lollipop Chainsaw is a terrible idea.

targren

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Smeggs said:
I could not give any less fucks about games being considered art as I do right now.

A game's first and only job is to be entertaining and keep me amused.

And games being overly pretentious sometimes gets in the way of that.

I'd rather gaming be considered a passtime for all eternity and get random gems of nonsensical violence with my artsy games than for every game to suddenly try to have some deep underlying meaning.
To be fair, there IS a valid reason that one may be concerned with the "games as art," or, more accurately, "games as expression" argument. This isn't the same as boring "art games" that really are pretty poor examples of both.

That reason is to give us a stick with which to beat back the Jack Thompsons, Hillary Clintons, and Mrs. Lovejoys of the world. It's a sign of the system failing that we even NEED to claim it, but that's the way it goes. That said, just because the OP has a stick up his pooper and doesn't see the "art" behind LC doesn't mean it's not there.

It's clearly a scathing, postmodern indictment of modern youth and its sense of powerlessness to fight a system that is stacked against them. With Zombies. ;)

Therumancer said:
Well, it can be done, it just takes better writers than they had for Onechanbara. If you look at say "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" that show went on for a good number of years and had a spin off ("Angel") and everything.
Not the best example, since the show actually took itself seriously. The 90s MOVIE, on the other hand, is exactly what you're looking for. High camp and self parody, and it's basically LC with vampires and an undead PeeWee Herman, instead of zombies.
 

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TaintedSaint said:
Gaming as a whole in recent years has tried to prove to the world that it is a valid artistic medium on par with film and should be protected under the first amendment I believe games like Lollipop Chainsaw do nothing but hurt the progress
that the medium has made of the years.
People in politics over the years have said that games are too violent and have too much sex in them and this game is blatantly throwing it in everyone face. Sure the game companies can say "its a mature game kids should not play it" But come on its a half naked chick in a schoolgirl uniform killing zombies basically every 14 year old boys wet dream.
I for one and not normally one to cry that games have too much sex and violence but this game is blatantly spiting in the face of all the hard work game developers have fought for for so long.
When was the last time you played a game that had all the cliches of an 80s teen movie but with Zombies? Maybe if you looked past the tits you could see that this IS progress. No matter what this is going to be a unique experience for gaming.

And if you believe that to make gaming art is to limit Suda51, then my only response is "fuck off".
 

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The more I see of this game the more interested I am. Originally I completely dismissed it but now I am actually quite hyped for it yeah it looks tacky and immature but to me the whole game comes across as satire and most importantly it looks fun.

I hope it meets my expectations.
 

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Jay444111 said:
It's being made by suda51, he gets a pass just because of that. Also the fact that it is going to be a cult classic sooner or later.
This. Because Suda51 is behind it it's bound to be a cult classic at the least, so while it looks meh it'll probably end up being good.
 

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TaintedSaint said:
Gaming as a whole in recent years has tried to prove to the world that it is a valid artistic medium on par with film and should be protected under the first amendment I believe games like Lollipop Chainsaw do nothing but hurt the progress
that the medium has made of the years.
People in politics over the years have said that games are too violent and have too much sex in them and this game is blatantly throwing it in everyone face. Sure the game companies can say "its a mature game kids should not play it" But come on its a half naked chick in a schoolgirl uniform killing zombies basically every 14 year old boys wet dream.
I for one and not normally one to cry that games have too much sex and violence but this game is blatantly spiting in the face of all the hard work game developers have fought for for so long.
Why does every single game have to be artsy now?
Just as any medium it can contain both art and schlock. One doesnt contradict the other.
 

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People need to stop caring so much about "moving our medium forward as art" and all that. Im all for it and it's a great thing to do but not every game needs to do it.
If you get artistic games like Journey then that's great, it shows games can be mature or artistic but sometimes people just want to have something simple.

Sometimes I want porn, sometimes I want gore and violence. This game is for those who want both at once :p
 

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MetalMagpie said:
dyre said:
I swear, if I ever become an eccentric billionaire, I'm going to fund a ridiculous, crazy video game that has over the top violence and portrays women as sex objects ever time I see someone spout some rhetoric about "setting us back as a medium" or "hurting our recognition as an art form."
And I will buy it. Because people used to (and often still do!) say the exact same things about trashy/racy/controversial books and films. The world adjusted to Mills & Boon. I'm sure it can cope with Lollipop Chainsaw.
Hell, I doubt many are old enough for this but people said the exact same thing about VHS tapes and how it was going to destroy film as an artistic medium. Bloody VHS for god's sake (Although the porn industry had a bit to do with that).