Looking at Depression Quest and Analyzing Male Privilege

[nuttshell]

Jonathan McIntosh...now where did I hear that name again?
Male gamer privilege? Aight.
And this Kate Reynolds...gives us all a lesson on internalized patriarchy? Aight.

So the Escapist has now secured a constant stream of insane bullshit for it's users' amusement?

Adam Saltsman I have no idea about the guy, his article seems...allright.
But Chris Franklin? Do you really need another Moviebob?

 

[whycantijustdeletemyaccount]

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[AuronFtw]

I really can't stand that term. "Male privilege" seems to imply that the mistreatment of women in game culture is the fault of ALL men - that it's my fault for being male or something. This whole "check your privileges" bullshit is a stupid argument and winds me up. The whole thing attacks any non-minority group as being privileged and therefore somehow either evil, or at best someone who's opinions aren't valid because "you're privileged".

I accept the points pointed out in the article (though the checklist was unnecessarily long - it was 8-9 points repeated over and over) but call it what it is. It's not "male privilege", it's "women being mistreated by sexist cunts".

More or less this. The majority of men aren't assholes - we don't mistreat women or insult them based on appearance or status or what have you. We judge, certainly, everyone does that, but the toxic "vocal" crowd on the internet is the tiny minority. It doesn't feel like it, since humans are built to remember pain better than anything else, but that's how it is. Men aren't disparaged based on the possession of a penis; they're disparaged based on literally everything the fuck else. Male developers have been called all kinds of names for decades now, some deserved and some not - but nobody gets all "omg check your privilege" about it because that's just how those twats are going to act, and it's a retarded stance to take. If anything, you're simply giving the internet douchebag crowd more fuel and an easier target.

If you, by some miracle, stop the guttercunts from using sexism in their arguments, they're just going to use any of the ten thousand other equally personal insults to "win arguments" on the internet. Hypersensitive people with no PR skills will still be offended, people who have no business being allowed to post on the net will still post toxic bullshit on the net, and nothing will change. That's why this male privilege bullshit is so tiresome. It's not fighting the good fight, it's just collecting ad revenue for various internet personas without actually solving anything.

It's pretty much the Kony 2012 of gaming arguments. And we're sick of it. Pack that shit in, Escapist. You used to have quality control. Don't be overrun by the tumblr internet justice idiots - they're delusional and will only hurt your site's credibility down the line.

 

[Saetha]

Okay, I've been trying to distance myself from this whole "Feminism and gaming" debate, because it really is just a toxic screaming match that only served to make me more miserable the deeper I delved into it - but that being said, that "review" of Beyond: Two Souls was absolutely awful. The reviewer sounds like some sort of tin-foil hat conspiracy theorist, talking about how the game "rehabilitated" her into "internalized patriarchal beliefs" and "roped her in against her will" - except, lady, you're the one who choose to play the game. Nothing was against your will there, unless David Cage broke into your house, tied you to a chair, and demanded you play this game he made. I realize she probably didn't willingly decide to identify with Jodie, but still, you can't blame the game for invoking emotion in you - because, you know, that's what stories are supposed to do. It sounds like she's blaming the game itself for the attitude she adopted - as though Beyond:TS blasted her with patriarchy-indoctrinating mind rays or something. Seriously, what the hell?

Not to mention it's staggeringly obvious that she didn't finish the game. Which is normally something I'd excuse, if the reviewer didn't like it, but with such a story-based game, and such story-based criticism in the review, not finishing the story seems like kind of a cheap shot. "I didn't see any strong women in the game!" - how would you know if you didn't finish it? "The game's racist because Dawkins is higher-ranking than Cole and presented as better than him in every way!" - Except he isn't, especially towards the end, which you'd know if you had finished the game . "The Navajo story line was racist because it's 'white man saves the day!'" - Except the entire mess was the result of white men in the first place, which you'd know if you finished the game, so really it's "White woman comes back and helps fixes the problem white guys caused in the first place."

I mean, honestly, I didn't even like Beyond:TS and I don't agree with that review. It's a mess of paranoia, feminist buzzwords, and incomplete pictures.

 

[Gerardo Vazquez]

Almost like it's a result of not having any bigger problems to deal with.

Says the man who plays video games in his spare time, then complains about them on the internet. Don't you have bigger problems to deal with?

 

[Shadefyre]

Almost like it's a result of not having any bigger problems to deal with.

Says the man who plays video games in his spare time, then complains about them on the internet. Don't you have bigger problems to deal with?

Which is the reason I don't pretend that I'm crusading against injustice in the world through an anonymous medium that doesn't require me to actually do anything but talk shit about other people online.

 

[PsychicTaco115]

On a side note, I really wish Taco was still with us to make a post about fedoras and misogyny.
[sub/]i still have no idea what in the world could have gotten him banned[/sub]

Did somebody say.... FEDORAS???

*cracks knuckles*

Spoiler: Longest Neckbeard Insult Evar

You Dew-drinking, Cheetos eating, hover-handing, Objectivist leaning, friendzone complaining, ?fundie? debating, katana stroking, thesauraus abusing, STEM jerking, waifu lusting, euphoria having, white knighting, MLP masturbating fedora tipping misogyny prodigy neckbearded ************

Does that do it?

OT: Interesting things and all but is it just a compilation of videos/analysis/critiques from the website? It just seemes like a lazy linking once a week...

But new content I haven't seen/heard of is new content so I'll take it :3

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

On a side note, I really wish Taco was still with us to make a post about fedoras and misogyny.
[sub/]i still have no idea what in the world could have gotten him banned[/sub]

Did somebody say.... FEDORAS???

*cracks knuckles*

Spoiler: Longest Neckbeard Insult Evar

You Dew-drinking, Cheetos eating, hover-handing, Objectivist leaning, friendzone complaining, ?fundie? debating, katana stroking, thesauraus abusing, STEM jerking, waifu lusting, euphoria having, white knighting, MLP masturbating fedora tipping misogyny prodigy neckbearded ************

Does that do it?

OH CHRIST, IT'S ALIVE
[img/]http://droppingpound.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/shock-horror-2628.jpg[/img]

[sub/]and yes, that was beautiful. positively heavenly, great and glorious lord[/sub]