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*Disclaimer: I am about to be extremely disparaging to the vast majority of cinema. I do not have anything against live-action adaptations or the people that enjoy them, I am just really bad at expressing myself clearly in non-offensive ways. Please don't be upset...

With the announcement of an attempted live-action adaptation of Beauty and the Beast by Disney, I just want to ask a question that has been bothering me of late: What is the big deal with people and live-action adaptations of things, specifically superhero movies. I want to be perfectly blunt, I am hugely biased. I find animation a superior medium in terms of flexibility, and I feel that this constant deferral to live-action prevents the exploration of the better portion of dramatic topics in mainstream animation. But I digress.

On topic, I'd be perfectly happy with a lusciously animated Iron Man, Batman, Spiderman etc, especially since they are so hugely dependent on CGI as to be not-quite-cartoons already, but I think I'm in a minority. Maybe I'm imagining things, but people seem to react much more strongly (and positively) to the announcement of a live-action version of their favorite thing.

Partly I want to examine it because I can't shake the feeling that at best it's a follow-the-leader thing: All the classic movies were live-action, therefore if our movies are to become classic they must also be live-action. And at worst it's a attempt at validation by way of showing people that the director's beloved thing can be just as financially/artistically viable as those of more established filmmakers. Put as offensively bluntly as possible "Look at me, look at me, I'm an adult, and here is my adult-style film. Isn't it perfectly adultlike, with all its real people, and real things that are really happening? Not at all like those childish cartoons we used to enjoy!" But as I said, I am biased (and extremely cynical), so I'd like other peoples' input on the matter.

Thanks in advance, I hope we all come out of this a little wiser for the trouble. To those that didn't read the disclaimer, I am sorry because I'm not trying to be offensive, I just don't know how to clarify my point inoffensively.
 

Xeromorph Blanc

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Well where I am from everyone thinks that once it is animated it is considered only for children. Once I was watching Evangelion on my laptop and someone asked why I was watching a children's show.
 

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Animation is for kids! Live-action is for EVERYONE!! /sarcasm

OT: Well, not everyone is cut out for voice acting, anyway... Also, seeing an actor pull off something you thought could only be done in 2D animation would look awesome to some people...

So, yeah... I think we have an understand as to what can and cannot transition into Live-Action from Animation and vise verse... But, tell that to Hollywood because, last time I checked, they stopped listening to me ages ago...
 

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shirkbot said:
*Disclaimer: I am about to be extremely disparaging to the vast majority of cinema. I do not have anything against live-action adaptations or the people that enjoy them, I am just really bad at expressing myself clearly in non-offensive ways. Please don't be upset...

With the announcement of an attempted live-action adaptation of Beauty and the Beast by Disney, I just want to ask a question that has been bothering me of late: What is the big deal with people and live-action adaptations of things, specifically superhero movies. I want to be perfectly blunt, I am hugely biased. I find animation a superior medium in terms of flexibility, and I feel that this constant deferral to live-action prevents the exploration of the better portion of dramatic topics in mainstream animation. But I digress.

On topic, I'd be perfectly happy with a lusciously animated Iron Man, Batman, Spiderman etc, especially since they are so hugely dependent on CGI as to be not-quite-cartoons already, but I think I'm in a minority. Maybe I'm imagining things, but people seem to react much more strongly (and positively) to the announcement of a live-action version of their favorite thing.

Partly I want to examine it because I can't shake the feeling that at best it's a follow-the-leader thing: All the classic movies were live-action, therefore if our movies are to become classic they must also be live-action. And at worst it's a attempt at validation by way of showing people that the director's beloved thing can be just as financially/artistically viable as those of more established filmmakers. Put as offensively bluntly as possible "Look at me, look at me, I'm an adult, and here is my adult-style film. Isn't it perfectly adultlike, with all its real people, and real things that are really happening? Not at all like those childish cartoons we used to enjoy!" But as I said, I am biased (and extremely cynical), so I'd like other peoples' input on the matter.

Thanks in advance, I hope we all come out of this a little wiser for the trouble. To those that didn't read the disclaimer, I am sorry because I'm not trying to be offensive, I just don't know how to clarify my point inoffensively.
Couldn't have said it any better myself.

Granted that I am a big anime fan, I do enjoy the animated super hero movies and animated TV series warner bros. used to put out. Batman: The animated series is still the greatest batman franchise done. I don't give a flying fuck about the live-action movies. Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamil made that show. Same goes for X-men and The amazing spiderman. Both of those shows were AMAZING!

I'll never forget the season finally to the phoenix saga coming on. I was in Job Corps at the time. I sat in the main room with no less than 50 people glued to one TV. I swear you could have heard a pin drop on the carpet in the room. It was that quiet.

I felt that these respective shows were probably a lot closer in their execution to the comic books. They just had that something that not even the live action movies could give.

I just flatly don't care for the live action movies at all. I don't understand what is everyone's fixation with seeing something with live actors. Given that I grew during a time when the TV channels were saturated with animated shows of all sorts. I severely miss those days. I sacrificed sleep for those shows; they were that good!

I still like live action, but animation has always had a bigger pull on me. In the past animation was taken a lot more seriously here outside of Disney. At least people were willing to try with animated medium. Now, nobody gives a fuck.

It always makes me laugh when people try to say that animation here in the US is so good when the only shows you can mention are a bunch of kids shows. Even the one or two shows that do manage to aimed at an adult audience still aren't really adult shows.

Anybody who calls Family Guy an adult show must be on some really good drugs. I'm also looking at you South Park. People here in the US seem to not understand what the word adult means.

Edit: I will give credit to one show in particular that I thought was really well done and seemed a lot more mature than it let on. Home Movies and I guess I can't forget Samurai Jack. That series was wrapped up in a piece of aweseomeness.