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Vohn_exel

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This is just a rant but I've been irriated lately by locked save files. Now, don't get me wrong, I understand that game developers can't abide cheating in the slightest, (made very clear by thier removal of any hint of cheat codes, cheat like rewards for beating the game, and of course the fact that gamesharks can't be used anymore.) And I understand that if someone were to get a completed game save, they wouldn't have to put any actual effort into playing that game.

However, there needs to be some kind of tradeoff. If my PS3 crashes right now, and I suddenly find myself with a wealth of cash to go out and buy another one, half of my games will have to be played all over again. Even my SFIV save, with all characters unlocked and my rediculously low score, would be screwed. This is, needless to say, very irritating.

I can understand not letting someone have another person's save, but not being able to keep our own saves? Especially since it's mostly because of Trophies and Achievements that this has been happening? Seriously, I can't keep my own hard work because someone else might get a "watch the first cutscene" mark on thier profile? To quote my favorite Bleach character,Urahara,"That isn't very nice."

There needs to be some kind of way for a person to identify themselves as the actual person that created that save. Perhaps it can be linked with your online profile, so that if you sign in to the internet, the saves recognize you as the person that made that save file, and you can keep playing. Or, dare I say it, we reintroduce memory cards? They could probably code a special USB stick that would allow only the game data to transfer, and then that stick could load onto another PS3 without any problems. Sure, people could use these "memory cards" to give people access to thier own saves, but gee, we haven't been doing that sine the ps1 era, have we?

It probably wouldn't bother me on a game I've completely beaten, but on those that I never finished, I'd be really irritated if I lost the save I had. Heck, my save on Infamous has the story completed, with no sidequests done so I can go back and have fun whenever I want. That's something I definately would be irritated at losing and would hate to have to do again, at least a little bit. Anyway...er..rant over. I just wanted to get that out of my system.
 

ethaninja

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If I've finished a game I wouldn't care (unless you can do stuff afterwards). I take it PS3's don't have memory cards like they had in the ps2?
 

Danny Ocean

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Vohn_exel said:
However, there needs to be some kind of tradeoff. If my PS3 crashes right now, and I suddenly find myself with a wealth of cash to go out and buy another one, half of my games will have to be played all over again.
Can't you just transfer the hard drive?
 

Vohn_exel

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Danny Ocean said:
Vohn_exel said:
However, there needs to be some kind of tradeoff. If my PS3 crashes right now, and I suddenly find myself with a wealth of cash to go out and buy another one, half of my games will have to be played all over again.
Can't you just transfer the hard drive?
Not legally, from what I understand. You'd void the warranty of your ps3. While I've got a ps3 60 gig and my warranty is long since gone, I wouldn't want to void one on a new ps3.
 

Danny Ocean

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Vohn_exel said:
Danny Ocean said:
Vohn_exel said:
However, there needs to be some kind of tradeoff. If my PS3 crashes right now, and I suddenly find myself with a wealth of cash to go out and buy another one, half of my games will have to be played all over again.
Can't you just transfer the hard drive?
Not legally, from what I understand. You'd void the warranty of your ps3. While I've got a ps3 60 gig and my warranty is long since gone, I wouldn't want to void one on a new ps3.
Seems odd to tout a feature and then punish you for using it. You sure it'd void the warranty?
 

Mozza444

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Danny Ocean said:
Vohn_exel said:
Danny Ocean said:
Vohn_exel said:
However, there needs to be some kind of tradeoff. If my PS3 crashes right now, and I suddenly find myself with a wealth of cash to go out and buy another one, half of my games will have to be played all over again.
Can't you just transfer the hard drive?
Not legally, from what I understand. You'd void the warranty of your ps3. While I've got a ps3 60 gig and my warranty is long since gone, I wouldn't want to void one on a new ps3.
Seems odd to tout a feature and then punish you for using it. You sure it'd void the warranty?
I'd have said the same as Danny Ocean here..
Plus they make it quite easy to change the hard-drive on the Ps3.. and i know there is a way to get your files from one hard-drive to another. I'm just not sure how.
 

Vohn_exel

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Danny Ocean said:
Seems odd to tout a feature and then punish you for using it. You sure it'd void the warranty?
Mozza444 said:
I'd have said the same as Danny Ocean here..
Plus they make it quite easy to change the hard-drive on the Ps3.. and i know there is a way to get your files from one hard-drive to another. I'm just not sure how.
Well I had once thought of getting a larger hardrive for mine but people on Gamefaqs told me it'd void the warranty...so I assumed that you weren't able to switch them either. From what I heard, there's a backup option but it still doesn't work for the locked save files. They'll only work on that one ps3, it seems. Even still, it's a very inconvenient thing, I mean I used to love taking over my saved games to show my friends what all you could do with a game, or just how far I'd got, ect. You can't really do that now, with the locked saves.
 

zhemis

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I'm pretty sure that replacing the hard drive by yourself (unless you have the creds to do it) would void the warranty. But, you can back up the drive. Don't know how transferring them back to another system works, but there should be a way.
 

Vohn_exel

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During the "ApocalyPS3" someone tried to do that, or mentioned doing that, but the saves would only work on the playstation that he (at the time) couldn't play on. So it seemns it only works on the one playstation if they're locked.
 

zhemis

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Something about the individual units code or something. But I'm pretty sure there's also a way to transfer that code to a new unit. Kind of like mac cloning, but this is all hypothetical from my standpoint.
 

DeleteThisPlease

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Maybe it's just me, but I don't really mind so much.

Then again, I'm a 360 gamer and my gamer-tag and game saves are all on a harddrive that can be removed from my Xbox 360, so if the box crashes I just remove the Harddrive and get a new box, use my harddrive and 'ta-da' my stuff is right there.

I'm not really sure what to say about the rest of this tho'.
 

squid5580

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Maybe it's just me, but I don't really mind so much.

Then again, I'm a 360 gamer and my gamer-tag and game saves are all on a harddrive that can be removed from my Xbox 360, so if the box crashes I just remove the Harddrive and get a new box, use my harddrive and 'ta-da' my stuff is right there.

I'm not really sure what to say about the rest of this tho'.
But if you bought a new HDD and wanted to transfer your saves you might run into an issue with a few games. Saint's Row is locked. And since the transfer cable has gone the way of the dinosaur (thanks cheaters) you would lose that save.

And your GS guy is a retard. You don't void jack when you replace a HDD. Hell there is a how to section in the manual. Unless he was talking about the 30 buck warranty the store offers.
 

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It's just another reason why 'achievements' or 'trophies' have ruined games. People should be playing these games and enjoying them and not replay them for the only reason of unlocking x achievement.

Now I am a hypocrite here as I do like the surprise of unlocking one.

But...

Gamer-score doesn't make your phallus grow, I don't understand why people act like it does.

It's all a quick botch job to add replay value to the game. Bullshit if you ask me.

But like I say I'm a hypocrite.
 

Acidwell

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You can change the hard-drive without voiding the warrenty, they give you an instruction booklet for it with the ps3.
Also i think it might be save locked to specific accounts so if you were to sign into the psn account you played on originally on a different ps3 it might work