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O maestre said:
Yes I know that is why I also mentioned Phoenix Jones in my post, and does anybody regard him as sane?

In a country that fellates Ayn Rand, what is, sane, anyway?

I mean, yeah, this is a little glib, but I sometimes wonder if maybe the whole country's crazy (overall, not individuals). I'm not even sure Jones breaks any sort of critical threshold at this point.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
O maestre said:
Yes I know that is why I also mentioned Phoenix Jones in my post, and does anybody regard him as sane?

In a country that fellates Ayn Rand, what is, sane, anyway?

I mean, yeah, this is a little glib, but I sometimes wonder if maybe the whole country's crazy (overall, not individuals). I'm not even sure Jones breaks any sort of critical threshold at this point.
I guess, in a nation populated by mental patients at least Phoenix Jones is clearly labelled as such. Mind you that was just an exaggeration for humours sake, I don't actually believe that the entire US is insane.

I wonder how Ayn Rand would feel about Batman, I think she would be rather pleased with him, a rich old money wasp physically beating up the villainous lower class.
 

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O maestre said:
I guess, in a nation populated by mental patients at least Phoenix Jones is clearly labelled as such. Mind you that was just an exaggeration for humours sake, I don't actually believe that the entire US is insane.

I wonder how Ayn Rand would feel about Batman, I think she would be rather pleased with him, a rich old money wasp physically beating up the villainous lower class.
I think Ayn Rand's works weren't exactly in line with her own philosophy. She was a commie leech suckling at the government's teat, you know. But modern Batman seems to be fairly Randian in terms of the fiction.

I think that's why Batman is so popular in America. He's a rich sociopath who makes his own rules in a world where authority is pegged as corrupt and/or incompetent. Bruce Wayne keeps the city running, while Batman wrecks easily-identified bad guys for the greater good.
 

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Probably because Batman's original stories were fairly dark. He started in a magazine called "Detective Comics" for crying out loud. And since he's (by superhero standards) just a man, so are his most well-known villains. Two-Face, Harley Quinn, Catwoman, The Joker, Penguin and lots more are either just mental patients or conniving criminals, not interstellar annihilators like Thanos, Doomsday or Parallax. His scale is basically limited to one city instead of trying to save entire solar systems, and therefore it needs to be a bit more fleshed out and believable so it may still feel like a place that might actually exist.
 

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O maestre said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
O maestre said:
Yes I know that is why I also mentioned Phoenix Jones in my post, and does anybody regard him as sane?

In a country that fellates Ayn Rand, what is, sane, anyway?

I mean, yeah, this is a little glib, but I sometimes wonder if maybe the whole country's crazy (overall, not individuals). I'm not even sure Jones breaks any sort of critical threshold at this point.
I guess, in a nation populated by mental patients at least Phoenix Jones is clearly labelled as such. Mind you that was just an exaggeration for humours sake, I don't actually believe that the entire US is insane.

I wonder how Ayn Rand would feel about Batman, I think she would be rather pleased with him, a rich old money wasp physically beating up the villainous lower class.
I think she'd prefer Ra's Al Ghul - he became immortal by his own doing, and now plots to kill all others. She'd hate Bane, on the other hand.