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cleverlymadeup said:
i think they should have better education rather than longer school years.
Quiet you, making sense is strictly verboten when discussing educational policy in the Western world...at least if politicians' attitudes toward it are anything to go by.
 

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The infamous SCAMola said:
DVSAurion said:
Having an almost continuous year would probably help you keep focused on subjects, a break too long might actually make you forget what you've learnt, making revision necessary to waste good learning time.
Isn't that a testament to the fact that nearly everything we learn in school is notionistic bullshit that we'll forget a couple of weeks after having finished school?
Not exactly. You might forget something that you think is useless at the time, but is later required to learn something truely useful.
 

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If you're in a room for 10 months out of the year listening to crap for six hours a day and it's not working, that's not an indication that "oh we're on the right track, we just need to do it for a couple weeks more and that would make things all better" it's an indication that YER DOIN' IT WRONG.

In other words, I am +1 for "actually teaching" instead of "keeping us in school longer."
 

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Wouldn't work where I live (California) considering the enormous budget problems we already have. The governor was even saying that teachers going on strike would be a good thing, because it meant they wouldn't be paid.
 

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cleverlymadeup said:
i think they should have better education rather than longer school years.
My head exploded.

Bu seriously, the quality of teaching and the students' receptiveness to said teaching is not going to be improved with longer school years. They should focus on better teachers who can educate with a compressed budget.
 

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letsnoobtehpwns said:
7 hours of torture for 180 days a year is enough.
This. That's why I got my GED. Now I dont have to take that shit everyday.

The infamous SCAMola said:
Fuck no. Y'all should adopt the Italian style of school years.

From the 15th of September to the 6th of June, from 8:20 in the morning to 12:20 in the afternoon with three months holidays in the summer.

Aah, Viva Life!
This too. I didn't think any school would be that lenient. I wish I went to school in Italy.
 

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cleverlymadeup said:
i think they should have better education rather than longer school years.
This. Quality over quantity. You can teach someone as long as you want, but if you're a horrible teacher they won't learn shit.
 

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Ollie596 said:
Maybe not a whole year, but I think they should extend it in the UK most schools get 6 weeks off in the summer. I always thought that is far too long.
6 weeks? Fuck! That's short! What hours do you have when you do have school?
 

El Poncho

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Making the school year longer probably would make a difference because this year my teachers struggled to get what we were learning done on time and went through the last topic quickly , which didn't help me at all, maybe extending the school year would take pressure off teachers so they can teach there subject better and can go over the topic to cover things that people have not understood.

FinalHeart95 said:
cleverlymadeup said:
i think they should have better education rather than longer school years.
This. Quality over quantity. You can teach someone as long as you want, but if you're a horrible teacher they won't learn shit.
But Quality can be increased with more time to teach.
 

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lok in some schools it mey be axcepted and hell maby even help scores but in my school where the scores are and i quot from the sol 59 under 100 1 600 and 5 inbetwene 101 and 599 and the school has and large amount of smoking and freaking meth addicts runnin around so doing that at my school would cause rioting
 

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XxNoMercyxX said:
bernthalbob616 said:
6 weeks summer holiday is what we have in the UK. How long is the holdiay for kids in the US?
It's like 10 weeks here. It's pretty awesome. And, I personally like the long time away. Less stress from my hard classes to deal with.
Are you joking?! That's freaking ages!
 

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I seriously doubt that extending the school year/day will improve test scores. If a student doesn't want to learn or hates school enough to shirk his or her homework, then how will making them go to school for a longer amount of time help them? Students that want to succeed will, and those that don't won't. If a student legitimately wants to learn but has trouble doing so, have a special program for them, but don't extend the day for everyone else.
 

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School for me starts at 7:17 am and ends around 2:15 pm. On that we only get 10 weeks of summer but we don't get many days off during the school year only for big holidays. Even now the school board in my county is talking about getting rid of weekends. Glad I'm a senior this year with half days.
 

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I think its fine. Where I live, atleast. Kids already stress out as it is. Extending the day, ok, but then you cannot extend the year. People will just perform worse, sleep in class more. It happened to my school when they extended school weeks into saturdays. So no, I don't think its a good idea at all.
 

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While it might raise test scores(notice i say MIGHT)it would surely put stress on both students and teachers/faculty.
 

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cleverlymadeup said:
i think they should have better education rather than longer school years.
This completely I was homeschooled each year for 2 hours a day from sept to april with may-august off and I turned out okay. I'm a Jr. in college with a decent GPA so no adverse effects there. so more time=/= better education.
 

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DVSAurion said:
I think school days should be 6-7 hours long and should start around 9 am. Here in Finland it's pretty much that way, except that school mostly begins at 8, which is a bad thing, because it makes everyone in the building unable to work for a few hours. Don't know how long your days are over where you live, but that's just my idea of an ideal school day.

The school year could be around the year, as long as there are a breaks for a couple every now and then. We have a ten week long summmer holiday and that is almost a bit too long. Having an almost continuous year would probably help you keep focused on subjects, a break too long might actually make you forget what you've learnt, making revision necessary to waste good learning time.
The word isn't might, the word you were looking for is does.
Studies have shown that after 3 weeks you start to forget information, meaning the first month of school is a reteaching of last years materials.

Some of the local schools do "year round" schooling, they take a month off in December instead of 2 weeks, and 4 weeks in summer instead of 10. They get the rest of their summer break spread out through the year and those schools seem to score better on tests than the rest of the district. Those schools are in the worst neighborhoods in town meaning that it isn't entirely funding that kills schools in poor neighborhoods, it's also teaching styles.

Parents in the US hate year round schools though, because they don't want to have to find people to watch their kids. Schools in the US really aren't much more than government funded daycare centers for kids over 6.

letsnoobtehpwns said:
7 hours of torture for 180 days a year is enough.
They still only attend 180 days a year, they just don't have a stupidly long break once a year.

I'm all for adding a day to the school week myself, but the teachers' unions are too powerful to allow it.

And for all you people freaking out over "better education" schools don't pay enough to teachers to get quality educators into schools. Maybe you should try passing a levy or two instead of complaining about taxes being too high and refuse to pay a few dollars a year to buy books written some time after world war two (my high school history book stopped in the middle of the Vietnam war when I attended in 1996.) Our best and brightest won't teach because you can make as much and in many cases more working in a mill without a degree and continuing educational requirements. Add in the fear that some day a kid might get mad at you for giving him an "F" on a test because he's a moron and go to the police saying you touched him in a dirty spot ruining your career (and it IS over if a kid says it, true or not.)
Most kids don't pay attention in school towards the end of the year because they're bored and the teachers for the most part don't care about anything other than getting standardized test scores up because that's the measure of teaching ability in the US now.

The entire educational system needs an overhaul in the US but parents and politicians won't pony up the cash. Hell, when cuts need to be made in the budgets, the FIRST thing cut is education when it should be the last.

And you need to stop worrying about stressing the kids out, they're gonna have to start working some day, and it's not like you get 10 weeks of vacation in any line of work I've ever heard of (teachers don't even really get it off, they have to go back to school and take some completely unrelated course because they have to have "well rounded" educations to keep their jobs.)
 

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Nimbus said:
Ollie596 said:
Maybe not a whole year, but I think they should extend it in the UK most schools get 6 weeks off in the summer. I always thought that is far too long.
6 weeks? Fuck! That's short! What hours do you have when you do have school?
Depending on schools but mine was 6 and a half hours a day ahh good old school days.