Liking FPS's while hating Fallout 3
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I was playing Fallout 3 just now. I wouldn't say the controls(PC) are clunky, more deliberate, it takes a second to switch guns, as opposed to CoD since you mentioned it OP, where gun switching is almost instant. I like games where you don't insta switch items, makes you have to think ahead what you are going to do. Case in point, Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising and ARMA II.
As an FPS, Fallout 3 sucked a fat one. But, as a game, Fallout 3 was loads of endless fun. For me, Fallout has always been able to make me look past its flaws by presenting me with the beautiful aesthetic of a 50's society bombed back into the Dark Ages.
However, Bethesda has never really handled its action-element that well (although they are learning and growing in that regard) and it shows in how stiff the combat in Fallout 3 was. Sure, it wasn't terrible or completely unintuitive but, at the same time, there are much better shooters than Fallout 3.
All of this being said, if you were playing Fallout 3 solely because you like shooters then I assert that you were the unwitting victim of misleading advertising or poor pre-purchase product research.
However, Bethesda has never really handled its action-element that well (although they are learning and growing in that regard) and it shows in how stiff the combat in Fallout 3 was. Sure, it wasn't terrible or completely unintuitive but, at the same time, there are much better shooters than Fallout 3.
All of this being said, if you were playing Fallout 3 solely because you like shooters then I assert that you were the unwitting victim of misleading advertising or poor pre-purchase product research.
I've been playing Fallout 3 a lot lately, and calling it a FPS is, in my opinion, a bit of a fallacy. It had FPS elements, yes, but it's not anything like what I would imagine most people would expect in an FPS. It actually threw me off plenty of times. Headshotting something in an FPS almost always results in a kill, which is far from the case in Fallout. Fallout, despite the default first person perspective, has never really been a shooter of any sort. It's just not built that way, and I'm glad it isn't. Though I will say that compared to oblivion, fallout at least does give you more damage if you hit in certain areas, such as the head. Still, I'd say that's a cursory nod at best. Even if I am getting chased by a super mutant behemoth, I'd think that if I plug him in the face with a shotgun it should take off more than like 2 dashes of his health. I imagine that's why some fps fans would hate fallout 3.
For the record, I do and always have thought that Fallout 3 was a brilliantly done game. Easily one of my favorites ever.
For the record, I do and always have thought that Fallout 3 was a brilliantly done game. Easily one of my favorites ever.
I like FPSs and I hate Fallout 3.
Though that has to do with Fallout 3 being to Fallout 2 what Renegade 3 on the ZX Spectrum was to Renegade 2.
Though that has to do with Fallout 3 being to Fallout 2 what Renegade 3 on the ZX Spectrum was to Renegade 2.
I have the opposite opinion. I hate most FPS's but I enjoyed Fallout 3 a lot more than I expected to. And I only paid 12$ (plus tax) for it. The only recent FPS I played was Black Ops which I only liked because I was playing with a friend and got it for free.
...What does that even mean?UltraHammer said:
I honestly can't get my head round that. Stiff? Nintendo game? Fake - in comparison to what?
Can someone explain this to me?
"Boys boys boys... The mechanics of any FPS are comparable to one anothers. I have an apple and you have an orange. The only difference is that I don't have to peel anything."
Okay well if your talking about Fallout 3, I would have to agree with them. Fallout 3 was a really bad FPS. Now if they were refering to Fallout New Vegas I would punch them across the face. New Vegas updated the FPS concept in Fallout (in my opinion) by a whole punch actually making it feel like a shooter.
I don't hate fallout or anything like that but that game (fallout new vegas) does annoy me sometimes. The fps element just doesn't feel as polished as it could be. They spend more time on the rpg aspect of it without balancing them both out.
Shooting in Fallout 3 was pretty bad to be honest. It was alright in New Vegas, but nothing spectacular.
That's not why you play Fallout 3 though, you play it for the exploration and atmosphere.
That's not why you play Fallout 3 though, you play it for the exploration and atmosphere.
Different people have different taste, but that quote about it being so fake makes me scratch my head.
I also loved Fallout 3 while hating Oblivion because of the combat system in the latter where it takes 5 minutes on a good day to kill one enemy.
I also loved Fallout 3 while hating Oblivion because of the combat system in the latter where it takes 5 minutes on a good day to kill one enemy.
Well, if they put all their stats into strength and not agility, yeah they would be moving around pretty slowly. And as people have said, even though it has shooting in it, its FPS elements aren't exactly its strongest suit.
Some games aren't for everyone. We mayknow think they're awesome, but if someone doesn't like them, well that's their business.
Some games aren't for everyone. We may
Fallout 3 isn't much of a first person shooter ... the only time the gunplay feels really awesome is sniping at range.
it comes down to the fact that FPS's like CoD rely heavily of reflex based skill with the sticks. Whereas Fallout, even though it is an FPS is more focussed on micro management and the dice rolls involved with the VATS system. Although i have still been able to enjoy blasting the head off a bandit without the use of VATs. The two genres of FPS are hardly comparable.
In the end people will also have their own opinions. Thats just something we have to deal with
In the end people will also have their own opinions. Thats just something we have to deal with
