That no one in their right mind considers those three anime to be the "big three" anything.RJ 17 said:
Yeesh. You should list the titles you plan to talk about in the subject so people
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Lets Talk The Big 3 (Anime shows)
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Yeesh. You should list the titles you plan to talk about in the subject so people
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I watched the big 3 around 4-5 years back and along the way I ended up dropped out of Bleach due to it's ever long convo/battle pacing style and arcs, Naruto I managed to get up to Shippuden's episodes but over time the plot to me got out of hand so I ended up giving it up.
one Piece on the other hand has never once bored me and still continues to amaze me simply because the majority of the characters have their unique abilities but also share the same weakness; they will sink and drown in water because of the devil fruit they ate. The main crew themselves interested me more than the other two shows because each character came from a totally different area and background from the world of One Piece and they all had their own goals and came together to work towards the common goal of finding One Piece and being the best Pirate crew around.
That and the world of OP was always random from East Blue to where the Thriller bark along with some real world Pirates being thrown in like Blackbeard, Bartholomew Kuma (Bartholomew Roberts) etc.
I know Whitebeard isn't based on a real life Pirate but he's still fucking ripped like hell and has that daunting aura about him (The Navy threw everything they had at him and he was still standing despite multiple stab wounds, loads of soldiers hanging onto him/shooting him).
one Piece on the other hand has never once bored me and still continues to amaze me simply because the majority of the characters have their unique abilities but also share the same weakness; they will sink and drown in water because of the devil fruit they ate. The main crew themselves interested me more than the other two shows because each character came from a totally different area and background from the world of One Piece and they all had their own goals and came together to work towards the common goal of finding One Piece and being the best Pirate crew around.
That and the world of OP was always random from East Blue to where the Thriller bark along with some real world Pirates being thrown in like Blackbeard, Bartholomew Kuma (Bartholomew Roberts) etc.
I know Whitebeard isn't based on a real life Pirate but he's still fucking ripped like hell and has that daunting aura about him (The Navy threw everything they had at him and he was still standing despite multiple stab wounds, loads of soldiers hanging onto him/shooting him).
"Naruto" had a lot of potential. I liked it for a little while, and then it spiraled off into infinite filler.
"Bleach" was better before the Soul Society arc, in my opinion. I kept watching it until about halfway through the Bount arc before abandoning it as well.
"One Piece" I just never bothered watching to start with.
I know I'm not saying anything original or interesting here, but that's really all there is to it. I don't like a series to go on forever; I want there to be defined character arcs and a reasonable conclusion before we start to get sick of it all.
"Bleach" was better before the Soul Society arc, in my opinion. I kept watching it until about halfway through the Bount arc before abandoning it as well.
"One Piece" I just never bothered watching to start with.
I know I'm not saying anything original or interesting here, but that's really all there is to it. I don't like a series to go on forever; I want there to be defined character arcs and a reasonable conclusion before we start to get sick of it all.
Regardless of your personal tastes, the fact remains that these three shows are still wildly popular. As I mentioned in my OP, I've dabbled in two of them but didn't care much for them either...but guess what? That's exactly what this topic is for. In fact, posts like yours are exactly what this topic is for: clearly you despise these shows and to be honest I can easily understand why. I would like to remind you, however, that your personal tastes don't make you superior in any way to other people with differing tastes.Bara_no_Hime said:
So thanks for stopping by and participating.
Heck, that's why I like anime more than normal television. Anime typically end, whereas the average t.v. show just blunders on until it becomes self parody. Those shows do the same, and I lost interest quickly. It's sad when a show entirely devoted to action is really boring. Evangellion and Serial Experiment Lain were 90% talking, and they were way more interesting than the big three.RJ 17 said:First as a primer: here's the inspiration for this topic:
Yes yes, old youtube video is old. Still, I think it does bring up a fun topic of discussion.
To start things off, I'll go ahead and declare myself as a non-fan of these series. The problem that I had with these shows is that they never frickin' end (exaggeration). They just keep going and going and going and oh look it's another 30-50 episode filler arc. I had my run with both Naruto and Bleach (never got into One Piece), but I just got impatient. It takes 60 frickin' episodes to finish a conversation and two fights (more exaggeration). I won't deny that I REALLY liked the fight scenes in Bleach, but just when you thought the story was FINALLY going to get to the good stuff: insert filler-arc for three months!
Naruto was decent, I mean who doesn't like ninjas, right? But it suffered from the same problem: it just dragged on and on and on. And really I just ended up coming to the conclusion that I liked shows that have a decent run-time (maybe 30-60 episodes) but ultimately have a very clear and defined end. That's why shows like Cowboy Bebop and Ghost in the Shell: SAC appeal to me. They don't need to stretch themselves out for 10 million episodes just to tell a story that another anime could tell in 70 episodes.
That, and I just came to the realization that Naruto and Bleach were just DBZ with ninjas and death-gods, respectively.
So, my fellow Escapists, what are your thoughts on The Big Three?
They're all right, I guess. Not really my thing but if you like it, whatev. Don't hate 'em, and I'll watch if they're on. They're basically all I'm able to watch, since I can't stream or download anything on my piss-poor connection. I have to rely on TV for anime. Which basically means the only anime I get is from Toonami.
*sigh* You lucky people and your fast internets...
*sigh* You lucky people and your fast internets...
Watched One Piece on and off a couple years ago. It was fun enough, but seemed a bit directionless. It's pretty good to pass the time, but I wouldn't call myself a huge fan. Was thinking of giving it another try, though.
Naruto I watched quite a bit of for lack of anything better to do. To be completely honest, hated every minute of it. The humor fell flat, the characters were all unlikable, and the fighting was yawn-inducing for me. Boredom was pretty much the only reason I kept watching.
As for Bleach... haven't seen a single episode of it. The art-style kind of irks me, but if I come across an episode I'll probably give it a look. Being a gamer has trained me not to care enough about visuals to let it get in the way of a good story.
Naruto I watched quite a bit of for lack of anything better to do. To be completely honest, hated every minute of it. The humor fell flat, the characters were all unlikable, and the fighting was yawn-inducing for me. Boredom was pretty much the only reason I kept watching.
As for Bleach... haven't seen a single episode of it. The art-style kind of irks me, but if I come across an episode I'll probably give it a look. Being a gamer has trained me not to care enough about visuals to let it get in the way of a good story.
**tips ironic beret**RJ 17 said:Regardless of your personal tastes, the fact remains that these three shows are still wildly popular. As I mentioned in my OP, I've dabbled in two of them but didn't care much for them either...but guess what? That's exactly what this topic is for. In fact, posts like yours are exactly what this topic is for: clearly you despise these shows and to be honest I can easily understand why. I would like to remind you, however, that your personal tastes don't make you superior in any way to other people with differing tastes.Bara_no_Hime said:
So thanks for stopping by and participating.
Actually, I don't despise them. Well, except for Naruto. And yes, they are wildly popular... this year. There are, however, shows whose popularity a few years ago easily dwarfed them. Someone mentioned Cowboy Bebop and Trigun. I'm not a huge Trigun fan, but it is a lot closer to being a "big three" than Once Piece.
Sailor Moon and Neon Genesis Evangelion both had fanbases that make any of those "big three" look like a joke.
My criticism wasn't to you (aside from not putting the three titles in your topic, which I think you should) but for the person who called these the "big three" in the first place.
I used to watch One Piece but the pace is fucking excruciating. Takes like 20 fucking episodes to finish a fight. I gave it up because I just couldn't take it anymore. It's a shame because I do like the world and characters.
As for Bleach I enjoyed the Soul Society Arc but didn't really bother after that.
As for Bleach I enjoyed the Soul Society Arc but didn't really bother after that.
For me Ultimate was a piece of crap because of massive tonal inconsistency with slapstick-humor feeling so incredibly forced.Ishigami said:
For just how dark/evil Hellsing can get, the countless attempts at slapstick comedy (especially with Seras) just kept booting me out of the whole thing.
There are way too many anime to list "the big 3" but if we divide them in to classics vs more recent products...Cowboy Bebop, Ghost In The Shell and Rurouni Kenshin are my big 3 of classics.
Well wouldn't that....wouldn't that make them the current big three then?Bara_no_Hime said:
I'm certainly not going to argue the point that there aren't anime out there that have been just as popular. Hell, Nostalgia Critic's most recent video was a discussion on why Sailor Moon was so unbelievably popular (great NC episode, by the way). But these are the three that are currently the most popular, though even now there's shows that are gaining more and more popularity as these three shows are beginning their slide on into anime history.
If I were to make a list of my personal All Time Big 3, it'd be Cowboy Bebop, Rurouni Kenshin (probably my favorite of all time), and Bobobo-bobo-Bobobo. Though to be fair, with Bobobo it's more for the manga than the show...I don't care what anyone else says or thinks of it, that series brings me to tears with laughter.
Yeah, I hate watching anime where it's been going on for over 100 episodes, and STILL going.
One Piece has been going on for over 600 episodes, STILL hasn't told a full story yet.
It's virtually inaccessible to newcomers.
Not a fan of any, I only watch shit that's finished, so I can actually know if it's ever going to end.
Unless it's Attack on Titan.
One Piece has been going on for over 600 episodes, STILL hasn't told a full story yet.
It's virtually inaccessible to newcomers.
Not a fan of any, I only watch shit that's finished, so I can actually know if it's ever going to end.
Unless it's Attack on Titan.
I love Bleach and it's my absolute favorite anime series ever.. and Naruto's pretty good too( though there are too many filler arcs that aren't always good. Bleach has filler too but I've never disliked the filler on Bleach never really thought of One Piece as a big anime/manga series.. i mean it's good from what little I've seen of it, but never as good as other anime/manga...I've always though of Bleach, Naruto and Neon Genesis Evangelion as the big 3 anime/manga series.. all 3 series have anime fans either loving or hating the shows.. or sometimes having in between feelings for the series.. and all three have huge follows and shit loads of merchandise too.
I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE the big three and wait patiently each week to get my fix-they were my introduction to my now favourite form of entertainment and I love them for it.
Yes they have problems and yes said problems can be severe in some cases and I can understand why people would hate it but still I just can't bring myself to have negative feeling about them ^_^.
Yes they have problems and yes said problems can be severe in some cases and I can understand why people would hate it but still I just can't bring myself to have negative feeling about them ^_^.
I watched most of naruto up to the point that the fillers got ridiculously long then I kind of got back into shipuuden before dropping it completely. I read all 3 routinely but anime wise I haven't been engrossed by a series since gurren lagann. 90's early 2000 anime puts most stuff I've seen recently to shame.
I never got into Bleach or One Piece. Naruto was enough for me. I only want to keep track of one long-running anime at a time, thank you. I've enjoyed Naruto mostly, although there have been some rough spots. The fillers I didn't mind too much because it allowed characters OTHER than Naruto to do stuff. Whenever Tenten or Hinata got their own episode, I was very pleased. Also, seeing some of the fight scenes from the manga brought to life was really enjoyable.
And then the Great Ninja War arc started. It started off strong, with Naruto being NOWHERE near the battle and the rest of the cast having to actually fight their own battles. The anime especially ran wild here, making up their own fights with enemies that only had one or two panels in the manga. I loved it. And then, when Naruto does show up, Hinata finally gets some recognition and things were really looking up.
And then stuff happened. I don't want to spoil it for people who aren't reading the new chapters from Japan, but let's just say Naruto had officially entered DBZ territory. Characters who were treated as gods are now being utterly destroyed for the simple reason to establish that a new character is the strongest character ever!!! And of course, stupid left-over plot threads are finally being brought back to life (go home Sasuke, you're drunk) and the manga has decided to just focus on Naruto again. It's getting rather annoying now, especially considering that for a brief while I got to see what the show could really be like if more characters were involved.
And then the Great Ninja War arc started. It started off strong, with Naruto being NOWHERE near the battle and the rest of the cast having to actually fight their own battles. The anime especially ran wild here, making up their own fights with enemies that only had one or two panels in the manga. I loved it. And then, when Naruto does show up, Hinata finally gets some recognition and things were really looking up.
And then stuff happened. I don't want to spoil it for people who aren't reading the new chapters from Japan, but let's just say Naruto had officially entered DBZ territory. Characters who were treated as gods are now being utterly destroyed for the simple reason to establish that a new character is the strongest character ever!!! And of course, stupid left-over plot threads are finally being brought back to life (go home Sasuke, you're drunk) and the manga has decided to just focus on Naruto again. It's getting rather annoying now, especially considering that for a brief while I got to see what the show could really be like if more characters were involved.
The three of them are being made to drag thier feet so they stay relevant, and to make as much money as possible off of merchandise sales.
Its not that their writers are bad at it, at least i hope not, its that their publishers wont let them move onto anything else, so they run out of ideas. This is particularly prevailant in Naruto, which can only resort to serial escalation to advance the plot to any significant degree.
Its not that their writers are bad at it, at least i hope not, its that their publishers wont let them move onto anything else, so they run out of ideas. This is particularly prevailant in Naruto, which can only resort to serial escalation to advance the plot to any significant degree.
Ohhh god don't remind me it has been like a year and we got maybe 3 chapters. I can't wait forever god damn it!michael87cn said:
OT: I have watched or read ALOT of all three and I agree mostly with this video except the stuff about One Piece. OP has very little filler in it and it is far better written than the other two over all. The only problem with OP is the pacing which can put people off which I totally understand. It is also the longest but I don't count that as a issue inherently cause it is subjective as to whether that is even a true flaw. Don't get me wrong OP is far from perfect and doesn't hold a candle to the real greats but it is the best of the top 3 and on a personal level I enjoy it greatly but that is a biased preference.