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Mikejames said:
Eeeh, I'm on the fence.

I actually like the premise of the power, but I'll have to see what they do with it. Will they subvert expectations and show unexpected consequences for what feels like a better choice in the short-term, or will they have it remain as a Reload Auto-save button? Will emotionally manipulating people carry weight in the end, or is it a shorthanded way to make everyone automatically like you?
I think it will have longer reaching consequences. I'm not sure what, but I have a theory:
that her actions have caused the tornado that is about to hit the town. Given how uncharacteristic the weather is, coming out of nowhere, I get the feeling she's going to be a Cassandra to their skepticism, and nobody is going to believe the tornado is coming, because there's no reason to think it would. But I think her time warping powers might be causing temporal eddies, that are going to build into that big storm. I also find it interesting, that that one social club they mentioned are called the Vortex Club. Vortex, tornado, seems unusually similar to me. And given that Chloe drives around with a truck, with a plate that says Twin Peaks on it, I think there will be some major league supernatural stuff going on in the later episodes.
It could all be red herring stuff though, but that's the angle I'm predicting they're going to go with it.
 

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ninja666 said:
The game seems promising, but what I don't get is why literally everybody must imitate Telltale's shitty business model and release the game in pieces, so you have to pay outrageous prices to be able to play the whole thing. Either way, I think I'll play it in a year or five when they decide it's time to stop milking money from the customers and release the last "episode".
This is what keeps me from it to. Contained stories is what I want. There is absolutely NOTHING that pisses me off more than an unfinished story. Cliffhangers can burn in the deepest and most acid ridden pits of hell, along with any business model based on it.

It is possible to have a continuous story, but you HAVE to deliver on your build-up. In the CURRENT game. Good examples of this: Mass Effect 1 and 2. Witcher 1 and 2 (especially 1). Baldurs Gate 1 and 2. Heavy story driven games, with a big and meaty universe, managing to BOTH write a great and engaging story with its current game, AND keep the door open for the bigger story.

Witcher 1 for example. I'd be a bit miffed if I never found out about the entire Wild Hunt thingy, but the story of Witcher 1 was finished, the bad guy was deafeated, and it had one of THE most satisfying endings I've EVER had the pleasure of experiencing. Even so, there was room for more. And since the first piece was awesome, I come back for more. THATS building a franchise. Cliffhangers and episodic bullshit is just another way of saying "sorry, we're not sure you'd want the entire product, so we have to just keep this fishhook in it for you to swallow."
 

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Happyninja42 said:
I think it will have longer reaching consequences. I'm not sure what, but I have a theory:
that her actions have caused the tornado that is about to hit the town. Given how uncharacteristic the weather is, coming out of nowhere, I get the feeling she's going to be a Cassandra to their skepticism, and nobody is going to believe the tornado is coming, because there's no reason to think it would. But I think her time warping powers might be causing temporal eddies, that are going to build into that big storm. I also find it interesting, that that one social club they mentioned are called the Vortex Club. Vortex, tornado, seems unusually similar to me. And given that Chloe drives around with a truck, with a plate that says Twin Peaks on it, I think there will be some major league supernatural stuff going on in the later episodes.
It could all be red herring stuff though, but that's the angle I'm predicting they're going to go with it.
Interesting theory. It'd add a nice duality to the conflict if you were using your powers to save people, but it only ended up perpetuating the overall disaster.

Either way, I like the idea of growing used to being able to rewind mundane mistakes, only to have it somehow backfire when increasingly dire choices have to be made.
 

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Mikejames said:
Happyninja42 said:
I think it will have longer reaching consequences. I'm not sure what, but I have a theory:
that her actions have caused the tornado that is about to hit the town. Given how uncharacteristic the weather is, coming out of nowhere, I get the feeling she's going to be a Cassandra to their skepticism, and nobody is going to believe the tornado is coming, because there's no reason to think it would. But I think her time warping powers might be causing temporal eddies, that are going to build into that big storm. I also find it interesting, that that one social club they mentioned are called the Vortex Club. Vortex, tornado, seems unusually similar to me. And given that Chloe drives around with a truck, with a plate that says Twin Peaks on it, I think there will be some major league supernatural stuff going on in the later episodes.
It could all be red herring stuff though, but that's the angle I'm predicting they're going to go with it.
Interesting theory. It'd add a nice duality to the conflict if you were using your powers to save people, but it only ended up perpetuating the overall disaster.

Either way, I like the idea of growing used to being able to rewind mundane mistakes, only to have it somehow backfire when increasingly dire choices have to be made.
Yeah, it would be interesting if you have to make hard choices to have a "greater good" kind of ending. Though I'm actually fine with how the choices are going so far. I find the game enjoyable. I've had fun letting the few times Max has made a declarative statement on her own, to define my path. Like, the first thing she decided to go do, was save someone, and not be a wall flower. So now, whenever there is a choice of "hide/get involved" I always pick "get involved", even if it's got personal negative aspects. It's made for a very interesting game, when I don't rewind to try the other path. I just go "Nope, she's going to intervene, no more wall sitting." and just run with it.

I find some bits of the game a little annoying, like how they only let you rewind your choices sometimes, but not all, and how some of the characters are very cliche. But for the most part, it feels like a game that was done with heart, and a genuine attempt to tell a story of coming of age with a supernatural twist. I recall some bits pinging memories of my time in highschool/college, when I saw echoes of friends I knew in some of the characters. It's not a perfect game by any stretch, but it's got more feeling and love in it's creation than I think a lot of other, bigger titles do.
 

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I was constantly thinking the same thing, it would be an interesting way of doing it. Especially if they made you go back once more to correct stuff :) Don't mess with time bitches!

Another theory I was thinking of was:

Chloe might have superpowers as well, as both of them drew eachother as superheroïnes. However, she expresses her desire to destroy Arcadia because it has taken everything away from her. So perhaps she might trigger the cataclysmic event in some way.

We'll see, it'll be interesting to find out :)
 

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I've watched parts of this on boobtube and am a bit torn between buying it.
It looks kind of interesting, what are peoples opinion of the rewind mechanic?
does it work or does it take the point out of having to make decisions when you can just rewind the option?
 

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I've watched parts of this on boobtube and am a bit torn between buying it.
It looks kind of interesting, what are peoples opinion of the rewind mechanic?

does it work or does it take the point out of having to make decisions when you can just rewind the option?
Rewind mechanic feels like it is in a tutorial state for the first chapter. Its uses are very basic.

On a meta level, it is kind of interesting to have save-scumming baked into the game's universe.
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
carlsberg export said:
I've watched parts of this on boobtube and am a bit torn between buying it.
It looks kind of interesting, what are peoples opinion of the rewind mechanic?

does it work or does it take the point out of having to make decisions when you can just rewind the option?
Rewind mechanic feels like it is in a tutorial state for the first chapter. Its uses are very basic.

On a meta level, it is kind of interesting to have save-scumming baked into the game's universe.
Honestly it reminds me of Prince of Persia: Sands of Time. You can only go back so far, so some choices will have a final outcome. It does definitely feel like it's mostly tutorial, but she's also learning about her powers, so it makes sense to have her first uses of the power be small things.

I find the mechanic enjoyable, with a few annoyances, like how you can only rewind when the game lets you. There are certain spots where you can't rewind time, and it's not explained why you can't, you just can't.
 

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ninja666 said:
The game seems promising, but what I don't get is why literally everybody must imitate Telltale's shitty business model and release the game in pieces, so you have to pay outrageous prices to be able to play the whole thing. Either way, I think I'll play it in a year or five when they decide it's time to stop milking money from the customers and release the last "episode".
Outrageous Prices? The average AAA game releases for $50-$60. That does not even include the DLC and Collector's Edition items. It used to be average for them clock in 8 hours for singleplayer campaign. Now that's only if you are lucky.

Movie tickets in my city cost $12.29 for General Admission non-matinees. That's the standard showing that doesn't include 3D, Cinemark XD, or IMAX. They are redeemed only once, are non-interactive and have an average runtime of 110 minutes.

Telltale and DONTNOD charge $4.99 for each episode. That's less than I pay for lunch each day.

You can get the entire season made of "Life is Strange" made up of 5 episodes for $19.99.

Telltale games average at least 3 hours of gameplay. Likely more if you are lucky. I spent over four hours on the first episode of Life is Strange, and that's only my first playthrough. I still missed out on a lot of things, and didn't try to branch the other choices. This Streamer did a Lets Play that's close to five hours. [http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGxCL8JAojAPWAuyFNL0bnAJWyDi42T6d]
 

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The time rewinding mechanic is an interesting one, if a tad repetitive. Though it allows redoing your choices and fixing mistakes, that's almost everything it is used for. I liked the few puzzles where I had to use the rewind, but would've wanted them to be a tad more challenging. Perhaps now, after the introductions, players can be given something a tad more complicated to solve?

One BIG improvement I'd like to see made though is the dialogue. You don't need to inject teenage slang into it to make it believable. Believe me, namedropping Kickstarter out of nowhere doesn't enhance the immersion, it breaks it. Just write everyone as characters, persons, and not teens.
My main problem with the rewinds was that it kept almost nagging you to use it after every choice. Which in turn kind of made an organic decision seem like the "wrong" way to play it, with Max basically acting as the dev yelling in your ear to use the feature. Most of the "puzzles" felt similarly forced. Once rewound, it was generally incredibly obvious, and before the rewind, the object you needed to interact with to avoid the problem wasn't even active, meaning you could never actually solve them before failing and rewinding.

I'd agree that a lot of the internet-hip references kind of seem on overload, and many will probably date the game. Its also got some of the Japan's Vision of America weirdness going on in terms of culture stereotyping. One major instance being that its very unclear what the school is even supposed to be (the characters are high school age, the school seems to be a private college with dorms and the like, etc)
 

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My favorite game of the year so far and i do believe im the only person on the planet who enjoys episodic game releases. to me it feels like tuning in to catch a favorite tv show