Life's not fair

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Starp

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Philosophy time kids!

Personally, I haven't, but undoubtedly SOMEONE on these forums would have been confronted by a completely unfair situation caused by someone (Unfair Bastard), possibly said "That's not fair!", only to be struck back with the seemingly bulletproof counterpoint of "Life isn't fair.". I've been considering this for a while now, and I think I've found a way around it. Tell me what you think.

Life isn't fair. We see that everywhere- babies are born retarded, some people are born into upper-class families, some are born into poverty. Who's fault is that? Nobody's, that's how we know life just isn't fair. Consider this; if someone was blinded by a small stone chipped up from a tyre of a passing car, who's to blame? The driver for paying attention to the car in front instead of a little stone at the side of the road, or the victim for not seeing it coming and getting out the way?
Suppose the victim wants some justice. Fair enough, a wrong has been done that ought to be righted, surely. From whom is this justice extracted then? The driver did nothing wrong, so murder is ruled out. Culpable homicide (manslaughter)? It may seem avoidable now, with the benefit of hindsight, but at the time, it was entirely unavoidable, even if libertarianism is true. The driver has done absolutely nothing wrong, so it would be unreasonable to punish them; there would be no point, as there is no-one to blame, with the possible exception of God. So it's true, life really isn't fair, in the same way the victim could have been blinded at birth. I'm not trying to prove life is fair, I'm going to give you a perfectly reasonable comeback instead.
There are two routes one could take when dealing with U.B.. First, and most simple is to punch them in the face. After all, 'life isn't fair', there was nothing you could do about it in the same way there was 'nothing' U.B. could do about their unfairness. I can't in good conscience recommend that, as it's pretty shallow, unless you're happy with stooping to their level, in which case, go for it. Second, punch them in the face. Then kick them, steal their money, rape them... do literally whatever you want to them. After all, they're not human, they're just a H.S.O..
Babies, for the first thirty or so days after they're born are completely unaware. They have no spatial awareness, emotion, or any meaningful reasoning ability. That screaming little bundle of adorableness is not a human, it is a Human-Shaped Object. In the same way Just Dance appears to be a dancing sim, it's really not, a tumble drier could play it (read the reviews), it is just a Game-Shaped Object. So the term 'life isn't fair' applies to babies under a month old, as they are not rational autonomous agents, basically soft robots. People have the ability to think, that's what makes us better than the likes of weeks-old babies and the Sphex wasp. If a person is willing to degrade themselves to that level, they simply do not deserve their humanity. Moreover, they do not even desire it, they are afraid of the consequences, as with great power comes with responsibility*, the great power in this case being the libertarian/determinist definition of free will. And if they have no humanity, who's going to care if they are tortured? Not them anyway.
Alternatively, just calmly explain that to them, whatever.

*Oh God, I'm sorry, it's the best I could come up with.

Anyway, sorry for the TL;DR. I'd love to hear counterarguments if anyone's got any, or if anyone just wants to flex their philosophy muscle, or label me mentally unstable.
 

khaimera

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I'll label you. What about the idea that babies that are born retarded are paying for sins made in past lives. Thats karma.
 

Macgyvercas

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Of course life isn't fair. That's where I got my catchphrase, "Fair Enough". Life can never be fair, only fair enough.
 

Starp

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Well if karma really is true then my entire argument is nullified, everyone gets what they deserve. This was written for a universe without karma.
 

Nigh Invulnerable

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"Life isn't fair" is just a way of saying "Some things are beyond our control. Deal with it". At least that's the way I see it. Sometimes people are douchebags and get away with it. You learn to let those kinds of things not bother you or you freak out. I find there's not really much point in worrying about those types of things since I have no real control.

Relating to your post: You may want to think this out a little more and clarify your thinking, cause the first read through makes very little sense and doesn't really provide a counter argument for the "life isn't fair" statement.
 

LockeDown

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Life is chaotic, brutish, and short. It's cruel beyond reason only because the universe cares nothing for the menial trappings of our day-to-day. Of course it's not fair, and if it were, there are far too many of us with conflicting wants and needs for it to be fair to everyone.
 

SmartIdiot

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Life is an equal opportunities employer. At least the application form says that, but you know it isn't really. Likely it will throw you to the lions. If you do get through, however, you've got a whole heap of bullshit to put up with as it bides its time to completely stab you in the back.
 

Azure-Supernova

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I guess this depends on how you look at it, but I'd like to believe that some peolpe get what's coming to them, sometimes you have to go out of your way to get results but it pays off.

Then again, some people are complete assholes and have lived long, comfortable lives.
 

TheGreatCoolEnergy

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Life isn't fair, and neither is my post of TL;DR. But I'm sure you'll get over it.

By the way, you may want to look into spacing your paragraphs
 

Amberella

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Nope, life isn't fair. I know all about that. Still waiting for people to get whats coming to them. Hopefully it does eventually.
 

UnusualStranger

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It always entertains me when people say "Life isn't fair"

Actually, life IS fair. Yeah, I said it.

PEOPLE make life unfair. Life is absolutely fair, but people do things to make it harder for everyone else.

That is the comeback. Life is fair, people just suck.
 

MR T3D

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UnusualStranger said:
It always entertains me when people say "Life isn't fair"

Actually, life IS fair. Yeah, I said it.

PEOPLE make life unfair. Life is absolutely fair, but people do things to make it harder for everyone else.

That is the comeback. Life is fair, people just suck.
so it's fair that the goat get knocked of the cliff by the hawk..?
or that the wolf kills hundreds of smaller animals, mainly thee ones whom are NOT the fastest..?

like isn't fair, best you can do is be nice to others.
 

Mr Wednesday

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UnusualStranger said:
PEOPLE make life unfair. Life is absolutely fair, but people do things to make it harder for everyone else.
Hah, you really think this cold swirling universe of ours is fair?

Some children are born with conditions that ruin their lives. How have people done that??
 

UnusualStranger

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Mr Wednesday said:
Hah, you really think this cold swirling universe of ours is fair?

Some children are born with conditions that ruin their lives. How have people done that??
Yeah, I do think this cold swirling universe is fair.

You know what happened before all these amazing medical advances allowed us to save these poor ruined children? They died, and I'm willing to bet it was far better than living with a condition that makes each day a waking nightmare.

MR T3D said:
so it's fair that the goat get knocked of the cliff by the hawk..?
or that the wolf kills hundreds of smaller animals, mainly thee ones whom are NOT the fastest..?

like isn't fair, best you can do is be nice to others.
Unfortunately, yes, it is fair. In nature, if you are not fit to survive, you don't survive. That is as fair as you can get. Perhaps it does sound cruel, but there is an extreme fairness to it.

But of course, humans are not hunted by anything except other humans, so being nice is the best that we can do as people.
 

Iron Criterion

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British version of Karma = Good, hard working person: Made to feel guilty and isn't protected by the state. Evil, chavy type: Takes what they want, terrorises society and is rewarded/protected by the state.
 

CK76

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I wouldn't say it is not fair as that is a human construct, I'd say reality has always been indifferent to us.