Linkin Park - Why the Hate?

[instantbenz]

I was okay until JayZ ... then i was okay until their last album which went something like BE DEPRESSED~! ... and then I was done

 

[Googooguru]

Linkin park is the king of Nu metal and nu metal is the Justin Bieber of Metal..

I am grateful to Lamb of God, Mastadon , Baroness and Otep and New Wave metal in general for shining a glaring light on just how lame Linkin park truly was... least we ever forget

 

[Krion_Vark]

the times where its now just filled with LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOOOORRRRQGCJKHCGQHGXCQCQDK.

That is Drowning Pool just FYI not Linkin Park. And also another note is that Drowning Pool has a new lead singer who CANNOT sing that song at all.

And i don't really hate Linkin Park I do actually like a lot of their songs but not the ones that are released as singles.

 

[Kenbo Slice]

the times where its now just filled with LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOOOORRRRQGCJKHCGQHGXCQCQDK.

That is Drowning Pool just FYI not Linkin Park. And also another note is that Drowning Pool has a new lead singer who CANNOT sing that song at all.

And i don't really hate Linkin Park I do actually like a lot of their songs but not the ones that are released as singles.

No new frontman Drowning Pool finds can replace Dave Williams.

 

[Nazulu]

*snip*

It's because they're shit.
U2 is popular as well, it doesn't make them any good.

Funny video, but I disagree.

It's all about writing a good melody and some of U2's are brilliant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQZLPV6xcHI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoIkUDliN2c

 

[II2]

I preferred them when they followed the industrial style/formula. Once they got to minutes to midnight it sounded like they went wimpy pop.

My music taste mostly consists of 1980's industrial like Skinny Puppy and Nine Inch Nails, so the rhythm mix styles they did were slightly appealing for early albums.

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I don't follow.

 

[BX3]

I actually did kinda feel this way. I mean, I didn't start hating them because of their fanbase or something like that. I just genuinely started getting kinda bored with their music. As I grew older, some of the past work started running together and became less appealing. There are still some classics by them I like, but their work just got, well, boring. Simple as that.

It's weird though, their newest album kinda rekindled my fandom of them a little, cuz with their change of style, I find them interesting again. Still not the perfect band, but I'm not ashamed to say it's one of my favorite albums.

Still, even if I do end up getting bored with them again, they have my respect. The guys love music, a few of the members are actually really talented, and if it weren't for them, I don't think I'd have gotten into rock and later attained a higher appreciation of music.

I was okay until JayZ ... then i was okay until their last album which went something like BE DEPRESSED~! ... and then I was done

Heh, we weren't listening to the same album. Suns is probably their most positive work. Iredecent is sickeningly sweet relative to their other stuff.

 

[SilentCom]

I don't hate Linkin Park, I still like some of their older stuff although I'm not a fan of their newer stuff. The new stuff aren't the same style as the older stuff.

 

[zehydra]

I used to stay away from programming and other things that would've been considered Nerdy because "Nerdy" is a negative connotation. I stayed away from things the same way you stayed away from Linkin Park.

Then I said fuck it and went with what made me happy.

OP, don't care if other people will look down on you for liking something, if they do, then there's something wrong with them, not you.

 

[Stuberfinn88]

the times where its now just filled with LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOOOORRRRQGCJKHCGQHGXCQCQDK.

That is Drowning Pool just FYI not Linkin Park. And also another note is that Drowning Pool has a new lead singer who CANNOT sing that song at all.

And i don't really hate Linkin Park I do actually like a lot of their songs but not the ones that are released as singles.

yeah I know, What I ment was that most videos used to have just Linkin Park, but videos now are still going through the Bodies- Drowning Pool phase( felt it was easier to just say the obvious lyrics to the song) and i know that the old singer died, and the new singer was from SOiL.

 

[Korten12]

Their is a couple of songs I like from them. Like Catalyst mainly because, I think it sounds cool and it made this awesome AMV for Halo: Reach:

 

[Astoria]

For me personally, it's that I feel... well, guilty by association. We all know the stereotypical LP fan, right? Little emo kid with his black hair in his eyes, writing his crappy faux-introspective poetry and listening to Crawling on endless repeat. You're not that guy: You have a life, you dress like a normal person, you go out, you most certainly don't listen to Linkin Park. When it comes down to it, I stopped listening because I didn't want to be lumped in with those sad little probably-hypothetical bastards. It got to the point where I would frown upon anyone who even mentioned the name in a positive light, even my friends and family.

I think it's wrong to dislike a band because of it's fans, you should judge them on their music not who listens to them. I see it happen a lot and it's not fair on the band. I also think it's stupid to stop liking a band because suddenly a lot of other people like them. People are weird.

 

[D_987]

I guess the fact the band changes their sound on pretty much every major album is the reason "for the hate", it's very difficult to accept an entirely new sound every time; primarily because you get used to the previous style - and if your taste hasn't diverted into their new style you're not going to enjoy the music. That much is obvious from this thread alone, just look at the vast majority discussing their first two releases, despite Reanimation appearing nearly a decade or so ago. I really disliked 1000 suns when it was first released, but after listening it it again, rather recently in fact, I have to say it's actually a damn good album.

Most of the stuff on there is very interesting, from both a musical and lyrical standpoint; in terms of sound it's very experimental - I defiantly couldn't name another already mainstream band that's attempted to go this rout in terms of their sound, and you have to respect them for it.

 

[Silent Biohazard Solid]

What people don't understand, I think, is that this isn't just Nu Metal. It's pop music. Pop isn't a genre. It's a watered down, catchy version of other genres.
People can say Beyonce' is a Pop singer, but her influence comes from R&B. It's not true R&B. It's a watered down, pop-version of R&B. And this can apply to any genre.
That's the case with Nickelback. They're a Rock band, but it's pop music. Just the same, Linkin Park is Nu Metal, but it's still pop music. Listen to Korn and listen to Linkin Park and how different the two sound, even though, technically, they're both Nu Metal. Why? Because Linkin Park is the "Pop" version of Nu Metal.

And while Pop might work for genres like Dance music, or heck, even the same R&B. Generally, when it comes to a Rock band (any subgenre of rock, including Metal and all of its subgenres) are never improved by turning 'pop'.

Of course, the other part of the reason I don't like them is that there are so many extremely nerdy people I know, (and don't get me wrong. I don't mean nerds. I mean like, the kinds of people that nerds call nerds) like Linkin Park, and try to validate themselves as being 'cool' because they listen to Nu Metal. And the thing is, these people would never listen to a band like Korn, or Adema, or Static-X. So it's not Linkin Park themselves that I dislike, it's the kind of fanbase they attract.

 

[TsharpInfinity]

Personally, I absolutely loved A Thousand Suns. It was a spectacular progressive rock album with deep, thought provoking themes of humankind's evolution and (possible) self-destruction, inevitable death and the concept of rebirth. Sure, it pales in comparison to other, better progressive rock albums like Dark Side of the Moon, but LP did one hell of a job in giving people who were willing to listen (rather than nitpick) an epic experience.

As for their earlier work, I don't care for it. Give me any one of the tracks off of Thousand Suns over "CRAAAAAWLLLINNNNGGG IIIIIIIIIIIN MY SKIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNALGDSLADSGHDSAL"

 

[Ambi]

For me it's mainly that the lyrics are awful. Chester Bennington much more so, it has to be said.

But yeah, I actually kinda like the first album, in its catchy, cheesy way.

[sub]And I still know all the words from when I was 14...[/sub]

This, as well as what the OP said.

"cause I'm one step closer to the edge, AND I'M ABOUT TO BREAK

SHUT UUP
WHEN I'M TALKING TO YOU
SHUT UUP
SHUT UUP"

They're angsty, whiny and irritating. I thought In The End was so profound when I was a kid, and it was an excuse to not try in school because everything was pointless in the end and we're all going to die. Why did they have to make their songs so catchy? <_<

 

[badgersprite]

Because a lot of people happen to think that they're not very good?

Like, I don't mean to be offensive, but that whole 'nu metal' craze that included Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit is kind of like the Vanilla Ice of the late 90s early 00s. They were hugely popular for a while, but society can't explain why...

 

[theultimateend]

to me, Linkin Park is the Nickelback of nu metal. not untalented, per se, just horribly, horribly overrated. also, i detest any music where an otherwise pretty song is ruined by screaming. just my $.02

Nickleback is considered rated? Let alone over rated?

The lead singer of Linkin Park is incredibly consistent with his screaming. Few folks can hold that sort sound without cracking or squealing at some point.

I haven't listened to them in ages but he is very talented. The songs where he legitimately sings are fairly haunting.

What people don't understand, I think, is that this isn't just Nu Metal. It's pop music. Pop isn't a genre. It's a watered down, catchy version of other genres.
People can say Beyonce' is a Pop singer, but her influence comes from R&B. It's not true R&B. It's a watered down, pop-version of R&B. And this can apply to any genre.
That's the case with Nickelback. They're a Rock band, but it's pop music. Just the same, Linkin Park is Nu Metal, but it's still pop music. Listen to Korn and listen to Linkin Park and how different the two sound, even though, technically, they're both Nu Metal. Why? Because Linkin Park is the "Pop" version of Nu Metal.

And while Pop might work for genres like Dance music, or heck, even the same R&B. Generally, when it comes to a Rock band (any subgenre of rock, including Metal and all of its subgenres) are never improved by turning 'pop'.

Of course, the other part of the reason I don't like them is that there are so many extremely nerdy people I know, (and don't get me wrong. I don't mean nerds. I mean like, the kinds of people that nerds call nerds) like Linkin Park, and try to validate themselves as being 'cool' because they listen to Nu Metal. And the thing is, these people would never listen to a band like Korn, or Adema, or Static-X. So it's not Linkin Park themselves that I dislike, it's the kind of fanbase they attract.

Your point is much stronger if you make mention of the fact that Pop is short for "Popular".

In order for something to be popular on a global scale (or even national) it needs to be watered down in some manner. Because people are fairly unique so you want to hit those things that are most likely to be similar across large groups of people.

Otherwise it was a pleasant read .

*snip*

It's because they're shit.
U2 is popular as well, it doesn't make them any good.

Friend of mine trolled me by telling me Bono had died.

I get online happy as a clam and google it.

How can someone toy with my heart strings so much.

He's the only music singer that I genuinely dislike. Not because his music is bad, but because overall the interviews I've had the misfortune of hearing have always made me feel he's a waste of protein.

For those unaware (everyone) I worked at Circuit City. Playing U2 is apparently a rule there. Because it was on at every store I worked at and it was that same 1 hour special for 7-8 hours a day...5-6 days a week, for years...

 

[Dana22]

I quite liked them up to Meteora, then it just becaome sorta 'meh'.

 

[MisterGobbles]

Earlier stuff are classic nu metal albums, and yeah the lyrics are retarded. Minutes to Midnight just sucks, and A Thousand Suns is interesting, and has a couple of VERY good tracks on it.