Is there some arbitrary standard for Final Fantasy games that I am not aware of?Trishbot said:Sounds like Bravely Default is going to be the best Final Fantasy game this year.
Yes, and the standard died with FFX-2.KazeAizen said:Is there some arbitrary standard for Final Fantasy games that I am not aware of?Trishbot said:Sounds like Bravely Default is going to be the best Final Fantasy game this year.
Please show me this arbitrary and convoluted standard for Final Fantasy games. I'd really like to see a solid graph or chart that has a list of them with a base line for what qualifies and what doesn't. You show me that.james.sponge said:Yes, and the standard died with FFX-2.KazeAizen said:Is there some arbitrary standard for Final Fantasy games that I am not aware of?Trishbot said:Sounds like Bravely Default is going to be the best Final Fantasy game this year.
It's actually quite simple FF1-6 + FFT and FF9 qualify and the rest of them are below the standardKazeAizen said:Please show me this arbitrary and convoluted standard for Final Fantasy games. I'd really like to see a solid graph or chart that has a list of them with a base line for what qualifies and what doesn't. You show me that.james.sponge said:Yes, and the standard died with FFX-2.KazeAizen said:Is there some arbitrary standard for Final Fantasy games that I am not aware of?Trishbot said:Sounds like Bravely Default is going to be the best Final Fantasy game this year.
There is no "standard", but most fans of FF hate anything after X with a fury passion because the style in gameplay changed. I'm one of those haters. Anyone playing an old and then a new FF game will immediately notice the massive differences (apart from graphics quality).KazeAizen said:Please show me this arbitrary and convoluted standard for Final Fantasy games. I'd really like to see a solid graph or chart that has a list of them with a base line for what qualifies and what doesn't. You show me that.james.sponge said:Yes, and the standard died with FFX-2.KazeAizen said:Is there some arbitrary standard for Final Fantasy games that I am not aware of?Trishbot said:Sounds like Bravely Default is going to be the best Final Fantasy game this year.
What no 7? See though this proves my point. No real standard for what does and doesn't qualify. Ergo people need to give a rest already. Hell XIII-2 got so much hate and bile spewed at it and it didn't even deserve it.james.sponge said:It's actually quite simple FF1-6 + FFT and FF9 qualify and the rest of them are below the standardKazeAizen said:Please show me this arbitrary and convoluted standard for Final Fantasy games. I'd really like to see a solid graph or chart that has a list of them with a base line for what qualifies and what doesn't. You show me that.james.sponge said:Yes, and the standard died with FFX-2.KazeAizen said:Is there some arbitrary standard for Final Fantasy games that I am not aware of?Trishbot said:Sounds like Bravely Default is going to be the best Final Fantasy game this year.
Careful now, your bias is showing.james.sponge said:Yes, and the standard died with FFX-2.
That is most definitely not how roman numerals work....in contrast to previous games like X-III 2 featuring elements like Valhalla...
So us new fans for jumping on after 9 and calling anything after that good get attacked and shown "the error of our ways." and why we shouldn't like X and beyond? You say there is no standard and you are right but the way people talk about it you sure could've fooled me into thinking there was some mystical chart or graph or score card that said otherwise.Arkhangelsk said:There is no "standard", but most fans of FF hate anything after X with a fury passion because the style in gameplay changed. I'm one of those haters. Anyone playing an old and then a new FF game will immediately notice the massive differences (apart from graphics quality).KazeAizen said:Please show me this arbitrary and convoluted standard for Final Fantasy games. I'd really like to see a solid graph or chart that has a list of them with a base line for what qualifies and what doesn't. You show me that.james.sponge said:Yes, and the standard died with FFX-2.KazeAizen said:Is there some arbitrary standard for Final Fantasy games that I am not aware of?Trishbot said:Sounds like Bravely Default is going to be the best Final Fantasy game this year.
I wouldn't say it was the gameplay, more like atmosphere shifted, I would argue FFX was a step in right direction, as far as battle/summon systems are concerned, they dropped the ball with sphere grid, characters, heavy emphasis on fighting rather than exploration (something FF9 did quite well) and shallow uninspired world.Arkhangelsk said:There is no "standard", but most fans of FF hate anything after X with a fury passion because the style in gameplay changed. I'm one of those haters. Anyone playing an old and then a new FF game will immediately notice the massive differences (apart from graphics quality).KazeAizen said:Please show me this arbitrary and convoluted standard for Final Fantasy games. I'd really like to see a solid graph or chart that has a list of them with a base line for what qualifies and what doesn't. You show me that.james.sponge said:Yes, and the standard died with FFX-2.KazeAizen said:Is there some arbitrary standard for Final Fantasy games that I am not aware of?Trishbot said:Sounds like Bravely Default is going to be the best Final Fantasy game this year.
I was joking actually. Even though I dislike new entries, I can understand some people may find them appealing. And yes FF7 is badKazeAizen said:What no 7? See though this proves my point. No real standard for what does and doesn't qualify. Ergo people need to give a rest already. Hell XIII-2 got so much hate and bile spewed at it and it didn't even deserve it.james.sponge said:It's actually quite simple FF1-6 + FFT and FF9 qualify and the rest of them are below the standardKazeAizen said:Please show me this arbitrary and convoluted standard for Final Fantasy games. I'd really like to see a solid graph or chart that has a list of them with a base line for what qualifies and what doesn't. You show me that.james.sponge said:Yes, and the standard died with FFX-2.KazeAizen said:Is there some arbitrary standard for Final Fantasy games that I am not aware of?Trishbot said:Sounds like Bravely Default is going to be the best Final Fantasy game this year.
I never said that, you can like whatever you want. It's just that we who preferred the old Final Fantasy games are perfectly justified in hating the newer generation of FF, given the abandoning of the old style that for us worked perfectly fine.KazeAizen said:So us new fans for jumping on after 9 and calling anything after that good get attacked and shown "the error of our ways." and why we shouldn't like X and beyond? You say there is no standard and you are right but the way people talk about it you sure could've fooled me into thinking there was some mystical chart or graph or score card that said otherwise.Arkhangelsk said:There is no "standard", but most fans of FF hate anything after X with a fury passion because the style in gameplay changed. I'm one of those haters. Anyone playing an old and then a new FF game will immediately notice the massive differences (apart from graphics quality).KazeAizen said:Please show me this arbitrary and convoluted standard for Final Fantasy games. I'd really like to see a solid graph or chart that has a list of them with a base line for what qualifies and what doesn't. You show me that.james.sponge said:Yes, and the standard died with FFX-2.KazeAizen said:Is there some arbitrary standard for Final Fantasy games that I am not aware of?Trishbot said:Sounds like Bravely Default is going to be the best Final Fantasy game this year.
Well, I personally found the change from diverse open world to constrained linear world to be a bit too much for me, and their recent experimentation with the battle system hasn't worked out for the best in my opinion. FFX was really good though, but anything after that I haven't really liked.james.sponge said:I wouldn't say it was the gameplay, more like atmosphere shifted, I would argue FFX was a step in right direction, as far as battle/summon systems are concerned, they dropped the ball with sphere grid, characters, heavy emphasis on fighting rather than exploration (something FF9 did quite well) and shallow uninspired world.Arkhangelsk said:There is no "standard", but most fans of FF hate anything after X with a fury passion because the style in gameplay changed. I'm one of those haters. Anyone playing an old and then a new FF game will immediately notice the massive differences (apart from graphics quality).KazeAizen said:Please show me this arbitrary and convoluted standard for Final Fantasy games. I'd really like to see a solid graph or chart that has a list of them with a base line for what qualifies and what doesn't. You show me that.james.sponge said:Yes, and the standard died with FFX-2.KazeAizen said:Is there some arbitrary standard for Final Fantasy games that I am not aware of?Trishbot said:Sounds like Bravely Default is going to be the best Final Fantasy game this year.
Thanks, *grumbles something about this is what happens when you mix Roman numerals, hyphens and numbers while fixing it*.Dead Raen said:Thanks for the review, Slycne. Quick note, however:
That is most definitely not how roman numerals work....in contrast to previous games like X-III 2 featuring elements like Valhalla...
Hey, I don't fault you for one second. The numbering of this particular set is nothing short of tedious. XIII, XIII-2, Lightning Returns: XIII... watSlycne said:Thanks, *grumbles something about this is what happens when you mix Roman numerals, hyphens and numbers while fixing it*.
Yeah it's as bad as 6 or any other entry.james.sponge said:I was joking actually. Even though I dislike new entries, I can understand some people may find them appealing. And yes FF7 is bad