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Flamezdudes

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HentMas said:
i am trying to get it for the PC, i heard the graphics are amazing in the PC, is it true??

oh! and if i can, i will be female, i dont care race or fighting stile, but i enjoy having a female character (one can be female in game right??)
The graphics are fine but PC has better graphics overall depending on how good your PC specs are. And yes you can choose to be Female and choose your groups etc.
 

HentMas

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Flamezdudes said:
HentMas said:
i am trying to get it for the PC, i heard the graphics are amazing in the PC, is it true??

oh! and if i can, i will be female, i dont care race or fighting stile, but i enjoy having a female character (one can be female in game right??)
The graphics are fine but PC has better graphics overall depending on how good your PC specs are. And yes you can choose to be Female and choose your groups etc.
well... i dont know, i run with a laptop (sony Vaio) but i was thinking on building a monster to run my PC games, i´ve had to much trouble with my consoles, and i think if i invest in a good PC it would be worth it.
 

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I've made a decision never to use Blood Dragon armor in any future playthroughs. It kinda kills the joy of fighting a series of boss battles against Revenants (VERY tough undead) to acquire a unique set of Tier 6 Plate (Juggernaut armor), only to check the stats and go "meh". In fact, I'll be disabling all my DLC items, except perhaps one per character (to represent a family heirloom). This is supposed to be a low magic setting, so it's kinda silly to be running around decked in epixxx from level 1...
 

Mana Fiend

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Playing as a City Elf Rogue; mostly an archer, but also hitting with a dual-wield when forced into melee. On the 360, but I'm seeing no major problems with graphics. Sure, it's not a pretty as it could be, but it's more than bearable. Damn fun game too :)

Got my first TPK the other day too, in Redcliff. Kicked open a door and ended up mobbed by war dogs. Probably shouldn't have led with the archer and mage... :( Oh well, gonna go kill them real soon ;)
 

Duke Nil

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40 hours in, quite possibly my favorite game of all time. Now I must do a week's worth of homework before 8am
 

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Jandau said:
I've made a decision never to use Blood Dragon armor in any future playthroughs. It kinda kills the joy of fighting a series of boss battles against Revenants (VERY tough undead) to acquire a unique set of Tier 6 Plate (Juggernaut armor), only to check the stats and go "meh". In fact, I'll be disabling all my DLC items, except perhaps one per character (to represent a family heirloom). This is supposed to be a low magic setting, so it's kinda silly to be running around decked in epixxx from level 1...
Yeah I'm probably going to do the same, it's cool for a bit but yeah it kinda ruins the loot-whoring
 

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9NineBreaker9 said:
I hated my actions not ever feeling like they actually had any sort of weight on the universe, or at least none that I could ever distinguish.
I thought Mass Effect was a video game not a real-life simulator... (that's a joke aimed at my own life BTW).
 

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Flamezdudes said:
Baby Tea said:
I got it for the 360, and am just about to do the ritual to become a Grey Warden.
So I'm not very far at all.

But! It's good so far! I'm very intrigued and excited to see the game pan out.
I'm a City Elf Rogue. Just thought I'd throw that in.
Are the graphics really bad? From what i've seen in videos, it doesn't look bad at all for the 360 version. I've watches streams too but others say its graphics aren't good at all.

I've pre-ordered it, i can't wait for Friday! :D
The graphics don't look bad on youtube type videos because you think the textures look crappy from compressed video. They look crappy all the time. The character animations are terrible too. Wish they would have been ballzy and gone for a more unique art style. Pretty sick of the Oblivion style fantasy crap.

Other than all that, the game seems good. Just finished my origin as an elf mage on PS3. I wouldn't discourage anyone from getting this on a console. The menus are all pretty well done and responsive. The only thing you'd be missing out on is the free user-made content that will come out in many months for PC.
 

Trotgar

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What is the combat system like? I watched a few youtube videos and it looks a bit like BG's but more boring and less tactical (a bit like KotOR's).
 

Plinglebob

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I spent 3 days over the weekend playing this and I really enjoy the story and the characters (go Shale) I would advise against playing a warrior with the Sword/Shield combo as it gets very boring very quickly and Shale or Alistair make far better tanks as giving them their tactics is nice and easy. Restarted after 7 hours because I got fed up with my Dwarf. Been playing as a mage and I've been having a lot more fun. This playthrough I've mostly been taking options that I feel like exploring, but next time I'm going to play through as a Female Elf Rogue being as cold-hearted/evil as possible.

I have to say, I think the Dwarf origin story is the first time I've ever thought the same thing as my character

When it turns out your youngest brother has been playing you as a patsy, I was banging my head on the table trying to figure out how it was I didn't see it coming.

I think the only Really annoying thing is the way the computer works out how the NPC's should level before you get them which meant I ended up going through about 6 levels without anyone able to open locks as the computer decided my Elf friend shouldn't learn that.
 

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Runding said:
About 11hrs in here but not making much progress on the main story as I keep getting distracted by all the side quests. I think I've been wondering around the Dwarf city for about 3hrs now soaking everything up and now gearing up to travel through the Deep Roads.

Very curious to get the Stone guy that came with free DLC. What area on the world map do I need to travel to?
Shale is seriously awesome. The area you need to go to is called Sulcher's pass, or something similar. It's north west-ish.
 

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Xandus117 said:
I just started the game today, as a Dalish Elf.

The game is awesome so far, and I especially like the characters.

I do find the combat a bit rough though. Seems a lot like KOTOR's combat system.
Yeah it's a bit iffy, very slow and needs a target tabbing system. Luckily as the game advances the combat actually kicks it up a notch and gets more and more amusing.
 

PedroSteckecilo

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I am quite displeased with how the DLC is being integrated into the game. I don't begrudge Bioware/EA for including day one DLC, Dragon Age is a massive product that doesn't seem to skimp on anything, posing far more quests/sidequests than any sane individual wants to pursue in a single game, or even multiple games. However, when you come across someone whom proposes a quest to you, and the accepting dialogue is "Yes I will do this (Purchase DLC)" it is both jarring to the games immersion and infuriating to someone who expected a full product from the get go.
 

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I'm loving it. The Dwarf Noble origin was fantastic (and I agree with Plinglebob, I can't believe I didn't see it coming).

What happened at the ritual really put me off the Grey Wardens in a big way, though.
It's going to take some really great storytelling to make me stop wanting to kill Duncan after he killed that guy.
 

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PedroSteckecilo said:
I am quite displeased with how the DLC is being integrated into the game. I don't begrudge Bioware/EA for including day one DLC, Dragon Age is a massive product that doesn't seem to skimp on anything, posing far more quests/sidequests than any sane individual wants to pursue in a single game, or even multiple games. However, when you come across someone whom proposes a quest to you, and the accepting dialogue is "Yes I will do this (Purchase DLC)" it is both jarring to the games immersion and infuriating to someone who expected a full product from the get go.
Yes, that merchant that shows up in your camp is a bit off-putting regarding the DLC. As I understand it, he exists within the game whether you purchase the DLC or not. I would prefer just buying the DLC, then he shows up. Or, at least, you get some quest text giving you directions to the new content.

I am curious to know if there are more of these 'DLC NPCs' hidden within the vanilla game that will be 'unlocked' through patches as new DLC comes out. Or, if future game patches will include new NPCs that offer DLC.
 

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Well I am about to start on my third god damn mage. Mage 1 was doing OK but she was beat with an ugly stick (she looked ok in creation but she didn't look very good in the real world). And I kept seeing all these locked chests so I figured I might need a skill (like stealing) to open them. So mage #2 was born. And man does he look slick. His face is just the way I imagined it (both in creation and in game) so I started giving him tons of cunning and stealing. And he still can't open a damn chest. So now I have a rogue who is classed as a mage and he must die. Bright side is I get to watch that epic battle again. Down side is I still won't get to kill Jowan
 

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I'm in a place where I want it, but I know I should take care of my other RPGs until the price drops. I'll probably end up picking it up at Steam's boxing day sale.

Instead, I started Baldur's Gate 2 (which I've never played) yesterday. I've always had problems getting into Infinity Engine games, never having gotten past the tutorial of BG2 or the first couple of hours of Planescape: Torment. I'm stil having issues with the game, but it looks like this playthrough might bring about the breakthrough I've been waiting for.
 

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I wanted to play through all of it before commenting, and having done that I can say that Good morning blues has the right idea. Baldur's Gate 2 is still unsurpassed when it comes to RPG storytelling, and Dragon Age didn't come close.

First off, I'm a huge Bioware fan and all their previous games have been enjoyable, and some of them at the very top of my list (BG2 and Mass Effect most notably).
And then they had to release this. In many ways, Dragon Age is to Bioware what "Cars" is to Pixar - a mediocre offering from the best company in the biz. There's no denying that a lot of time and effort has been put into both of them, but there's just no soul in either.

Perhaps the biggest and most sad problem with Dragon Age is the all-overshadowing "Lord of the Rings" complex it suffers from. Every little design detail SCREAMS out "omg Peter Jackson is the coolest visionary ever everything in this game must be just like in his vision of Tolkien's world!", which frankly gets pathetic after the third cutscene with flaming arrows raining down on the not-orcs-at-all. And defeating the big bad was not a moment of triumph but a huge facepalm moment as
it led to an explosion at the top of a tower causing the desperate defenders and overwhelming foes alike to pause and look up and then the orcs (no, darkspawn, sorry) fled in panic. It was so identical to the final battle of "The Return of the King" that it wasn't even funny.
Even the player races are limited to the Tolkien flavors - human, elf and dwarf. The only vaguely interesting (because of being original) race in the game - qunari - is unplayable.

Bioware's strength has always been the interesting NPC's, but the ones here were so lackluster I couldn't care about ANY of them. Sure, the elf and the dwarf had a couple of funny moments, but with the massive amount of semi-humorous writing crammed in it's an hit-and-miss approach, with more misses than hits. I was especially unimpressed with the option of telling the sorceress, upon her complaining about your dog leaving a dead animal among her "unmentionables", that it couldn't possible smell worse than what usually is in them.
But then I realized that it just had to be an example of the "mature writing" that was so highly touted. Seriously, the "tough moral choices" are always of the kill-or-don't-kill variety and the plot twists were so unoriginal I could anticipate every single one. It's not bragging, by the way - it's lamenting.

As for the writing, spelling "Sir" as "Ser" and "Earl" as "Arl" DOES NOT feel fresh or original. I am sure we would have understood even if they had made up entirely new titles for them - would have been no problem if they'd explained them as thoroughly as everything else they felt may have been in the slightest doubt to the average player. After all, I had no less than eight different NPC's proclaim that an "apostate" is a rogue magic user, something that has no bearing whatsoever on the main storyline.

In Mass Effect, I hunted down every last piece of lore available because I was genuinely interested in that universe and wanted to learn more. In this, all the lore was a big yawn of "been there, seen it, done that" because of the "Tolkien light" vibe and the influences from all kinds of bad fantasy writing in the same vein.

Still, it IS a Bioware game and as such it wasn't totally unenjoyable. Some quests felt a bit interesting, a couple of the backstories were not abysmal, and even if the combat AI was unreliable to say the least it could be circumvented by always controlling the mage, which saved hours as every failure leads to 30 seconds of reload time. (Every time you enter a new building, floor or even room also causes the same load time, but I found no way around that.:p)
And if this is your first or second RPG, I'm sure it could be awesome as heck. But I've been gaming for 25 years now, I played pen and paper RPG's before any were available on computers, I've tried every genre of storytelling games; and from that perspective, Dragon Age simply doesn't measure up. And no amount of fanboy abuse (which will follow this soon, I wager) will change that opinion.


PS. This being advertised as "the spiritual successor" to Baldur's Gate 2 might have been justified with the many references to it - but they were usually only offputting, like the load-screen advice to "If all else fails, go for the eyes [Boo]" and the most powerful enemy in the game being an undead in a nondescript city house named Gaxkang. In BG2, the most powerful enemy was an undead in a nondescript city house named Kangax, but that one at least had the decency of awarding you with something worthwhile upon slaying. Another Dragon Age mistake.)