game where your running for your life from jason vorhees. hell you can even have muiltplayer. one player is randomly jason and all the others have to gather together a set number of items to escape. you could have verses or co-op modes that force the players to gather (or even fight over) the supplies on there own or get them as a team. you could even have a team vs team mechanic all the while having to watch out for the nearly invincible jason.
How can you have an FPS with out it being a shooter?
Its that kind of thinking that kept us ass deep with WWII games!
but....but....an FPS is a first person shooter, how can you have a first person shooter with swords...wouldn't that be a first person....hacker?
only if you let the lanuage get in the way of the fun...if it really bothers you then look at it this way, by hitting the guy with the sword i'm shooting blood at myself.
I had to avoid using the term First Person Slasher, or First Person Stabber so it wouldn't still be FPS
*blinks* I think you just proved my point.
I did indeed
 

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Now this is just me, but I always thought that there should be a survival horror set in WWII (no not nazi zombies) Not sure entirely how it would work, but like a paratrooper totally misses his mark and lands in somewhere where some creepy stuff is going down.
 

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The "WWII game" ruined gaming, now we no longer need a storyline in a game, just a command hierarchy and someone to bark orders at us.

There are no motivations to do anything in games nowadays unless your commanding officer is telling you to do it.
 

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LobsterFeng said:
Now this is just me, but I always thought that there should be a survival horror set in WWII (no not nazi zombies) Not sure entirely how it would work, but like a paratrooper totally misses his mark and lands in somewhere where some creepy stuff is going down.
Which is either Wolfenstein or Nazi zombies.
That's strange because you didn't want to refer to nazi zombies.
 

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Ugh...and have more unquestionably heroic american GIs mow down german and japanese soldiers by the truckload in some pathetically unrealistic way that will make the average uneducated/retarded gamer think that there was some sort of glory to be found in that war that happened exactly as portrayed in the bloody game. Thanks, but no thanks. The only ww2 game I actually enjoyed was Battlefield 1942, and that was only because the multiplayer allowed for so many vehicles in addition to the forced teamplay.

Here's a ww2 game I would actually play:
First, you pick your country. You are a lowly private in the army of the country you chose. You go through basic training, becoming familiar with equipment and choosing a specialty. The war breaks out, and you fight on the frontlines. The combat is realistic, one hit and you're out, and your story will be over. You are only a single soldier, so your actions will not decide the fate of a battle, but you will be able to protect your comrades. The idea is not to win, but to survive, to go on and continue to fight. You will see the major battles your company has historically been involved in, which will increase replay value. The war will end accurately, and you will not be the one to raise the red flag over the Reichstag, or pilot the Enola Gay. You are a nobody, and your epilog will tell the tale of this nameless soldier, how many of his comrades lived, whether he faced trail for war crimes, whether he died of wounds, or whether he became a hero. The idea is to show that there are no heroes in war, just soldiers following orders.
 

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Kadoodle said:
Rex Dark said:
WWII is a genre now?
As far as I know it's just a setting... (in games)
Sorry, I should have said FPS subgenre.
i would say WWII is definitely a genre there is so many it is definately a genre now it didnt use to be now it should
 

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You should probably try out every Brothers in Arms game. Yes, I do want another WWII game, but that's only because I know a shitton about WWII. I find it very fun to point out the flaws in history of most, if not all, WWII games. However, if you're a PC player, the newest Red Orchestra game is coming out soon (if it hasn't already) AND it's soundtrack is being made by Sam Hulick, the guy who made the Mass Effect soundtrack.
 

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thethingthatlurks said:
Here's a ww2 game I would actually play:
First, you pick your country. You are a lowly private in the army of the country you chose. You go through basic training, becoming familiar with equipment and choosing a specialty. The war breaks out, and you fight on the frontlines. The combat is realistic, one hit and you're out, and your story will be over. You are only a single soldier, so your actions will not decide the fate of a battle, but you will be able to protect your comrades. The idea is not to win, but to survive, to go on and continue to fight. You will see the major battles your company has historically been involved in, which will increase replay value. The war will end accurately, and you will not be the one to raise the red flag over the Reichstag, or pilot the Enola Gay. You are a nobody, and your epilog will tell the tale of this nameless soldier, how many of his comrades lived, whether he faced trail for war crimes, whether he died of wounds, or whether he became a hero. The idea is to show that there are no heroes in war, just soldiers following orders.
great now you got me hooked on a game that probably wont happen thank you very much
 

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no, i danced on the genre's grave, it may be upset if it is revived.

i dislike the WWII games because they are all the same, same guns, fighting the same enemy. if i wanted the same everything, all the time, i would play world of warcraft.
 

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keep an eye out for stewart Black's next game
its supposed to be some kind of ww2 fps/Black hybrid

also
why no alternate ww2 games where the germans have mechs and the japanese have ninjas?
 

artanis_neravar

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thethingthatlurks said:
Ugh...and have more unquestionably heroic american GIs mow down german and japanese soldiers by the truckload in some pathetically unrealistic way that will make the average uneducated/retarded gamer think that there was some sort of glory to be found in that war that happened exactly as portrayed in the bloody game. Thanks, but no thanks. The only ww2 game I actually enjoyed was Battlefield 1942, and that was only because the multiplayer allowed for so many vehicles in addition to the forced teamplay.

Here's a ww2 game I would actually play:
First, you pick your country. You are a lowly private in the army of the country you chose. You go through basic training, becoming familiar with equipment and choosing a specialty. The war breaks out, and you fight on the frontlines. The combat is realistic, one hit and you're out, and your story will be over. You are only a single soldier, so your actions will not decide the fate of a battle, but you will be able to protect your comrades. The idea is not to win, but to survive, to go on and continue to fight. You will see the major battles your company has historically been involved in, which will increase replay value. The war will end accurately, and you will not be the one to raise the red flag over the Reichstag, or pilot the Enola Gay. You are a nobody, and your epilog will tell the tale of this nameless soldier, how many of his comrades lived, whether he faced trail for war crimes, whether he died of wounds, or whether he became a hero. The idea is to show that there are no heroes in war, just soldiers following orders.
In World War 2 464 people received the Medal of Honor for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his or her life above and beyond the call of duty while engaged in an action against an enemy of the United States. So there are heroes in war. And what's wrong with playing as the pilot of the Enola Gay?
 

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I wanna play as the 'bad guys' at some point.

Fly in the attack at Hawaii, defend my homeland at the battle(s) of the bulge.
 

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tanis1lionheart said:
I wanna play as the 'bad guys' at some point.

Fly in the attack at Hawaii, defend my homeland at the battle(s) of the bulge.
Fly in the bombing runs of London
 

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artanis_neravar said:
tanis1lionheart said:
I wanna play as the 'bad guys' at some point.
Fly in the attack at Hawaii,
defend my homeland at the battle(s) of the bulge,
Fly in the bombing runs of London,
Invade Africa,
Attempt to take Moscow,